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frEEk


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posted November 15, 2011 11:38 AM        
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Have you people lost your collective minds? and you aren’t impressed?!



no

and NO .. NOT FOR 15,000.00 +++++++++++++++++!


but some people got more money than brains


so why don't u buy a late 80s something or other and spend the 14,000 diff on a massive turbo setup instead and get even more power?

these arguments over price are pretty stupid. you are buying a new bike. it will cost more because it is a new bike. it isn't an old bike. it hasn't been used, and it will have better resale than an old bike. this is consumerism 101... no, make that Grade 1.
As to the bellyaching on price... it is a $1100 increase over last year. Partially because you are getting more, but I would suggest mostly due to economy. Seriously, did you think this was going to be cheaper than last years' bike? Or even the same? Have you seen the US $ recently?

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smokinZX14


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posted November 15, 2011 11:53 AM        
I would have rather waited and had the testing done on a production bike .. Even if the production bike was slower at least we would know what we are getting .. I also wanted the bike tested on pump gas before the MR12 ..Most of use don't want and will never run that pricey fuel .. What i was asking for was what Brock did back in 06 with the first zx14 .. Ricky said that was what he was going to do .. I get it , Ricky nor Brock could get a production bike ..I feel they should have waited untill they could get one to test .. I wanted to see what this bike could do with stock exhaust with a strap and lowered at sea level and not 2100 feet like Vegas .. Then add all the mods you want and post the numbers ..
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blackbullet76


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posted November 15, 2011 11:56 AM        
How did Roaring Toyz get a 2012 model? Are they teamed up with Kawasaki?

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Bently


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posted November 15, 2011 11:56 AM        
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I would have rather waited and had the testing done on a production bike .. Even if the production bike was slower at least we would know what we are getting .. I also wanted the bike tested on pump gas before the MR12 ..Most of use don't want and will never run that pricey fuel .. What i was asking for was what Brock did back in 06 with the first zx14 .. Ricky said that was what he was going to do .. I get it , Ricky nor Brock could get a production bike ..I feel they should have waited untill they could get one to test .. I wanted to see what this bike could do with stock exhaust with a strap and lowered at sea level and not 2100 feet like Vegas .. Then add all the mods you want and post the numbers ..


+1 on mr12 to rich for my blood when I make 25 passes on a friday night 3 times a month, but I was told i wasn't serious if I'm not running that fuel. No I'm more serious about my racing then probably anyone on here and just want to go as fast as I can on pump gas.

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smokinZX14


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posted November 15, 2011 12:15 PM        
For under 15k here is what i'm getting ..

1441 cc , better head , bigger cams , stronger frame , revalved shocks ,better aerodynamics , two fans , More wheel base , Heat off my legs , nicer looks and a hole lot of things i'll never use .. You never know , i might use them ..
The things i hope i get are the most powerfull and fastest production bike ever .. 9.31 @ 149 at 2100 feet tells me i might just get that ..
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smokinZX14


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posted November 15, 2011 12:50 PM        

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Lucky14


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posted November 15, 2011 01:03 PM        
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For under 15k here is what i'm getting ..

1441 cc , better head , bigger cams , stronger frame , revalved shocks ,better aerodynamics , two fans , More wheel base , Heat off my legs , nicer looks and a hole lot of things i'll never use .. You never know , i might use them ..
The things i hope i get are the most powerfull and fastest production bike ever .. 9.31 @ 149 at 2100 feet tells me i might just get that ..


Ya beat me to it!

Also, dont' forget these improvements:

Oil Drain plug relocated.

Can regear to any sprockets and the speedo is still correct.

Engine temp reads in degrees and not 3 bars, 4 bars .............

2nd Cooling Fan.

No ABS!

Lighter wheels.

Break it down and all this for $1100 more then last year's model?
Sounds like a BARGAIN to me!

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smokinZX14


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posted November 15, 2011 01:15 PM        
quote:
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For under 15k here is what i'm getting ..

1441 cc , better head , bigger cams , stronger frame , revalved shocks ,better aerodynamics , two fans , More wheel base , Heat off my legs , nicer looks and a hole lot of things i'll never use .. You never know , i might use them ..
The things i hope i get are the most powerfull and fastest production bike ever .. 9.31 @ 149 at 2100 feet tells me i might just get that ..


Ya beat me to it!

Also, dont' forget these improvements:

Oil Drain plug relocated.

Can regear to any sprockets and the speedo is still correct.

Engine temp reads in degrees and not 3 bars, 4 bars .............

2nd Cooling Fan.

No ABS!

Lighter wheels.

Break it down and all this for $1100 more then last year's model?
Sounds like a BARGAIN to me!

Forgot about that drain plug .. That is a big plus ..
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1badzx12r


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posted November 15, 2011 01:23 PM        Edited By: 1badzx12r on 15 Nov 2011 21:25
quote:
quote:
quote:
Have you people lost your collective minds? and you aren’t impressed?!



no

and NO .. NOT FOR 15,000.00 +++++++++++++++++!


but some people got more money than brains


so why don't u buy a late 80s something or other and spend the 14,000 diff on a massive turbo setup instead and get even more power?

these arguments over price are pretty stupid. you are buying a new bike. it will cost more because it is a new bike. it isn't an old bike. it hasn't been used, and it will have better resale than an old bike. this is consumerism 101... no, make that Grade 1.
As to the bellyaching on price... it is a $1100 increase over last year. Partially because you are getting more, but I would suggest mostly due to economy. Seriously, did you think this was going to be cheaper than last years' bike? Or even the same? Have you seen the US $ recently?


no i'll just buy 1 of mikey slowes bikes and ain't no 15,000.00 zx14r will touch it ..and resale on new bike suxs dog dicks ..
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GREYHOUNDMOSES


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posted November 15, 2011 01:23 PM        
Thanks for posting the video Lee.
Does anybody else hear something strange going on in the first sixty foot?

