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posted November 16, 2011 01:59 PM
I thought he had ran some 5.50's? Wee, what was the fastest time you had on that bike?
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posted November 16, 2011 02:22 PM
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Just wanted to chime in.
Our 2012 ZX14R made 178.59 stock
On the same dyno the strongest of 7 gen 1 ZX14's was 157
Thanks..............thats the kind of info I was looking for!!
So the 2012 ZX 14R made about 20 MORE horsepower than a Gen 1 ZX 14 stock....................then you guys squuezed another 26 horsepower out of it piped and tuned?
If that bike piped and tuned puts out 46 more horsepower than a stock Gen 1 ZX 14....................I absolutely HAVE to have one in my garage by the end of Winter!!!!
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posted November 16, 2011 02:26 PM
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I will go on record and say it very well could be easier to go faster on a gen 2 busa or a gen 1 14 at swb for the average rider, a 1441 bike at swb is going to be hard to 330 for most guys. very few will get the job done well
I agree with you Brent .. We talked about that very thing the other day .. As soon as i get my ZX14R i will put that to the test ..
Smokin, any idea when you are getting your ZX 14R?
You think this bike will be hard to 60 & 330 for the majority of riders?...............it cant be as beastly as Roy's bike............the cams, porting and ECU got to kill off and tame some of that lowend power right?
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posted November 16, 2011 02:29 PM
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Just wanted to chime in.
Our 2012 ZX14R made 178.59 stock
On the same dyno the strongest of 7 gen 1 ZX14's was 157
There's our 20+ HP!
Thanks.
Encouraging!
30hp for my production model.
wee
Any idea when your getting your 14R wheelie?..................are you gonna try it SWB at all or you gonna stretch it right away?
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posted November 16, 2011 02:55 PM
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I will go on record and say it very well could be easier to go faster on a gen 2 busa or a gen 1 14 at swb for the average rider, a 1441 bike at swb is going to be hard to 330 for most guys. very few will get the job done well
I agree with you Brent .. We talked about that very thing the other day .. As soon as i get my ZX14R i will put that to the test ..
Smokin, any idea when you are getting your ZX 14R?
You think this bike will be hard to 60 & 330 for the majority of riders?...............it cant be as beastly as Roy's bike............the cams, porting and ECU got to kill off and tame some of that lowend power right?
I have not heard anything from the dealer i ordered my ZX14R from .. I hope it comes in a few weeks because the air down here is just right for riding ..
No way is it going to be as bad as Roys bike to ride .. Roy bike was 1530, NO flys , no body work ect ect .. I'm sure it will be hard to ride stock wheel base , just look at the problems Ricky had using all the power in low gear ..
Let me say " it's going to be ugly for most riders " I'm betting most riders will go faster on the old ZX14 .. I'm putting myself in that " most riders " ... It will take someone with more skills than me to pull of real fast numbers at stock wheel base .. I will go fast on it , but it will take some seat time .. Hell i have not rode a bike in a very long time .. It's crazy to think i could just jump on the bike and run Rickys numbers from Vegas .. I think it will take a few trips to the track and a few street miles to get my game back ..
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posted November 16, 2011 04:38 PM
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I will go on record and say it very well could be easier to go faster on a gen 2 busa or a gen 1 14 at swb for the average rider, a 1441 bike at swb is going to be hard to 330 for most guys. very few will get the job done well
I agree with you Brent .. We talked about that very thing the other day .. As soon as i get my ZX14R i will put that to the test ..
Smokin, any idea when you are getting your ZX 14R?
You think this bike will be hard to 60 & 330 for the majority of riders?...............it cant be as beastly as Roy's bike............the cams, porting and ECU got to kill off and tame some of that lowend power right?
I have not heard anything from the dealer i ordered my ZX14R from .. I hope it comes in a few weeks because the air down here is just right for riding ..
No way is it going to be as bad as Roys bike to ride .. Roy bike was 1530, NO flys , no body work ect ect .. I'm sure it will be hard to ride stock wheel base , just look at the problems Ricky had using all the power in low gear ..
