dozerdogue
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posted March 24, 2012 03:51 AM
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well, i know first hand how that 3rd gear roll on with a bmw and the new 14 works..
i95 south in daytona me and ricky gadson rolled on last week. i have a short wheelbase bmw so 3rd was the only way i could go with my wheelie pig. rickey was on his bike he just went 8.50@160 on and i was on my stock wheelbase bmw with a brock pipe. we rolled on fairly low in the rpm range for my bmw in 3rd. the bmw pulled out a hair and stayed there until the middle part of 5th the the 14 inched back. i give the 14 props as its fast and kawasaki stepped up. if both bikes had a arm the bmw would pull it hands down until the aero and tq took over on the 14. he also ran a gen 2 busa that made 190hp at the brute hp shootout. both bikes were setting around 64" and they rolled from 2nd. they were stuck together like glue when they rolled. maybe this will clear up the confusion...
for all the bmw haters out there that think only brocks bike's run those numbers im here to tell you mine is completely stock and makes 200hp on mr 12. for a stock 1000cc bike nothing will run with it in its class. its funny everyone compares bikes with 400+ more cc's with it. i tell it like it is as i have no reason to lie...
Roflmao...this was obviously meant to be a joke. Yah me and Ricky Gadson rolled on last week on I 95 .. He can't even spell his name right for god sakes "Rickey". They must be real tight buddies lol. As for the S1000RR beating the 14 even if this unknown legend ran Gadson he still would lose for the simple fact he's racing one of the best riders on the planet. Plz p.m me so I can chat with Rick I want his number lol. At least I'm real and I would have something in common with him we are both good at what we do. As for the S1000RR beating the 14 out of its powerband plz. The BMW is softer then breast feeding tit when it's out of it powerband. Guess what Im taking out my new rocket propelled bike to the moon tonight anyone want to come....lol
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Bently
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posted March 24, 2012 04:42 AM
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I thought this was a zx14 forum?
It is, so why you talking about your zx12
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RICH CRAFT 1
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posted March 24, 2012 08:37 AM
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FYI for roll on races the shorter the bike the better for you so the 14r had a disadvantage on that part .
Wtf are you talking about the bmw having an advantage because it's shorter? It still wheelies in 3rd and the 14 never even thinks about it. The bmw was disadvantaged because it was out of it's pwr band rolling at 6000 rpm. The 14 was right where out needed to be, the 14/busa's torque is huge at this rpm compared to the bmw. I state the facts and people just don't get it. I give, the new zx14 is the fastest bike out there period... lol.. I understand what it takes and evidently most of you don't. The new 14 is fast and it should be, watch the louisville slugger project on brocks site. That bike has picked up close to 30hp with the mods so far with mr12. Do you think rg's bike is stock? I don't think so... it has the same mods brock has done. all I'm saying is there are stock bmw's out there that runs right with the new zx14. it appears there are plenty keyboard cowboys on this site that can't face reality.
I don't think you're a liar. I think you're just confused about what happened! any time you do a roll-on races , There is a lot of factors that go into that. The biggest one is who gets the hit, you can take to bikes,with the same ET and mph, if one gets the hit, It will turn into three bike links for the guy that got the hit. quote: " the bmw would pull it hands down until the aero and tq took over on the 14" LOL. if you want a real comparison meet the 14 at the track! put the same size riders on them, put the same gas in them, and watch your smoke and mirrors evaporates.
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Bently
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posted March 24, 2012 09:44 AM
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FYI for roll on races the shorter the bike the better for you so the 14r had a disadvantage on that part .
Wtf are you talking about the bmw having an advantage because it's shorter? It still wheelies in 3rd and the 14 never even thinks about it. The bmw was disadvantaged because it was out of it's pwr band rolling at 6000 rpm. The 14 was right where out needed to be, the 14/busa's torque is huge at this rpm compared to the bmw. I state the facts and people just don't get it. I give, the new zx14 is the fastest bike out there period... lol.. I understand what it takes and evidently most of you don't. The new 14 is fast and it should be, watch the louisville slugger project on brocks site. That bike has picked up close to 30hp with the mods so far with mr12. Do you think rg's bike is stock? I don't think so... it has the same mods brock has done. all I'm saying is there are stock bmw's out there that runs right with the new zx14. it appears there are plenty keyboard cowboys on this site that can't face reality.
I don't think you're a liar. I think you're just confused about what happened! any time you do a roll-on races , There is a lot of factors that go into that. The biggest one is who gets the hit, you can take to bikes,with the same ET and mph, if one gets the hit, It will turn into three bike links for the guy that got the hit. quote: " the bmw would pull it hands down until the aero and tq took over on the 14" LOL. if you want a real comparison meet the 14 at the track! put the same size riders on them, put the same gas in them, and watch your smoke and mirrors evaporates.
