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1badzx12r


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posted May 24, 2013 05:02 AM        
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I think this thread has run its course.








THAT WAS BACK ON PAGE 1
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BLK ICE


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posted May 24, 2013 09:43 AM        Edited By: BLK ICE on 24 May 2013 18:28
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BLK ICE It seems you have an Ax to grind...... I'm not sure why..... so far your statements you presented as "fact" have been incorrect.

The head and cam package was shipped to Rickey and another shop installed it. Ask Rickey who installed it if you want to know because again, I'm not going to get accused of starting something on here. Again, we were not doing Rickey's motors until after that.

I told you what what happened to that motor and why it blew-up and that we had never touched it until after it blew up at Rockingham and put him on the ground. Again, a wrist pin slid over and was on the cylinder wall and it broke the piston and pin.

Why should I call anyone for a race? I'm not the one contesting my dyno numbers. If someone thinks my dyno numbers are inflated I'm giving them the chance to prove it. All it takes is an email.

I want to make one correction. "cocaine" doesnt have our head and cam package. They have several bikes and I get confused which ones are what. Ive never even seen most of these well known bikes everyone talks about, having only been to MIR a few times.

I think this thread has run its course.


Jim I have no AX to grind and don't have anything personally against you.
Actual it is the opposite, I was not being sarcastic when I stated you are a great machinist and an asset to the performance motorcycle industry.(I meant that).

I have paid for many services and parts from Adams Performance and Two parts from you. On page 1, I answer the guy's question whom started this thread as Honestly as I could (" Adams does complete builds. It is not the head or the cams that make a zx14 fast, it is the complete combo working together, and Adams has that figured out. Jim may also, but I know Adams does.") That wasn't an inappropriate reply nor a personal attack against you.

Adams Performance has proven to me that they are at the top of the performance motorcycle industry through their actions, services, and parts supplied.

Instead of typing a long testimonial about what Adams Performance has help me achieve, I found it more appropriate to post the three videos displaying Adams Performance ability to competing at the highest level of our sport, in many different disciplines, from stock wheelbase, too power adders, too N/A grudge racing too multiple records setting performances in different disciplines.

This was not a personal attack against you. I did it for the purpose of informing the guy whom started this thread, and to expose some of Adams Performance's talents to guys here they didn't already know how dominating, consistent, and professional Adams Performance's products and services are.

My next post on page3 was for the purpose of helping you expose one of your packages. Due to the fact that is sounded cost effective and like a good deal, and to give back to you for the two tb plates I purchased from you to repair a set of tbs for a friend.
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240 with only drop ins and head work sound cost effective. How much for this set up if you do it, and how much if we do it ourselves with your pistons, tbs, head, cams, and specs?
how much can be sprayed with this set-up?
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However, you didn't reply, even after my post about your product caught the Attention of "Shorty's Performance" who is very serious about acquiring the best performance parts.

When thing started to turn personal is when your supporter "scottw" implies that Coby motor doesn't live and yours does and the only way Coby can catch up to you is to copy your work. Also when your supporter implies Coby is just another builder like all the other builders and no one is on your level.

posted May 20, 2013 05:14 PM
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I Have seen the numbers Jim is talking about and I can assure you that it is NOT bullshit. One more thing Jims motors live!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't forget this guy was building land speed motors that were running for miles at a time with 1696 motors. For the people that don't know Jim, he is not just a builder like all the other shops. Jim is a machinist and his work is top notch. The only way the other shops will catch up to Jim is by copying his work like they have already tried to do. Any all motor anything out there we can dyno on the same dyno and pour out of the same can, and this goes for anybody or any shop and video tape it so everyone can see how sad your faces are when Jims so called "bullshit" dyno numbers become a reality for you.
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Your supporter "scottw"( whom only join this forum during this thread for the purpose of grinding an AX) continued to address negative post towards me, and Adams Performance (whom I respect due to its products and services).

In each reply, I did my best to walk the line between answering his disrespectful post and questions directed towards me and expressing the respect I have for you as a machinist.

Finally, I grow jaded of the back and forth, and started to type shortly, directly, but still truthfully.

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The head and cam package was shipped to Rickey and another shop installed it. Ask Rickey who installed it if you want to know because again, I'm not going to get accused of starting something on here. Again, we were not doing Rickey's motors until after that.
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I know that Rickey had just recently added your head and cam package soon before the bike blew-up. If I didn't, I would not have posted it.

I also consider the head and cams part of the engine. Hence, once a race engine has been open up and modified (head and cams) it is shady to dismiss the modification as part of the engine when it fails, but take full credit for it when the same engine shows a higher dyno number before it fails.
Then blame the first builder of the engine for the failure even though it was running fine before the modification.

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Why should I call anyone for a race? I'm not the one contesting my dyno numbers. If someone thinks my dyno numbers are inflated I'm giving them the chance to prove it. All it takes is an email.
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Adams hadn't asked You to race, and You typed:

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Bring your best carpenter motor to the table. Bring your best adams or whom ever's motor to the table...... They dont care who built it or whos head is on the bike. They WILL race you.

Any takers please email me at Jim@competitioncnc.com and I will put you in contact with the appropriate person (motorcycle with inflated hp numbers) to race.

But be warned, none of these guys will race for free or for $1000.... and they don't take American Express.