Let me say " it's going to be ugly for most riders " I'm betting most riders will go faster on the old ZX14 .. I'm putting myself in that " most riders " ... It will take someone with more skills than me to pull of real fast numbers at stock wheel base .. I will go fast on it , but it will take some seat time .. Hell i have not rode a bike in a very long time .. It's crazy to think i could just jump on the bike and run Rickys numbers from Vegas .. I think it will take a few trips to the track and a few street miles to get my game back ..
I know EXACTLY what you mean about being rusty.............I went to the dragstrip this past Summer for the first time in 2 years and wow was I rusty, it didnt help I was riding a SWB ZX 12 that wasnt mine and was told to "take it easy on" and had never riden at the dragstrip before..............but seat time is HUGE I was surprised how much I lost by not going to the strip for a while...............you got ALOT more seat time and skills than me so you probably wont lose as much............but I realize it makes a SIGNIFICANT difference.
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posted November 16, 2011 04:39 PM
I just watched Jeremy Teasely go 9.20 at 153mph in Bradenton in the heat on a GenII with a pipe,lowerd and foot shifted.It was on Passtime
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posted November 16, 2011 05:22 PM
I guess JT should remove his full exhuast and install a slip on, maybe he should lose some weight too, then he might be able to go 8.80's@156 like the other guy..That's what stock header SWB gen 2 busas run.
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posted November 16, 2011 05:30 PM
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I guess JT should remove his full exhuast and install a slip on, maybe he should lose some weight too, then he might be able to go 8.80's@156 like the other guy..That's what stock header SWB gen 2 busas run.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.............
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posted November 16, 2011 07:07 PM
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Have you people lost your collective minds? When Rickey won the AMA Dragbike SuperSport National Championship riding for me in 2009 it took us nearly half a season on a meticulously prepared, hand massaged RACE BIKE with over 200 dyno pulls and close to 100 drag strip passes before we could break into the 8 second zone. This was accomplished using a SuperSport spec race engine and chassis (including a $2K Dragshock) that made 204 RWHP on my dyno…. Now he rolls up on a damn-near stock show bike with billet aluminum hand grips, blinged-out front wheel, a 10 lb. billet/clear clutch cover using a make-shift ZX-10R power commander and pulls it off in a HANDFUL of passes, and you aren’t impressed?! The only thing missing from the Internet these days is a reality check button to slap some folks up the side of their heads… okay, just kidding (sort of.)
My apologies if our testing didn’t go down per the schedules of others… the reality is that ONE ZX-14R is available on the east coast and Bob Fisher from Roaring Toyz was kind enough to allow me and Rickey to borrow it for some testing. We were at a fantastic facility on one of the best prepared tracks anywhere, with a dyno on site (thanks, Hitman) --- it would have taken armed guards to keep me and Rickey away from that bike! We will be covered in snow by the time any bikes arrive to us; this testing was about gaining knowledge, plain and simple. We decided to share the live experience with all, because that’s what people prefer these days, and I hope you enjoyed the experience as much as I did.
BTW, the Roaring Toyz PROTOTYPE machine started its life at 173 RWHP on a model 250i dyno in bone stock form and is making almost 205 RWHP as we have it configured now. Take that for what it’s worth… I personally can’t wait to get my hands on the production version. Our testing isn’t finished; it’s just beginning.
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Brock....I agree with you whole heartedly! I cannot believe that all my efforts in reporting early testing of the new 14R has been met with so much criticism........ON A ZX14 FORUM! I do this and report my findings as nothing more than a courtesy! I have ABSOLUTELY nothi1ng to gain from giving what I thought were loyal 14 owners, an insight on the progression of a new model, I can see if I posted the 14's progress on a Busa forum and got all this skepticism, and downright negativity, but since I AM THE SAME PERSON WHO'S BEEN THE FACE OF THE 14 SINCE 2006, and the 1st one to ever race ,and win on a 14 in a sea of Busa's I cant see why I continue to put myself out there for MY OWN 14 riders to discredit or outright accuse me of being untrustworthy.
Most of you own a 14 now because of what I have proven to the motorcycle world or because of my credibility, but I have realized I am in a no win battle.
i will have my Production model 14 by next week, and I will mostlikely choose to not share any info or times when I do test here at my home track. it might be good for you guys to wait til you get one to see if it is truly the real deal.