Ken
But as of right now isn't the bmw the quicker and faster bike at the track? I'm sure when brocks 14r gets on the track it won't be any longer
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MJ
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posted March 24, 2012 10:02 AM
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I am so friggin tired of hearing how frigging great the eurotrash bmw is.
I am going on a group ride next week and there is supposed to be some hotshot on the s1000rrrrrrrrrrrrr.
I will destroy it on my lil ol zx12 and I'll post up some video.
Please do, I'm tired of everybody kissing BMW boot lol.
I'm starting to wonder if the S1000R is the second coming of Christ 
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justoyz2
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posted March 24, 2012 10:06 PM
Do anyone know of any BMW that has ran any numbers close to the Brock bike?
I witnessed Richard run both stock wheel base, slammed ZX10r and S1kr at the track.
The BMW was out of ATL with full system and fuel managment system on board, the 10r had a slip on and fuel managment system, both had good gas, both were geared.
Result: Richard ran faster times on the zx10.... this was at SGMS last March....for the record, he went 9:03 on mine with a 1:50 short time...@ 152 in April/11 @ Bradenton MS, in very humid conditions
As to the Gen 1 running with a Gen 2 ..... straight bull shit
Kawi got both bikes right :->>
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dakota9498
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posted March 25, 2012 08:01 AM
I have seen Dystany Sprulock turn 8.70's with an Akropovic exhaust and no power commander. And her 60's are not strong at all, she is just light. I don't remember how long her bike is, but other than the pipe, stretch and being lowered it is stock.
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Wheelie
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posted March 25, 2012 08:03 AM
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I have seen Dystany Sprulock turn 8.70's with an Akropovic exhaust and no power commander. And her 60's are not strong at all, she is just light. I don't remember how long her bike is, but other than the pipe, stretch and being lowered it is stock.
that's what they all say lol
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dakota9498
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posted March 25, 2012 08:13 AM
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I have seen Dystany Sprulock turn 8.70's with an Akropovic exhaust and no power commander. And her 60's are not strong at all, she is just light. I don't remember how long her bike is, but other than the pipe, stretch and being lowered it is stock.
that's what they all say lol
wee
I have seen it run, it doesn't trap like it has motor work, and like I said as far as riding goes she is nothing special. There were also 3 or 4 in the Crazy 8s class last time. They run fairly well, but I haven't seen any down where Brock's was, but I also don't know anyone that has put that kind of time or money in one. All the ones that I have see have stock wheels, stock extended arms, etc... I am not a huge fan of the BMW, I am not really a fan of any 1000 for dragracing, but I think that given all the parts Brock had on his and a lightweight rider with a good 60' could get it done or damn close.
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JZX
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posted March 25, 2012 08:55 AM
Avg weight guys just can't make a beemer roll like the flyweights can. I tried- on a stretched slammed beemer and went 4 mph slower then my 14....
Not enuff muscle in a liter bike for that... NA motor I'm talkin.
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dakota9498
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posted March 25, 2012 09:05 AM
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Avg weight guys just can't make a beemer roll like the flyweights can. I tried- on a stretched slammed beemer and went 4 mph slower then my 14....
Not enuff muscle in a liter bike for that... NA motor I'm talkin.
And that is why I don't really like 1000's for dragracing. Add in the fact that the 14 or Busa is just so much easier to go fast on due to the torque, I will stick to my 14. I have buddies that fly on 1000's but they are all lightweights.
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bradkong12
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posted March 25, 2012 10:25 AM
ZX-10 vs BMW ??????????? a new ZX-10 any1 hav those numbers???????????
hey BROCK please trick out a ZX-10 , BM WHAT???????????? that would b apples to apples ,
or more apples to apples ZX-14R vs BUSA WHATS THATS
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justoyz2
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posted March 26, 2012 11:08 AM
Bradkong12,
Brock did a zx10, It had stock wheels, McIntosh arm, lowered, ECU mod, tuned Mr12, Brock one off full exhaust. Richard Gadson went 8:7s on it running out of gear. He didn't put any BSTs on it though, and not sure if Ryan or JT rode the bike.
It is being sold at the dealership in Ohio..
Rickey G on the other hand has one with bolt-ons, a slip on, Mr12, tuned; I heard it was stock motor. Richard rode that bike and went some 8:5s on it..
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1badzx12r
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posted March 26, 2012 11:42 AM
 Edited By: 1badzx12r on 26 Mar 2012 19:44
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mcd/2916616152.html
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As they say, it ain't bragging if it's true. So when we claim that the Suzuki Hayabusa GSX1300R is the fastest production bike on the planet, we're merely stating the facts.
bmw, zx10, zx14r, zx14, Vmax .. Can't beat them busa's
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shawnski
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posted March 26, 2012 11:45 AM
Edited By: shawnski on 26 Mar 2012 19:53
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http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mcd/2916616152.html
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As they say, it ain't bragging if it's true. So when we claim that the Suzuki Hayabusa GSX1300R is the fastest production bike on the planet, we're merely stating the facts.
bmw, zx10, zx14r, zx14, Vmax .. Can't beat them busa's
9k for that??? no thanks!!
and busa boys and dealers they still think that their busa holds the value better than anything else out there..
http://www.ksmotorsports.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?sid=7564944E-02X3K26K2012J1I19I10JPMQ1296R0&veh=88137&pov=2581930
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JZX
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posted March 26, 2012 12:07 PM
Fastest (top speed) back in 99, and in the U.S. mags, not the euro's.
