BigBoreBiker
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posted May 25, 2006 01:11 AM
Hayabusa vs ZX-14:head 2 head...
http://www.zx14ninja.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=732
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TeamSpeed
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posted May 25, 2006 02:59 AM
Why come over here from the SuzHay board to post this? If you cannot read the article to fully understand it and you don't know much about the Jap versions of the bikes vs the US versions, then there isn't much to say? It's like being a kid trying to understand the newspaper without being able to read, but guessing at the stories by the pictures.
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wow! i'm very surprised. i cant wait to see what the other guys are saying on bikeland.org....i think i'll go over and listen in.....shhhh be very very quiet.
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zxlnt
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posted May 25, 2006 04:25 AM
I might as well get it over now
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zerMATT
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posted May 25, 2006 04:51 AM
I just *love* the bathroom scales... 
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smokinZX14
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posted May 25, 2006 04:59 AM
Funny the guys on the Busa site say that magazine sucks and is full of bull shit when it said something good about the zx14 ..But when it said something bad about the zx14 it's the gods honest truth !! ...
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shawnski
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posted May 25, 2006 06:18 AM
 Edited By: shawnski on 25 May 2006 07:19
someone please translate 
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zerMATT
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posted May 25, 2006 06:24 AM
Translation: This review apears to show the bikes pretty darn equal, with the 'busa edging the '14 out slightly in the 1/4 mile. But, as others have mentioned, the Japanese versions of the '14 are known to be slightly neutered, so who knows how much the test applies to US versions of both bikes...
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shawnski
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posted May 25, 2006 06:27 AM
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Translation: This review apears to show the bikes pretty darn equal, with the 'busa edging the '14 out slightly in the 1/4 mile. But, as others have mentioned, the Japanese versions of the '14 are known to be slightly neutered, so who knows how much the test applies to US versions of both bikes...
thanks zermatt that was quick 
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shawnski
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posted May 25, 2006 06:32 AM
by the way who gives a shit, i love the power, handling, braking, look,etc... of my zx14 and that is why i bought it who cares if you miss a 0-100 or qtr mile by a little. it depends who rides the bike. hayabusa is a great bike too no doubt. for now i am riding the zx14 and i am loving it.
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zerMATT
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posted May 25, 2006 06:34 AM
It also shows the '14 doing their "test track" (whatever track that might be) at almost 2 seconds quicker than the 'busa.
2 seconds on a 1:10 track is relatively significant when it comes right down to it... that says a lot about the 14's handling & braking advantage considering that they were nearly equal in power on their dyno (160 vs 165hp).
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fish_antlers
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posted May 25, 2006 06:41 AM
just fer the heck of it, I'm mirroring this into the 'busa section.
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zerMATT
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posted May 25, 2006 07:49 AM
but that section is for the 'busa that doesn't exist yet!! 
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EASY
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posted May 25, 2006 07:53 AM
True, true, true but-------aint' it fun to wonder about anything new and mysterious. I do believe that Suk will have a new model Busa next year-----it just does not make any sense to just paint the old one and call it new. But Matt, anything anyone does to move the mark is good for all of us who seem to have too much money.
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blackcurtains
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posted May 25, 2006 05:02 PM
don't worry teamspeed i'm sure when the US and british mags do a complete test on the 14 they will agree it's the better bike but it won't be a total knockout. busa will go in training and come out leaner and meaner than ever. i for one am glad kaw released the 14 cause this class has needed a good shot in the arm for a few years now. litre bikes are a blast but i need my sled to be a little more "real world".
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Pilgrim
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posted May 25, 2006 05:11 PM
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but that section is for the 'busa that doesn't exist yet!!
Hey zerMATT,
Got me a ZX today, they have a good deal on a blue 14 at Granbury Motorsports. Some guy bought it and put 50 miles on, and then took it back the next day, he probably had buyers remorse the salesman said.
Stop by Friday if your by this way, R-1 and I are going to the shops all day.
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matt sterbator
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posted May 25, 2006 05:16 PM
Sounds like a really bad fishing trip
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Kanati
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posted May 25, 2006 08:35 PM
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It also shows the '14 doing their "test track" (whatever track that might be) at almost 2 seconds quicker than the 'busa.