What I dont understand is.........no other maufacturer has a "street cred liason" who gets a bike early and reports early performance numbers, nor do they get criticized for not having one! Suzuki doesnt care whether Busa owners get any info on performance until they are sold to the public.
Im actually sorry that i put SOOO much effort into sending a dozen emails to 1/2 dozen key Kawasaki people explaining how important it was to get me a bike for the manufacturers cup, so we can show the bike and get some real world numbers. I also said that if we did get a bike there, Ninja owners would appreciate it. They tried really hard to make it happen but the press intro is coming iat the end of November and they dont have production bikes yet, except for the few thats being used for marketing.
I reported this on november 4th and said it would be nice if they could drive one up from vegas but they cant I also said dont worry I will still have one in Valdosta, but I never said which one.
rOBERT fISHER of Roaring Toyz was nice enough to think it was important enough to me and to Kawi to take his CUSTOM bike apart and re-install stock swingarm,stock back wheel, and all just for me to have a bike to run for the finals, and THIS is what he gets as a thank you from the ZX14 community!
You guys that are dissapointed in the performance of the 14R simply dont realize that my supersport championship winning,record holding Brocks perf ZX14, had the head milled, cams degreed,ceramic trans bearings,ceramic wheel bearings,full floating break rotors,chain baked,o-rings hand removed from the chain, no dust seals on the wheels,bearings and chain lubed every run and 15 pounds of ballast to keep the front down. This state of the art massaged 09 ZX14 would run a 3.14 to 3.16 back half numbers and the new 14R with NONE of these tricks went 3.12
The championship bike ran 157, so did the 2012! Championship bike went 125 in the eighth, 2012 went 126
Championship bike made 203hp......2012.....204.8
The one thing it looks like everybody forgot is that if I put a 40 pound lighter rider on this bike like chip ellis or Jeremy teasley, the bike should run low 8.80's at 159 or 160.
I dont know what people expect or what was promised but thyat is fast as hell.
oh and my 2011 school bike runs 5.61 in the 1/8th at 64 inches with a stock clutch so the new one would probably go 5.40's and if you add a 3.12 back half that means.......8.50's!!
Either way, I'm dissapointed in you guys and more than likely done with this site..........................take care, and good luck in the future!
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posted November 16, 2011 07:30 PM
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Have you people lost your collective minds? When Rickey won the AMA Dragbike SuperSport National Championship riding for me in 2009 it took us nearly half a season on a meticulously prepared, hand massaged RACE BIKE with over 200 dyno pulls and close to 100 drag strip passes before we could break into the 8 second zone. This was accomplished using a SuperSport spec race engine and chassis (including a $2K Dragshock) that made 204 RWHP on my dyno…. Now he rolls up on a damn-near stock show bike with billet aluminum hand grips, blinged-out front wheel, a 10 lb. billet/clear clutch cover using a make-shift ZX-10R power commander and pulls it off in a HANDFUL of passes, and you aren’t impressed?! The only thing missing from the Internet these days is a reality check button to slap some folks up the side of their heads… okay, just kidding (sort of.)
My apologies if our testing didn’t go down per the schedules of others… the reality is that ONE ZX-14R is available on the east coast and Bob Fisher from Roaring Toyz was kind enough to allow me and Rickey to borrow it for some testing. We were at a fantastic facility on one of the best prepared tracks anywhere, with a dyno on site (thanks, Hitman) --- it would have taken armed guards to keep me and Rickey away from that bike! We will be covered in snow by the time any bikes arrive to us; this testing was about gaining knowledge, plain and simple. We decided to share the live experience with all, because that’s what people prefer these days, and I hope you enjoyed the experience as much as I did.
BTW, the Roaring Toyz PROTOTYPE machine started its life at 173 RWHP on a model 250i dyno in bone stock form and is making almost 205 RWHP as we have it configured now. Take that for what it’s worth… I personally can’t wait to get my hands on the production version. Our testing isn’t finished; it’s just beginning.