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smokinZX14


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posted November 15, 2011 01:25 PM        
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Thanks for posting the video Lee.
Does anybody else hear something strange going on in the first sixty foot?

Yes i heard that also .. Not sure what to make of it ..
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kaw now


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posted November 15, 2011 01:26 PM        
Does that come with a factory warranty? FWIW
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Bently


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posted November 15, 2011 02:22 PM        
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Thanks for posting the video Lee.
Does anybody else hear something strange going on in the first sixty foot?

Yes i heard that also .. Not sure what to make of it ..


Sounds like hes working the clutch or gas to keep the front end down to me.

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smokinZX14


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posted November 15, 2011 02:24 PM        Edited By: smokinZX14 on 15 Nov 2011 22:24
Screw it i'm getting a 08 busa .. I just heard about a guy that runs 8.85 @ 157 stock wheel base with nothing but a slip on muffler ... I can buy one for 6500 bucks and just toss a cheap ass slip on and go faster than the new ZX14R ..
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1badzx12r


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posted November 15, 2011 02:35 PM        Edited By: 1badzx12r on 15 Nov 2011 22:44
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Screw it I'm getting a 08 busa .. I just heard about a guy that runs 8.85 @ 157 stock wheel base with nothing but a slip on muffler ... I can buy one for 6500 bucks and just toss a cheap ass slip on and go faster than the new ZX14R ..



apples to apples that day Rickey zx14r 8.99 156mph .. Brandon 08 busa 8.85@157mph ..that why I'm not impressed wit the zx14r .. oh and don't forget Leonidas stock motor gen 1 zx14 160mph .. ninjaboys zx14 ran what 150+mph with a 200lb rider.. the zx14r should be running 165mph like roys bike ..

i've race that kid alot and i know for a fact he cuts better than 1.50 60ft's on that stock wheel base bike .. and he's what about 40lbs lighter
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mathews


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posted November 15, 2011 02:35 PM        
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Screw it i'm getting a 08 busa .. I just heard about a guy that runs 8.85 @ 157 stock wheel base with nothing but a slip on muffler ... I can buy one for 6500 bucks and just toss a cheap ass slip on and go faster than the new ZX14R ..
I see it run almost every weekend.He won street e.t Sunday at the MFG cup

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kaw now


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posted November 15, 2011 02:50 PM        
I want what you guys are smoking no pun intended.
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smokinZX14


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posted November 15, 2011 02:55 PM        
Gen 2 Busa ,Stock wheel base , stock motor , slip on muffler ..









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dakota9498


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posted November 15, 2011 02:57 PM        
All Busas at the track are stock motor, I thought you guys knew that?!
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smokinZX14


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posted November 15, 2011 02:58 PM        
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I want what you guys are smoking no pun intended.
We are smoking this guys exhaust pipe by the time tickets he posted ..


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frEEk


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posted November 15, 2011 03:01 PM        
so smokinZX14, you're saying you would have preferred if Gadson and Brock had not told anyone what they ran on what they could get? They should have kept it to themselves and sworn anyone who was there that day to secrecy until production bike numbers were available?

I'm sure you can see where i'm getting with this.

I know it isn't the numbers people want, but the numbers we want are simply NOT AVAILABLE. I swear most of y'all must have been married too long. You're using woman's logic.

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Bently


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posted November 15, 2011 03:03 PM        
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I want what you guys are smoking no pun intended.
We are smoking this guys exhaust pipe by the time tickets he posted ..




Those look just like my buddy's time tickets on his stock motor 08 busa which is 64 inches and vance and hines side winder and light wheels and light battery and he is 160 unsuited. on pump gas. a new 14r set up the same way will kill that.

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smokinZX14


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posted November 15, 2011 03:04 PM        Edited By: smokinZX14 on 15 Nov 2011 23:13
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so smokinZX14, you're saying you would have preferred if Gadson and Brock had not told anyone what they ran on what they could get? They should have kept it to themselves and sworn anyone who was there that day to secrecy until production bike numbers were available?

I'm sure you can see where i'm getting with this.

I know it isn't the numbers people want, but the numbers we want are simply NOT AVAILABLE. I swear most of y'all must have been married too long. You're using woman's logic.
No , I'm saying they should NOT have run THAT bike at all .. That is pretty clear is it not ..
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1badzx12r


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posted November 15, 2011 03:12 PM        Edited By: 1badzx12r on 15 Nov 2011 23:21
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Good run








hell even i can see where he got the ET from .he was a tenth faster by the 330 and ran it out ..



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Bently


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posted November 15, 2011 03:37 PM        
I will go on record and say it very well could be easier to go faster on a gen 2 busa or a gen 1 14 at swb for the average rider, a 1441 bike at swb is going to be hard to 330 for most guys. very few will get the job done well
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