Anyone see how in the Mach III vid/write up how bad the 2000 ZX12R beat the mighty booosa?
Further more, the 2007 busa's speed limiter kicked in 3 mph earlier then the 2007 ZX14. Not to mention that the gen 1 busa made 10-15 hp less then the same year model 14.
High Five Cycles= false advertizing
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shawnski
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posted March 26, 2012 12:11 PM
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Fastest (top speed) back in 99, and in the U.S. mags, not the euro's.
Anyone see how in the Mach III vid/write up how bad the 2000 ZX12R beat the mighty booosa?
Further more, the 2007 busa's speed limiter kicked in 3 mph earlier then the 2007 ZX14. Not to mention that the gen 1 busa made 10-15 hp less then the same year model 14.
High Five Cycles= false advertizing
salesman and sales manager HIGH FIVE each other when they sell that bike to some dumbass busa lover for 9k... LOL
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ryn0cer0s
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posted March 26, 2012 12:23 PM
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http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mcd/2916616152.html
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As they say, it ain't bragging if it's true. So when we claim that the Suzuki Hayabusa GSX1300R is the fastest production bike on the planet, we're merely stating the facts.
bmw, zx10, zx14r, zx14, Vmax .. Can't beat them busa's
flag that crap for spam!!!
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JZX
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posted March 26, 2012 12:25 PM
But I will give them credit for hosting the largest bike meet in north texas every thurs. night. Complete with food, DJ, strippers for the bike wash, etc.
Squid city but at least it's not boring.
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shawnski
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posted March 26, 2012 02:58 PM
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But I will give them credit for hosting the largest bike meet in north texas every thurs. night. Complete with food, DJ, strippers for the bike wash, etc.
Squid city but at least it's not boring.
9k for 07 busa... hell they could afford food and dJ.. and maybe few strippers next time!!! lol
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posted March 26, 2012 03:26 PM
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http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mcd/2916616152.html
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As they say, it ain't bragging if it's true. So when we claim that the Suzuki Hayabusa GSX1300R is the fastest production bike on the planet, we're merely stating the facts.
bmw, zx10, zx14r, zx14, Vmax .. Can't beat them busa's
flag that crap for spam!!!
great minds think alike...
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bradkong12
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posted March 26, 2012 04:10 PM
if a ZX-10 without BTS can run those numbers??????????
BM WHAAAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KAWA still the baddest n the land , fact jack!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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JZX
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posted March 26, 2012 04:45 PM
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FYI for roll on races the shorter the bike the better for you so the 14r had a disadvantage on that part .
Wtf are you talking about the bmw having an advantage because it's shorter? It still wheelies in 3rd and the 14 never even thinks about it. The bmw was disadvantaged because it was out of it's pwr band rolling at 6000 rpm. The 14 was right where out needed to be, the 14/busa's torque is huge at this rpm compared to the bmw. I state the facts and people just don't get it. I give, the new zx14 is the fastest bike out there period... lol.. I understand what it takes and evidently most of you don't. The new 14 is fast and it should be, watch the louisville slugger project on brocks site. That bike has picked up close to 30hp with the mods so far with mr12. Do you think rg's bike is stock? I don't think so... it has the same mods brock has done. all I'm saying is there are stock bmw's out there that runs right with the new zx14. it appears there are plenty keyboard cowboys on this site that can't face reality.
BMW's must be slower in Texas.
Care to come over here and roll with me on my 06 to see if your's is a ringer? If you are ethiopean crackhead weight I have a fill in just to make things fair. $$$$
I think you are forgetting the 1000cc Kawasaki that seems to have knocked the beemers off of the Florida 9/10ths, and of course one zx10 ridden by little Richard that made quick work of the drag beemers not long ago..
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MJ
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posted March 26, 2012 08:46 PM
LMAO Beemers gettin' the smackdown. And that 9k dollar busa in the ad has been crashed, no decals ANYwhere and the front upper fairing paint doesn't quite match the sides. Don't folks realize stuff like thats pretty obvious? These dealerships must really think the average riders an idiot.....or is there TRULY a sucker born every minute? lol
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Ricksgsxr
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posted March 27, 2012 08:22 AM
I like both, they each have their strengths and weakness but geesz some of you need to take a reality check. . the the little bimmer is 441 cc smaller than the 14...this is like comparing a Zx-10 litre bike too a GSXR 600 and the 1000 guys beating thier chest. LOL!
Be happy BMW they has not made a 1400 cc version of it...yet
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