Brock
www.BrocksPerformance.com
Brock....I agree with you whole heartedly! I cannot believe that all my efforts in reporting early testing of the new 14R has been met with so much criticism........ON A ZX14 FORUM! I do this and report my findings as nothing more than a courtesy! I have ABSOLUTELY nothi1ng to gain from giving what I thought were loyal 14 owners, an insight on the progression of a new model, I can see if I posted the 14's progress on a Busa forum and got all this skepticism, and downright negativity, but since I AM THE SAME PERSON WHO'S BEEN THE FACE OF THE 14 SINCE 2006, and the 1st one to ever race ,and win on a 14 in a sea of Busa's I cant see why I continue to put myself out there for MY OWN 14 riders to discredit or outright accuse me of being untrustworthy.
Most of you own a 14 now because of what I have proven to the motorcycle world or because of my credibility, but I have realized I am in a no win battle.
i will have my Production model 14 by next week, and I will mostlikely choose to not share any info or times when I do test here at my home track. it might be good for you guys to wait til you get one to see if it is truly the real deal.
What I dont understand is.........no other maufacturer has a "street cred liason" who gets a bike early and reports early performance numbers, nor do they get criticized for not having one! Suzuki doesnt care whether Busa owners get any info on performance until they are sold to the public.
Im actually sorry that i put SOOO much effort into sending a dozen emails to 1/2 dozen key Kawasaki people explaining how important it was to get me a bike for the manufacturers cup, so we can show the bike and get some real world numbers. I also said that if we did get a bike there, Ninja owners would appreciate it. They tried really hard to make it happen but the press intro is coming iat the end of November and they dont have production bikes yet, except for the few thats being used for marketing.
I reported this on november 4th and said it would be nice if they could drive one up from vegas but they cant I also said dont worry I will still have one in Valdosta, but I never said which one.
rOBERT fISHER of Roaring Toyz was nice enough to think it was important enough to me and to Kawi to take his CUSTOM bike apart and re-install stock swingarm,stock back wheel, and all just for me to have a bike to run for the finals, and THIS is what he gets as a thank you from the ZX14 community!
You guys that are dissapointed in the performance of the 14R simply dont realize that my supersport championship winning,record holding Brocks perf ZX14, had the head milled, cams degreed,ceramic trans bearings,ceramic wheel bearings,full floating break rotors,chain baked,o-rings hand removed from the chain, no dust seals on the wheels,bearings and chain lubed every run and 15 pounds of ballast to keep the front down. This state of the art massaged 09 ZX14 would run a 3.14 to 3.16 back half numbers and the new 14R with NONE of these tricks went 3.12
The championship bike ran 157, so did the 2012! Championship bike went 125 in the eighth, 2012 went 126
Championship bike made 203hp......2012.....204.8
The one thing it looks like everybody forgot is that if I put a 40 pound lighter rider on this bike like chip ellis or Jeremy teasley, the bike should run low 8.80's at 159 or 160.
I dont know what people expect or what was promised but thyat is fast as hell.
oh and my 2011 school bike runs 5.61 in the 1/8th at 64 inches with a stock clutch so the new one would probably go 5.40's and if you add a 3.12 back half that means.......8.50's!!
Either way, I'm dissapointed in you guys and more than likely done with this site..........................take care, and good luck in the future!
Rickey I think any criticism was directed more towards Kawasaki than you specifically, you've been busting your ass to get info out there to us..........It seemed to me any many others though that Kawasaki lacked a coordinated and cohesive marketing plan to get real info out to those who will be shelling out 14K-15K for a new bike........No other manufacturer has a front person like you who could have got real info out to people who are actually shelling out their money or thinking of buying this bike...........it just seems to me that Kawasaki botched a great opportunity to use you to get real world info and hard numbers out to its enthusiastic fan base.........that and the fact that with all the cloak and dagger super secret crap it seems they are almost reluctant to put real world numbers out there.............If this bike is the real deal like it seems why the hell not put real world numbers and comparisons to both the Busa and Gen 1 both at the strip and the dyno out there for everyone to see.
All the numbers we have gotten like the dyno numbers, and dragstrip numbers seem to lack context since no Gen 1 Zx 14's and Busa's were given on the same day to give us a baseline for comparison to judge how big a step forward the new bike is and how much it raises the bar............as for the Roaring Toys bike I'm sure many appreciate both RT's, Brock and you putting those numbers out there but were a little disapointed a stocker wasnt tested to give us an idea what the bike WE would be buying is like.
