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posted December 19, 2011 09:26 PM
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I picked up 8 mph with a gear change and 9 hp- fact.
Who wants to put money on it?
show me your proof
152mph is not an 8mph gain over a gen1 zx14 with a rider your weight
116 and 143
muzzy tune and 17-44
124 and 150
Nick's tune and 17-47
amazing
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posted December 19, 2011 09:26 PM
If you look at the graph, I would think getting this thing moving swb is a issue. The added TQ and the fact it comes in sooner implies this. I just don't understand the big question anyway. Wheelie ran a good 2-3 mph over what a stock gen one does in the 8th, why is it so hard to think this thing won't back end like a mofo considering it makes the added power AND. Actually runs out the tacks back door unlike a stock gen1 does?
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posted December 19, 2011 09:32 PM
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posted December 19, 2011 09:34 PM
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Wheelie ran a good 2-3 mph over what a stock gen one does in the 8th, why is it so hard to think this thing won't back end like a mofo considering it makes the added power AND. Actually runs out the tacks back door unlike a stock gen1 does?
wee not stock why would you want to compair his bike to a stock gen 1 ..
smokin posted a good apples to apples a few days ago at SWB .. 2012 vs 2009
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posted December 19, 2011 09:37 PM
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Nice..........cant wait to get me one of these!!!
Rickey how big of a difference does the 40 tooth make keeping it down?
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posted December 19, 2011 09:39 PM
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The hateraid is so strong with these two. On the STREET where 98% of these bikes are going to DO THE WORK the added HP will greatly outway the extra few pounds. And the fact that ALMOST ALL The added weight is in a exhaust that will ne laying on many a shop floor. It seems like every thread has zx12 guy bashing and hating on things that people are proving daily.
stock vs stock that was my only arguement.. not the hp or torque or how much zx14r better than zx14... i guess u are brain washed too with all those dyno results.. as i said before i had them all zx12, busa, zx14 and soon zx14r but i am not loyal to anything or any brand.. i just say it as should be.. that's all.. i am not in any of these manufactures payroll.
I think gearing changes dont count as mods.............I usually change the gearing on most of my bikes both street and dirt..............Rickey's just trying to optimize the bike with stock wheelbase and engine.
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posted December 19, 2011 09:48 PM
This is pointless. I had a 06 with stock exhaust, flies out pc3 with sprockets. My 2012 is as fast on the street untouched. There is snow coming, rain now, let the bs continue. A few people out there have been doing the work to find the tracks and the weather but they are all obviously liers.. f it, let's all go buy old zx12s and save 12000 bucks and be cool like the man.
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posted December 19, 2011 09:49 PM
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posted December 19, 2011 09:51 PM
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posted December 19, 2011 09:53 PM
The green gen 1 is so bitch....
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posted December 19, 2011 09:54 PM
Compared to Vegas he dropped 2 tenths and picked up about 5mph.
Good job Rickey!
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posted December 19, 2011 09:56 PM
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This just not real too me! 9.10 155mph with NO TRICKS, stock air filter stock pipes and pump gas and 40 tooth rear sprocket! The 2009 I test had pipe PC, and tuned with a 40 tooth, but only ran 9.23 152. All with my 180 pound suited self!! Wait til my nephew lil Rich throws a leg over the 2012!!!
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do i have this right now .. 152mph pipe and tuned 2009 zx14
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156mph with a 41hp more 2012 zx14r minus 30lbs of cans making it 12lbs lighter
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posted December 19, 2011 09:59 PM
Lol no tune with the cans off.. so 160mph bike with a tune, air cleaner and maybe bearings.. holy CRAP...
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posted December 19, 2011 10:01 PM
The Gen 1 14 is lighter also becuase it has a full system.
The cans alone aren't as much of a weight difference compared to dumping the header with them.
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posted December 19, 2011 10:02 PM
my quickest full exhaust run which proves my theory that Vegas was a slow track by almost ,2 tenths. My production bike is setup like a twin to the bike I rode in Vegas at the press intro. So you can always add >2 tenths on what ever you run at 3000ft altitude.
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posted December 19, 2011 10:04 PM
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f it, let's all go buy old zx12s and save 12000 bucks and be cool like the man.
hey thats an idea .. since bracket racing is about all there is out there anyways ..
and TNT ... LIKE WHO'S GONNA BE IMPRESSED BY ANYTHING WE OWN ANYWAYS .. i got freinds that run 4.90's in the 1/8th and there ain't no 2012 zx14r that gonna touch them for a while anyways
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posted December 19, 2011 10:20 PM
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Again I provide an independant test at my own expense for public info only and of course, someone has something negative to say....as always!
