lilryan
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posted July 27, 2013 07:08 AM
Dyno Numbers
Got my bike tuned at Smithers Performance in Olathe, KS this week and am very happy with the results. The bike started at 184hp and 107tq with a Brocks street map and ended up making 190hp and 112tq. Bike was way rich in the mid range and now feels much smoother just cruising around. Anyone debating getting a custom map, needs to just sack up and do it.
Ryan
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2006 zx14 - Brocks Black Streetmeg / BMC filter / Muzzys AIR delete / PCV / Guhl Motors ECU / PUIG DB 190hp, 112tq
  
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1badzx12r
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posted July 27, 2013 09:07 AM
NO SO FAST .A bunch of times I got good dyno numbers but bad performance at the race track .
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BlackMagic14
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posted July 27, 2013 10:58 AM
Agree with 1bad
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lilryan
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posted July 27, 2013 01:31 PM
I don't run at the track, just a street bike. I just thought i would post up my numbers.
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2006 zx14 - Brocks Black Streetmeg / BMC filter / Muzzys AIR delete / PCV / Guhl Motors ECU / PUIG DB 190hp, 112tq
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smokinstorm
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posted July 27, 2013 04:01 PM
Numbers look good. I'm sure the bike feels great driving around. Thanks for sharing with us.
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BlackMagic14
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posted July 27, 2013 06:18 PM
Lilryan, I wasn't saying anything bad I was just saying I have seen bikes get "tuned" make more power on the dyno and slow down at the track. It sounds like you can feel a difference so that might not be the case with you. Very nice numbers on a Gen 1 regardless
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lilryan
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posted July 28, 2013 05:53 AM
thanks. i thought they were respectable.
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BlackMagic14
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posted July 28, 2013 10:51 AM
Just for comparison on a dynojet 250i at 90 degrees and pretty high humidity my gen 2 with a Brocks CT meg and guhl flash made 196 on pump gas and 247 on spray. I never had it in the dyno stock but my jockeys gen 2 made 183 completely stock
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Lacker 14
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posted July 28, 2013 12:39 PM
I know that every dyno is different,but never have seen a Gen1 dyno 190HP. But numbers are numbers.Cheers...
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cliffrandall
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posted July 29, 2013 03:25 PM
Post your SAE 'smoothed' dyno chart and we'll decide if you're making power.
Cliff
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Swiftkart
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posted July 30, 2013 03:12 PM
I had Smithers do a custom tune a few years ago on my 06, they showed me 3hp more on paper over Brock's map, but the Brock map was .3 quicker at the track, theres a reason for it being richer, the ram air is tuned with a Brock map and not with the Smithers, but since you street ride only you will get a little better gas mileage with the Smithers, nice hp numbers by the way.
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joseph702
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posted August 03, 2013 08:38 PM
Hp seems high to me , seen motors with head cut and played with have 190 . But hey every dyno reads diffrent and it's very true phat is we're it's at for power with the gen 1 .
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lilryan
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posted August 04, 2013 03:21 AM
Id have to look at the sheet, but i think i was at 184hp sae. i dont see how it couldnt run better at the track. the whole curve is above where it used to be. at no point in the power band did it make less power. ill see if i can figure out how to get the sheet uploaded.
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2006 zx14 - Brocks Black Streetmeg / BMC filter / Muzzys AIR delete / PCV / Guhl Motors ECU / PUIG DB 190hp, 112tq
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dakota9498
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posted August 04, 2013 05:45 AM
quote:
Id have to look at the sheet, but i think i was at 184hp sae. i dont see how it couldnt run better at the track. the whole curve is above where it used to be. at no point in the power band did it make less power. ill see if i can figure out how to get the sheet uploaded.
Because real time track tuning takes into account the ram air that you can't see on a dyno.
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starchild
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posted August 04, 2013 07:47 AM
190 hp isn't so far fetched 08 motor on a 06 frame dyno numbers 187 hp 108 tq this was done at harrys machine shop by rick Stetson.so I think this is possible,but again id have to agree good numbers on a dyno doesn't always mean good results at the track. m10 pipe and that was all she wrote.
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BKnight
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posted August 05, 2013 05:10 AM
As a few people have already mentioned, a map from Brock's Performance takes into account real world factors, like the ram air effect. Our maps start on the dyno and finish with real world testing and changes made accordingly. It's not surprising that you were able to achieve higher numbers, but the real test would be on the strip.
That being said, as long as you are happy, that's all that matters!
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eklipse636
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posted August 05, 2013 05:12 PM
quote:
As a few people have already mentioned, a map from Brock's Performance takes into account real world factors, like the ram air effect. Our maps start on the dyno and finish with real world testing and changes made accordingly. It's not surprising that you were able to achieve higher numbers, but the real test would be on the strip.
That being said, as long as you are happy, that's all that matters!
Well said Ben.
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