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posted November 16, 2011 08:19 PM
 Edited By: smokinZX14 on 17 Nov 2011 04:40
Ricky we thanked Roaring Toyz for the info. ..It was very nice of him to let you ride the wheels off his show bike . We also thanked Brock for spending all his time tunning the bike... And you are right , you didn't say what zx14 you were bringing to Ga .. I think we were all hoping that it would be a bike like you used in Vegas .. Myself i wanted to see the same bike or one set up just like the Vegas bike run in Ga on pump gas like Vegas .. I feel the bike used in Vegas would have been a tenth and a half to two tenths faster run in Ga . I would have been Happy as hell if the bike with stock pipes on pump gas ran 9.teens or twentys... A lot of guys on Bikeland have money down on a New ZX14R and that includes me . We have dropped close to 15K on the new ZX14R and that is a lot of cash to blindly drop on something we know little about .. We are going to race them as well as drive them on the street .. We are not Pro Drag races and most of us will not use MR9 or MR12 high priced fuels ..
Ricky i know we ask a lot of you and Brock and some of us seem to be a little ungreatfull at times . Understand we are loyal ZX14 owners , some of us are on our 3rd zx14 .. We fight an up hill battle of words from Busa owners trashing our bikes .. No matter how fast the New ZX14 is the Busa guys will say they run faster on a stock Gen 1 busa .. I know you don't see or hear this stuff but we do .. This is why your testing of the ZX14 is so important to us ....
Ricky I'm asking that you over look some of the venting that goes on here , nobody is mad at you , nobody here hates you ... It's just Venting about the way Kawi has handled the release of the new ZX14 ..We understand kawi would not give you a bike to test for Ga and you did the next best thing using Roaring Toyz bike ..Everybody here thanks your for what you have done for ZX14 owners...
So i ask for myself and the members of Bikeland when you get your ZX14R and start testing it please keep us in the loop..
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posted November 16, 2011 08:26 PM
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i will have my Production model 14 by next week, and I will mostlikely choose to not share any info or times when I do test here at my home track. it might be good for you guys to wait til you get one to see if it is truly the real deal.
Either way, I'm dissapointed in you guys and more than likely done with this site..........................take care, and good luck in the future!
All people here have wanted was information on a production bike. Now that will be possible soon, If you choose not to share info, it will hurt you (and Kawasaki) more than it will (some of) the people on this board, IMHO.
Whether your efforts (and Brock's and Robert's) had your direct intended results is beside the point - this is a discussion board, and your real-time information generated a lot of , err, uh, DISCUSSION! This thread, as I type this, has had 4366 views. For every person that posted, good or bad, there were probably 10 or 20 lurking and taking all this in. Bottom line, your efforts probably had a very big, positive impact.
If I haven't mentioned it, I'm buying one anyway ............................ I KNOW it's the REAL DEAL!
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posted November 16, 2011 08:38 PM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 17 Nov 2011 04:46
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i will have my Production model 14 by next week, and I will mostlikely choose to not share any info or times when I do test here at my home track. it might be good for you guys to wait til you get one to see if it is truly the real deal.
Either way, I'm dissapointed in you guys and more than likely done with this site..........................take care, and good luck in the future!
All people here have wanted was information on a production bike. Now that will be possible soon, If you choose not to share info, it will hurt you (and Kawasaki) more than it will (some of) the people on this board, IMHO.
Whether your efforts (and Brock's and Robert's) had your direct intended results is beside the point - this is a discussion board, and your real-time information generated a lot of , err, uh, DISCUSSION! This thread, as I type this, has had 4366 views. For every person that posted, good or bad, there were probably 10 or 20 lurking and taking all this in. Bottom line, your efforts probably had a very big, positive impact.
If I haven't mentioned it, I'm buying one anyway ............................ I KNOW it's the REAL DEAL!
Lucky is right ..Press good or bad is still press ...Just ask Hollywood ... Busa and other brand owners are here lurking and reading about the new ZX14R .. I know at least 10 here have money down on the new ZX14R and mostlikely many many more that we don't know about ..Your testing and these threads keep the Buzz going about the new bike ..