2 seconds on a 1:10 track is relatively significant when it comes right down to it... that says a lot about the 14's handling & braking advantage considering that they were nearly equal in power on their dyno (160 vs 165hp).
I think you read that backwards actually...
 
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smokinZX14
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posted May 25, 2006 09:42 PM
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Why come over here from the SuzHay board to post this? If you cannot read the article to fully understand it and you don't know much about the Jap versions of the bikes vs the US versions, then there isn't much to say? It's like being a kid trying to understand the newspaper without being able to read, but guessing at the stories by the pictures.
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I saw that on the Busa site also ... Seems some the Busa guys will say anything to put the zx14 down..I say some because most of them are open to new bikes like the zx14 ..... I wish they would if given a chance ride a zx14..I feel if they did they would have a different out look on the zx14.... Hell guys it's just a motorcycle not a cure for Cancer!!!
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fastestbusaaround
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posted May 26, 2006 02:56 AM
My buddy who rides a K1200S gets on my 14 last night and rides it for about an hour...couldn't get him off it. He had the needle buried, was raving about the power, handling and brakes...stopped me 3 times to rave about it! Fuck the Busa...anyone here who is curious, go ride a busa and see for yourself...then you'll understand. Busa has nothing on this 14...it never will (not up to 06 anyway).
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kanati
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posted May 26, 2006 08:53 AM
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Fuck the Busa
Great way to get your point across in an intelligent, insightful way. Guess there are extremists on each side of the coin.
The 14 is the new king of speed. Not by much, but it is. And most busa riders acknowledge it. On the street it's going to come down to rider. But then a good rider on a 600ss is gonna wax a busa or 14 too. So it just comes down to "which one do you like better?"
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zerMATT
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posted May 26, 2006 09:41 AM
wait for it... wait for it....
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posted May 26, 2006 12:27 PM
Edited By: TeamSpeed on 26 May 2006 13:29
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Fuck the Busa
Great way to get your point across in an intelligent, insightful way. Guess there are extremists on each side of the coin.
The 14 is the new king of speed. Not by much, but it is. And most busa riders acknowledge it. On the street it's going to come down to rider. But then a good rider on a 600ss is gonna wax a busa or 14 too. So it just comes down to "which one do you like better?"
If a busa owner wants to say this about the busa, more power to him. Not sure how FastestBusa having just about each of the best bikes made makes him an extremist, rather it gives him the license to knock any of those bikes. Chill out.
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Vegasdude
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posted May 26, 2006 02:28 PM
Both bikes are great bikes. Just pick one and be happy............or buy both and enjoy!
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aowash
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posted May 26, 2006 09:19 PM
SO TRUE !!!
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Both bikes are great bikes. Just pick one and be happy............or buy both and enjoy!
So true, you have 1000s these days with awesome riders that aren't afraid to go up against anyone on the street and will take you out even though you know you have the bigger faster bike. It comes down to the rider. Myself I have an 06' Busa and a ZX-14 and the Busa will take it in the 1/4mile but after that it is all the ZX. So right now the ZX is the King of top speed but the Busa still rules the street. Man they are both great bikes though.
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fastestbusaaround
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posted May 26, 2006 09:34 PM
Edited By: fastestbusaaround on 26 May 2006 22:37
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Fuck the Busa
Great way to get your point across in an intelligent, insightful way. Guess there are extremists on each side of the coin.
The 14 is the new king of speed. Not by much, but it is. And most busa riders acknowledge it. On the street it's going to come down to rider. But then a good rider on a 600ss is gonna wax a busa or 14 too. So it just comes down to "which one do you like better?"
Stop taking pieces of my post and quoting that...try looking at the entire post and reading it in the context it in which was meant to be conveyed...then, go ride the two of these bikes and come back us...you are reading this all wrong. Not to brag and that's not my intent...but, I have ridden at least 50K miles on the Busa's over the years that I had them and now have the ZX14...amongst a few other similar rides...what I'm saying is GO RIDE ONE...and see for yourself...there is similarity indeed, but that's by design....the Busa has it's good points, but Kaw took the bike to a new level and speed is only one of the many things it has over the Busa. If you've spent any amount of time on these rides, you know what I am saying and if not, you should, just to satisfy your curiousity. The 14 isn't only about speed...that's the easy part to get right when you design a bike. Any asshole can make a fast bike, but make one that rides & works like a 14, now that's an entirely different story...
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