justoyz2
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posted December 29, 2011 08:50 PM
20 hp gain with hand porting no milling
Riders,
Please check this link out, and tell me what you think.....
http://www.psychobike.com/forums/kawasaki-zx12r-zx14/93358-08-zx14-ported-head-2012-14-a-2.html#post885339
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kaw now
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posted December 29, 2011 09:23 PM
http://www.psychobike.com/forums/kawasaki-zx12r-zx14/93358-08-zx14-ported-head-2012-14-a-2.html#post885339
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codyc_13
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posted December 29, 2011 09:23 PM
The guy is a tool..
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posted December 30, 2011 02:35 AM
+1 Big tool. Cecils dyno is "supposedly" generous,(I have no experience with it) and this dude is using Standard numbers, not SAE. Combine the two factors and his 205/123 goes to 190HP /108TQ and that is a little more realistic, maybe 5+ more each with MR9.. Max. A 8-12HP increase would be realistic with ported thin head gasket w/ MR9.... I wish I had some of whatever this guy was smoking! Oh yeah, notice the Dyno sheet.... all info around the edges was cut off.... If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is... Not saying anyone is not pulling this guys chain either, they could be just milking him for his $$$. From the sounds of it this dude belongs on the short bus wearing a helmet and licking the window.
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posted December 30, 2011 05:54 AM
 Edited By: SteddyTeddy on 30 Dec 2011 13:56
It's amazing what people will believe! LOL Just a simple port job for 20 HP?  Hell it took boring, stroking and bigger valves to get 30 on my bike! Guess I have the wrong guy porting my head. LOL
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justins07zx10
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posted December 30, 2011 05:57 AM
I bet it don't make 180 on my dynojet. I don't know whats up with the dynos around here they are all stupid high, but I guess it makes people feel special when you give them numbers like that.
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justoyz2
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posted December 30, 2011 06:20 AM
It doesn't have a thinner headgasket, it has a stock head gasket, no larger valves nor cams.
I guess I need to start kicking ROCKS
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Bently
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posted December 30, 2011 06:33 AM
Well my heads off right now for a simple clean up and milling 20 thous off and I was told 13 to 15 hp from this by someone on here who knows his shit. but guessing you guys would say that's not possible either.
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kawpower
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posted December 30, 2011 06:37 AM
I think u guys need to look again,u calling him a tool but i dont see were he or the owner stated he gained 20hp ,he never said what he started out with at all,WOW! and then your bashin the dyno guy and there's no before and after to fudge any numbers,again WOW!
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Bently
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posted December 30, 2011 06:39 AM
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I think u guys need to look again,u calling him a tool but i dont see were he or the owner stated he gained 20hp ,he never said what he started out with at all,WOW! and then your bashin the dyno guy and there's no before and after to fudge any numbers,again WOW!
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posted December 30, 2011 06:42 AM
And the guy runs 8.90's on a stock motor so wait for his times after the head work.
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posted December 30, 2011 06:43 AM
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I guess I need to start kicking ROCKS
Yep, that would be a good idea.
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Bently
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posted December 30, 2011 06:45 AM
Maybe he switched to better oil at the same time. LOL
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Famous1
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posted December 30, 2011 07:00 AM
i see where the guy came back and said " he nor the owner stated a 20hp gain".... I wonder if he would so kind as to tell us what the actual gain was...if it was 20, i know where the head on my 14r will be going when the time comes..
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posted December 30, 2011 07:16 AM
-1 Not a tool
+1 Dude that told him 20HP, BIG TOOL! ;-)
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kawpower
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posted December 30, 2011 07:18 AM
He is done with the post, i know the bike will be running IN ALL MIR CRAZY 8s so come and see for yourself!
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posted December 30, 2011 08:11 AM
huh
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Big_T112
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posted December 30, 2011 08:16 AM
Maybe they do like our local aftermarket Harley Shop. they let air out of the rear tire to where it is half flat to get the first reading then after they tune it they over inflate the rear tire to where it is hard as a rock then get the customer the " after" tunning run. then return the tire pressure to normal and give the happy customer his bike.
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Bently
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posted December 30, 2011 08:37 AM
The only true way to see any hp ains on these 14's is to get your self one of those 14r's
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posted December 30, 2011 09:01 AM
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The only true way to see any hp ains on these 14's is to get your self one of those 14r's
nonesense..... i can get your 14 to put out 205 hp by porting the head and tuning... i only accept cash and must be paid in full before hand.. thanks..
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posted December 30, 2011 09:09 AM
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And the guy runs 8.90's on a stock motor so wait for his times after the head work.
I ran that guy in MiRock, he ran some 8.80s on a stock motor.
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dakota9498
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posted December 30, 2011 09:11 AM
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He is done with the post, i know the bike will be running IN ALL MIR CRAZY 8s so come and see for yourself!
If he is going to be running faster than he did last year it will be a challenge to run Crazy 8's. I had a problem this year because I kept running too fast, it was hard for me to change shift points or whatever just to run the number.
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Bently
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posted December 30, 2011 09:36 AM
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He is done with the post, i know the bike will be running IN ALL MIR CRAZY 8s so come and see for yourself!
If he is going to be running faster than he did last year it will be a challenge to run Crazy 8's. I had a problem this year because I kept running too fast, it was hard for me to change shift points or whatever just to run the number.
Why? my bike runs 8.90's and I slow down to run the 9.50 class with no issues.
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posted December 30, 2011 09:42 AM
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Well my heads off right now for a simple clean up and milling 20 thous off and I was told 13 to 15 hp from this by someone on here who knows his shit. but guessing you guys would say that's not possible either.
I did the full CNC SS .060/.040 mill job and only saw 10 real no BS hp so I don't see how .020 will net 13 to 15hp.
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justoyz2
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posted December 30, 2011 10:07 AM
The 20 hp gain came from Busa2002, he spoke with one of the two..... I don't know, but 20 hp gain from porting, with no valves, cams or milling it crazy.... you can believe what you want 14 owners.... I have had two 14s, two 12Rs, a '98 zx9r, every gen zx10, a pair of zx7Rs and a couple of zx6s; been around racing for a while and I have never heard of gaining 20 hp with porting only..... Carpenter claims some good numbers but his combo is head/cams
Benlty as to your gain, it's different what you are doing, milling/porting 13 to 16 is not uncommon for the package you are getting (SS thru CNC, correct)?
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