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posted November 16, 2011 08:45 PM
Well I for one can see where rickey feels that way and is probably about had enough. He did what he could do and it also says something for roaring toyz to re set up a custom bike they had a big tire kit on just so we could see some numbers. Thanks to both Rickey and roaring toyz
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posted November 16, 2011 09:41 PM
Rickey- I knew after I saw the vegas vids and the 9.31 and .34 passes at nearly 150 that the bike was the real thing. I' m big on the DA stuff and I know first hand how it works.
I also want to say that the Kawasaki add on the 14R with all the vids, side by side testing with the Busa and the fact that this bike is being promoted by you and with drag racing as the theme- man, I' m actually pretty damn impressed that Kawasaki let you do it like that. By far the best advertized release of a sport bike I have seen. I mean from Kawasaki and all about the 1/4 mile. I will be honest, that's alot better then having commercials about it being a great riding sport touring bike. I'm sitting here with an 06 ZX14 with a blown motor and all I' m thinkin about is what should I save and put on the new 14R.
It's the year 2000 again, but this time it's for real.
Thanks again for posting the release of the 14R, I stole half the vids and put them up on my FB 
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posted November 16, 2011 10:39 PM
Thanks for the info Rickey and TRUST me every ZX-14 member on this forum really appreciates the info that you give and release. They just "READ" into it toooooo much. If it wasn't for the info that you have given I, probably would not be getting a 2012 ZX-14R. Thanks Again !!!!
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posted November 16, 2011 10:39 PM
Edited By: MotoCycho on 17 Nov 2011 06:43
Rickey,
I can't speak for anyone but me. I have been fully impressed with the entire marketing and testing campaign that you and Kawasaki have brought to us about the 14r. You have been very professional and concise. Roaring Toyz and Brock have been great too. Please don't stop posting here. This is the best place to reach current and future zx-14 owners... especially racers. I would bet more people read this then just folks that post.
BTW, I will be getting a 14r, and partially due to your efforts and sharing it with us.
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posted November 17, 2011 12:32 AM
SEE WHAT YOU SUCKERS DID.. you ran Rickey off...LOL Serious tho... Rickey we appreciate your efforts and if you can look pass some of the built up frustration because we are passionate about our 2's (I bet some of these guys wear motorcycle boats to chruch...now that's love) we would like to see the progression of this Flagship machine. I will admit that I stop watching TV cause this drama has been so funny lol... and with all these views somebody's getting paid ( I'm surprised it stayed on the subject). For the guys that put down thier money on a bike that HASN'T HIT THE STREETS YET because you "Gotta have the 1st"... you should be thanking Rickey, Brock and RT because their testing and posting the results should have COMFIRMED to you to GET your $$$ back and wait or NOT....The complaining and attacking someone's integrity is serious and now we might have to wait even longer for testing result from the best.. especially when they owe us NOTHING...I'm glad they gave us Kaw fans something to talk about...Hell, Basket Ball season looks like a wash, so keeping up with some real world results over the winter would be nice, so when we hit the streets and tracks next summer we can have that smeark on our faces because we know we can talk shit cause that ZX14R will be delivering (or not)!!! I would like to thank KAW as well even tho alot of people in here think they advertised the bike bad. Kawasaki Heavy Industies is so huge that they don't need a motorcycle devision!!! They only started making motorcycles to get Brand recongition which they have done WELL! There is most likey a Kawasaki product in every household just to give you the scope of the size of this company! SO Rickey and Brock we hope you Guys reconsidered and post your results.. Then sit back and enjoy the show as we go into a freezy taking in that info and watch the views go through the roof (Hint..Hint make an advertisment deal...son)!! My bike brothers take care and keep the shiney side up!!!!
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posted November 17, 2011 01:28 AM
Edited By: BobC on 17 Nov 2011 09:32
Rickey and Brock, I'm sure that it will take a whole lot more than a few negative comments on the internet to beat you guys. We Kawasaki fans really appreciate reading about your experiences with the new 14R. Please do keep us informed of progress and pay no attention to those ignorant people, otherwise they've won - and none of us want that.
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posted November 17, 2011 02:29 AM
Edited By: Rideharder on 17 Nov 2011 11:29
This is where I give smokinZX14 a lot of credit because he is able to overcome the criticism and push on with his research and to allow his Internet fan base to know the real ins and outs of his accomplishments on the zx14.