There you have it.
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You also Typed:

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"The race offers still stand.... To race one of my customers "inflated dyno numbers bikes" please email me at Jim@CompetitionCNC.com and I can arrange a race for you."
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I didn't ask you to call anyone, I typed:
" All Jim has to do is contact Adams Performance @ http://www.adamsperformance.net/"

I also typed:
"We will see a show down if Jim and Adams agree to build and tune a bike(s) from start to finish themselves and race with like weight jockeys or ride the bikes themselves".

Even though I didn't tell you to call Adams Performance, carpenter racing, or every other shop you called out... Why not, you asked for the race(s).


You and everyone on this forum knows what Coby Adams said to your call out!

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I want to make one correction. "cocaine" doesnt have our head and cam package. They have several bikes and I get confused which ones are what. Ive never even seen most of these well known bikes everyone talks about, having only been to MIR a few times.
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I commend you for your above statement. Actions such as these builds Character and Credibility.

If you have a problem with me, so be it.
I hold nothing personally negative towards you or towards you as a machinist.

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posted May 24, 2013 01:37 PM        
Adams Performance know their stuff and thanks to Garron I was able to push my bike even more when I thought I had reached the limit on my motor but I also have seen good motors coming out of CNC and I truly wish I had the funds to buy or build his zx14 270whp engine! I give props to both builders and reading their comments is like watching a tennis game where your heads goes side to side to see who performs better.
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posted May 24, 2013 05:45 PM        
by the way has any of yous guays beaten this stock motor?
http://www.latrobevalleyexpress.com.au/story/1342392/kens-shattering-records/

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quikgix


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posted May 24, 2013 05:49 PM        
I have Adams(Garron)headwork on my bike as well and I think my bike runs pretty good for a stock bore and stock stroke first gen engine.I also have Jims 47's on it as well. Both companies are very reputable and know what they're doing. Its all personal preference who you want to do your build.
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1badzx12r


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posted May 24, 2013 05:49 PM        
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by the way has any of yous guays beaten this stock motor?
http://www.latrobevalleyexpress.com.au/story/1342392/kens-shattering-records/



LOOKS LIKE BLACK ICE RACING IS FASTER THAN BLACK ICE PERFORMANCE
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BLK ICE


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posted May 24, 2013 09:07 PM        
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by the way has any of yous guays beaten this stock motor?
http://www.latrobevalleyexpress.com.au/story/1342392/kens-shattering-records/



LOOKS LIKE BLACK ICE RACING IS FASTER THAN BLACK ICE PERFORMANCE

Nope, I will run over that bike in the 1/8.
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madnessracing


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posted May 25, 2013 08:36 PM        
I will run that bike over in the 1/8 and 1/4 mile bone stock first gen 14
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1badzx12r


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posted May 26, 2013 04:33 AM        Edited By: 1badzx12r on 26 May 2013 12:33
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I will run that bike over in the 1/8 and 1/4 mile bone stock first gen 14


lotta bold talk from peoples that's not run 218.01 mph ever on a bone stock gen 1 zx14


why don't you two donate to his cause and run him over on his way to Bonneville
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posted May 26, 2013 06:14 AM        Edited By: BLK ICE on 26 May 2013 14:23
why.. why.. why.. DEEZ NUTZ!
You make a donation first, and I will see if I can match it.
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posted May 26, 2013 08:11 AM        Edited By: 1badzx12r on 26 May 2013 16:13
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posted May 26, 2013 08:57 AM        
I'm not talking about you Blk Ice I was talking about that fast busa!
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BLK ICE


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posted May 26, 2013 04:14 PM        
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I'm not talking about you Blk Ice I was talking about that fast busa!

I knew, I was replying to The Bad Guy.
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posted May 26, 2013 05:07 PM        
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Everybody calm down, there is not a lot of difference between the packages that reputable companies do,Hell we are not talking about major modifications if you get 2-5 hp difference between good engine portings,because you will not get more than that difference,so what?There is only so much you can do with a port job ,so brighten up

second time out with jims head and ive picked up 5mph in the 1/8 over the head i was using. both heads are big valve heads.jim has made a believer out of me. same cams in both heads. jims just flat out makes more power than what i was useing. bike runs how it should now.
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posted May 27, 2013 06:51 AM        
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Everybody calm down, there is not a lot of difference between the packages that reputable companies do,Hell we are not talking about major modifications if you get 2-5 hp difference between good engine portings,because you will not get more than that difference,so what?There is only so much you can do with a port job ,so brighten up

second time out with jims head and ive picked up 5mph in the 1/8 over the head i was using. both heads are big valve heads.jim has made a believer out of me. same cams in both heads. jims just flat out makes more power than what i was useing. bike runs how it should now.
if you don't mind me asking, what MPH you hittin in the 1/8th?
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posted May 27, 2013 07:04 AM        
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Everybody calm down, there is not a lot of difference between the packages that reputable companies do,Hell we are not talking about major modifications if you get 2-5 hp difference between good engine portings,because you will not get more than that difference,so what?There is only so much you can do with a port job ,so brighten up

second time out with jims head and ive picked up 5mph in the 1/8 over the head i was using. both heads are big valve heads.jim has made a believer out of me. same cams in both heads. jims just flat out makes more power than what i was useing. bike runs how it should now.
if you don't mind me asking, what MPH you hittin in the 1/8th?

135-136 right now. a little more tuning and i believe it will average around 137
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