1badzx12R............you should change your screen name, cause how can you be a ZX owner and talk so bad about ZX's?
The answer to your 30 hp = 8 mph question is............................................it was 30 hp peak and 41hp at red line!! 41....41....41HP difference equals 8 mph............ALL DAY
Hey rickey, just a quick question, why you guys did not leave alone the sprockets as stock in both bikes?
Simple......nobody races with stock gearing, every other bike in the world requires more gear to get the bike off the line without bogging, but the 14 has always required less gear with stock wheelbase to keep the front down, and now that the new 14R makes 95 ft lbs of tourque at 7 thousand rpms and 114 ft lbs at 7500, it makes it rediculously hard, next to impossible to ride with stock gearing which is a 42,1 tooth more than 2011.
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posted December 19, 2011 10:23 PM
PROOF OF TORQUE CURVE
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posted December 19, 2011 10:29 PM
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Again I provide an independant test at my own expense for public info only and of course, someone has something negative to say....as always!
1badzx12R............you should change your screen name, cause how can you be a ZX owner and talk so bad about ZX's?
The answer to your 30 hp = 8 mph question is............................................it was 30 hp peak and 41hp at red line!! 41....41....41HP difference equals 8 mph............ALL DAY
excuse me its 41hp and 8mph what about the 18lb gain in weight still ..
when your nephew rides i bet it picks up another 8mph .. he's what 20lbs lighter..
i'm not talking bad about zx14's . its the bullshitt you trying to feed me ...
all these other dyno's that got posted was around 30hp .. but you got 41 that explains alot [/quo t
Go back and look at Smokin's, Seno's, Wee's Dyno sheets, the 14R goes to redline and is still climbing , going up, at 200 hp, when the REV limiter kicks in, around 10.7 . plus 114 to 118 ft lbs torque @ 7500 !!!! Has a wide torque band , 100 ft lbs plus from 5 to 10, This is a TORQUE BEAST, these bike ALL have low miles too. When someone breaks one in, pulls air filter , extends REV limiter 11 or 11.3 you will see 208 , 210 hp with out a tune !!
Now look at Shane's - Racheal's Gen 1 at ( Tour of Brock's Performance) it has 47's, o<
Bigger, Badder, Stronger and Faster
And it is all Warranted, This is the New Standard, all else is road kill.
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posted December 19, 2011 10:30 PM
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Again I provide an independant test at my own expense for public info only and of course, someone has something negative to say....as always!
1badzx12R............you should change your screen name, cause how can you be a ZX owner and talk so bad about ZX's?
The answer to your 30 hp = 8 mph question is............................................it was 30 hp peak and 41hp at red line!! 41....41....41HP difference equals 8 mph............ALL DAY
excuse me its 41hp and 8mph what about the 18lb gain in weight still ..
when your nephew rides i bet it picks up another 8mph .. he's what 20lbs lighter..
i'm not talking bad about zx14's . its the bullshitt you trying to feed me ...
all these other dyno's that got posted was around 30hp .. but you got 41 that explains alot
This is the last time I'm directing a post to you............YOU SAID ALL THESE OTHER DYNO'S THAT GOT POSTED WAS AROUND 30HP AND I GOT 41??
I AM THE ONLY ONE ON THIS SIGHT THAT DID A HEAD TO HEAD DYNO CHART WITH THE 2 BIKES, AND IT WAS 30 HP PEAK AND 41 AT REDLINE.......READ THE DYNO CHART I JUST REPOSTED DUDE!!!
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posted December 19, 2011 10:36 PM
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This just not real too me! 9.10 155mph with NO TRICKS, stock air filter stock pipes and pump gas and 40 tooth rear sprocket! The 2009 I test had pipe PC, and tuned with a 40 tooth, but only ran 9.23 152. All with my 180 pound suited self!! Wait til my nephew lil Rich throws a leg over the 2012!!!
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do i have this right now .. 152mph pipe and tuned 2009 zx14
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156mph with a 41hp more 2012 zx14r minus 30lbs of cans making it 12lbs lighter
THIS my last post with you... dude
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posted December 19, 2011 10:51 PM
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posted December 19, 2011 11:02 PM
Ricky, I have a honest question. Is the clutch in the new bike any different than the old one? Upgraded? Taking the abuse as good as the old one did?
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posted December 19, 2011 11:38 PM
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Ricky, I have a honest question. Is the clutch in the new bike any different than the old one? Upgraded? Taking the abuse as good as the old one did?
So far so good! i have made over 35 rns in a day without problems.
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posted December 20, 2011 01:28 AM
Rickey,
you oughta bring a 14R up to Loring this year; it should fly!!!
Karl
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