Actually, I would say what we would really need to do this is my opinion but there's a lot of people that will be judgmental about this.
First of all we all know smokinZX14 is one of the all-around track guys and what we need is no smoking mirrors and I believe if everybody would be willing to donate $20 every six months to allow him to have his own personal thread that only donators could access it. This would be an incentive for him to stay neutral and to give everybody the correct information that they are asking for and allow him financially to be able to go out and do the research and development without breaking his bank. I'm willing to pay for VIP membership of $20 every six months to have access to the information once he receives the new 2012 ZX14R model.
Ricky mentioned because of him a lot of us own a ZX14..
Actually I really didn't know much about Ricky, so that's not the reason I own one..
Now about Brock and Roaring Toyz in the short period of time that I did my research and information I have received so far off this message board makes me feel really confident on buying something from them. It feels like my money is well worth their research and development, because of the devotion that they put in their products which matters to me..
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cruiserman_83
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posted November 17, 2011 02:52 AM
I appreciate your efforts Rickey. Ignore the rest of them. I have to wait till january here in australia for the bike to be released and stepping up from 03 zx12, its going to be fucking fantastic. Everyone keeps forgetting that the bike you were testing isnt a race prepped bike. Its a STREET bike. I dont plan on drag racing my 14r. Nearest track is 300km awah. Half the fun is getting there! And as for your bitching about 15k for the bike, retail will be round 20k here in oz. It aint going to stop me. Rickey and Brock, i hope you keep develement of your exhaust system going. I dont want to leave the dealership in jan/feb with those flotation de icrs on it.......thanks again
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Famous1
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posted November 17, 2011 04:52 AM
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This is where I give smokinZX14 a lot of credit because he is able to overcome the criticism and push on with his research and to allow his Internet fan base to know the real ins and outs of his accomplishments on the zx14.
Actually, I would say what we would really need to do this is my opinion but there's a lot of people that will be judgmental about this.
First of all we all know smokinZX14 is one of the all-around track guys and what we need is no smoking mirrors and I believe if everybody would be willing to donate $20 every six months to allow him to have his own personal thread that only donators could access it. This would be an incentive for him to stay neutral and to give everybody the correct information that they are asking for and allow him financially to be able to go out and do the research and development without breaking his bank. I'm willing to pay for VIP membership of $20 every six months to have access to the information once he receives the new 2012 ZX14R model.
Ricky mentioned because of him a lot of us own a ZX14..
Actually I really didn't know much about Ricky, so that's not the reason I own one..
Now about Brock and Roaring Toyz in the short period of time that I did my research and information I have received so far off this message board makes me feel really confident on buying something from them. It feels like my money is well worth their research and development, because of the devotion that they put in their products which matters to me..
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.....
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CajunBoyz
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posted November 17, 2011 04:54 AM
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Have you people lost your collective minds? When Rickey won the AMA Dragbike SuperSport National Championship riding for me in 2009 it took us nearly half a season on a meticulously prepared, hand massaged RACE BIKE with over 200 dyno pulls and close to 100 drag strip passes before we could break into the 8 second zone. This was accomplished using a SuperSport spec race engine and chassis (including a $2K Dragshock) that made 204 RWHP on my dyno…. Now he rolls up on a damn-near stock show bike with billet aluminum hand grips, blinged-out front wheel, a 10 lb. billet/clear clutch cover using a make-shift ZX-10R power commander and pulls it off in a HANDFUL of passes, and you aren’t impressed?! The only thing missing from the Internet these days is a reality check button to slap some folks up the side of their heads… okay, just kidding (sort of.)
My apologies if our testing didn’t go down per the schedules of others… the reality is that ONE ZX-14R is available on the east coast and Bob Fisher from Roaring Toyz was kind enough to allow me and Rickey to borrow it for some testing. We were at a fantastic facility on one of the best prepared tracks anywhere, with a dyno on site (thanks, Hitman) --- it would have taken armed guards to keep me and Rickey away from that bike! We will be covered in snow by the time any bikes arrive to us; this testing was about gaining knowledge, plain and simple. We decided to share the live experience with all, because that’s what people prefer these days, and I hope you enjoyed the experience as much as I did.
BTW, the Roaring Toyz PROTOTYPE machine started its life at 173 RWHP on a model 250i dyno in bone stock form and is making almost 205 RWHP as we have it configured now. Take that for what it’s worth… I personally can’t wait to get my hands on the production version. Our testing isn’t finished; it’s just beginning.
Brock
www.BrocksPerformance.com
Brock....I agree with you whole heartedly! I cannot believe that all my efforts in reporting early testing of the new 14R has been met with so much criticism........ON A ZX14 FORUM! I do this and report my findings as nothing more than a courtesy! I have ABSOLUTELY nothi1ng to gain from giving what I thought were loyal 14 owners, an insight on the progression of a new model, I can see if I posted the 14's progress on a Busa forum and got all this skepticism, and downright negativity, but since I AM THE SAME PERSON WHO'S BEEN THE FACE OF THE 14 SINCE 2006, and the 1st one to ever race ,and win on a 14 in a sea of Busa's I cant see why I continue to put myself out there for MY OWN 14 riders to discredit or outright accuse me of being untrustworthy.
Most of you own a 14 now because of what I have proven to the motorcycle world or because of my credibility, but I have realized I am in a no win battle.
i will have my Production model 14 by next week, and I will mostlikely choose to not share any info or times when I do test here at my home track. it might be good for you guys to wait til you get one to see if it is truly the real deal.
What I dont understand is.........no other maufacturer has a "street cred liason" who gets a bike early and reports early performance numbers, nor do they get criticized for not having one! Suzuki doesnt care whether Busa owners get any info on performance until they are sold to the public.
Im actually sorry that i put SOOO much effort into sending a dozen emails to 1/2 dozen key Kawasaki people explaining how important it was to get me a bike for the manufacturers cup, so we can show the bike and get some real world numbers. I also said that if we did get a bike there, Ninja owners would appreciate it. They tried really hard to make it happen but the press intro is coming iat the end of November and they dont have production bikes yet, except for the few thats being used for marketing.
I reported this on november 4th and said it would be nice if they could drive one up from vegas but they cant I also said dont worry I will still have one in Valdosta, but I never said which one.
rOBERT fISHER of Roaring Toyz was nice enough to think it was important enough to me and to Kawi to take his CUSTOM bike apart and re-install stock swingarm,stock back wheel, and all just for me to have a bike to run for the finals, and THIS is what he gets as a thank you from the ZX14 community!
You guys that are dissapointed in the performance of the 14R simply dont realize that my supersport championship winning,record holding Brocks perf ZX14, had the head milled, cams degreed,ceramic trans bearings,ceramic wheel bearings,full floating break rotors,chain baked,o-rings hand removed from the chain, no dust seals on the wheels,bearings and chain lubed every run and 15 pounds of ballast to keep the front down. This state of the art massaged 09 ZX14 would run a 3.14 to 3.16 back half numbers and the new 14R with NONE of these tricks went 3.12
The championship bike ran 157, so did the 2012! Championship bike went 125 in the eighth, 2012 went 126
Championship bike made 203hp......2012.....204.8
The one thing it looks like everybody forgot is that if I put a 40 pound lighter rider on this bike like chip ellis or Jeremy teasley, the bike should run low 8.80's at 159 or 160.
I dont know what people expect or what was promised but thyat is fast as hell.
oh and my 2011 school bike runs 5.61 in the 1/8th at 64 inches with a stock clutch so the new one would probably go 5.40's and if you add a 3.12 back half that means.......8.50's!!
Either way, I'm dissapointed in you guys and more than likely done with this site..........................take care, and good luck in the future!
Rickey I've seen all of what you just wrote & AGREED. This 14R will be a BEAST when you & Brock massage it out !!! Kaw put a nice platform there to work with...
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1badzx12r
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posted November 17, 2011 04:58 AM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 17 Nov 2011 13:13
drama drama drama .. i didn't know this was about rickey but about Kawasaki zx14r that really didn't set any outstanding numbers like everyone was lead to believe .. SO lets not compare the zx14r to a gen2 busa that ran same day, same time, same air, same location... because somebody gonna get butt hurt it didn't get beat by 3 tenths and 5 mph.... but instead we'll believe anything thats told to us like good little zx14 owners and keep our mouths shut ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DB0ejbV1zY&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL04C5CCD771C928E4
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