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posted November 20, 2011 05:33 PM
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Actually its Ricky Kay who drove over 1000 miles and got beat by someone who wasnt in eliminations
reginald harper sure was in eliminations .. if olde reggie would have won i wonder who would of got the check ..
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posted November 20, 2011 05:46 PM
And who the hell is reginald harper? thought the bike was robert fishers?
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posted November 20, 2011 06:32 PM
I have the elimination sheets and bike #62 was teched in by Reginald Harper.The mystery deepens.
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posted November 20, 2011 07:00 PM
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Actually its Ricky Kay who drove over 1000 miles and got beat by someone who wasnt in eliminations
ouch, did they think they could get away with that? That's a long drive to get cheated.
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posted November 20, 2011 07:07 PM
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Actually its Ricky Kay who drove over 1000 miles and got beat by someone who wasnt in eliminations
ouch, did they think they could get away with that? That's a long drive to get cheated.
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and your pissed at SAR over a time trail ..
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posted November 20, 2011 07:24 PM
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Actually its Ricky Kay who drove over 1000 miles and got beat by someone who wasnt in eliminations
ouch, did they think they could get away with that? That's a long drive to get cheated.
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and your pissed at SAR over a time trail ..
HAR rented SAR, thats the first HAR race I went to that didn't have tnt, Wayne said he could do nothing about the owner being a jerk, now back to the dogpile.
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posted November 20, 2011 07:36 PM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 21 Nov 2011 03:45
well i went to a PMRA race and they canceled TNT after collecting entries to the class .. kept your entry and said sorry not enough entries to have a TNT.. Enter into another class to TNT on time trials ..
HAR was gonna have a shootout of all the years winners .. been a planned event for a year and advertised Race of Champions..well after 12hrs of grudge racing at this event only ..they final got the race started at midnight.. only around 8 guys stayed and waited to race out of 40..
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posted November 20, 2011 07:45 PM
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Actually its Ricky Kay who drove over 1000 miles and got beat by someone who wasnt in eliminations
Expain this to me like I'm a 5 year old.
Ricky Kay's opponent, no matter who it was, ran 4 TENTHs, an eternity, over his dial, and got the win light?
Did Kay red light? If so, he beat himself.
Did Kay have a RT of a half second? If so, hard to believe, but he beat himself.
Hard to read the numbers, but it looked like Kay was 'baggin real bad and got off the gas, but not enough. If so, again, he beat himself.
Can someone that was there explain what REALLY happened. Did it matter who was on the 14R in the other lane??? Did Teasley really "beat" Kay???
I know, "technically" .......................
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posted November 20, 2011 07:50 PM
Lee,
If your comments were ment for everyone, then you should have said so... You actually called me out. Personally it bothers me a bit, because I felt we were better than that.... eitherway it's all good.
As for Rg, I wasn't there, but from the video posted it's easy to understand why he did what he did. He is correct, as long as AMA Drag racing has been around it never blossimed and recieve the coverage it deserves. Now that it's gone and the only remaining venue is the MiRock Series.... I guess that will go away soon.
I do feel for the fellow racer that was matched up against Rg, however for the betterment of the sport or anything special there must be sacrafices.... now would the guy beat Rickey G... 50/50 chance.
Many bracket racers sand bag anyway.... so does it really make a difference? It is really worth all the disfunctionalitiy that has pushed this blog to 14 pages?
I am getting my 14R regardless of how fast anyone else can go on the bike. I purchased my previous two 14's, all of my zx10s (all generations) regardless of what someone else has done..... I have always gotten the new gens..... why stop now, plus I really like the bike.
I know I am not going to run as fast as the smaller racers, but I can handle my own within my weight class, foot shifting on short bikes.
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posted November 20, 2011 07:58 PM
This explanation from Tim Hailey (link above) puts a new slant on all the Gadson-bashing chaeating talk:
"Rickey was clearly in violation of the rules, but was he trying to gain a competitive advantage? Common sense (and watching the video) will tell you “no.” We know instinctively that Rickey is merely seeking that promotional advantage I spoke of earlier, and we know by the video that Rickey instructs Teasley to “run it out the back door no matter what.”
The round was his if he’d paid attention to Jeremy wearing leathers clearly marked “Teasley” and Rickey standing alongside the bike at the line. No attempt was made to deceive, but to merely run the bike down the track.
So was Plaxico Burress in violation of New York City gun laws when he accidently shot himself in the leg at a Manhattan nightclub? Clearly. But was he attempting to commit the crime that the law is in place to prevent? That is, was he trying to rob the nightclub? Clearly not. Was Rickey in violation of the rules? Clearly. Was he trying to gain a competitive edge with his rules violation? That is, was he trying to “cheat?” Clearly not."
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posted November 20, 2011 07:59 PM
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Actually its Ricky Kay who drove over 1000 miles and got beat by someone who wasnt in eliminations
Expain this to me like I'm a 5 year old.
Ricky Kay's opponent, no matter who it was, ran 4 TENTHs, an eternity, over his dial, and got the win light?
Did Kay red light? If so, he beat himself.
Did Kay have a RT of a half second? If so, hard to believe, but he beat himself.
Hard to read the numbers, but it looked like Kay was 'baggin real bad and got off the gas, but not enough. If so, again, he beat himself.
Can someone that was there explain what REALLY happened. Did it matter who was on the 14R in the other lane??? Did Teasley really "beat" Kay???
I know, "technically" .......................
looks like he went a 9.83 on a 9.90....
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posted November 20, 2011 08:00 PM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 21 Nov 2011 04:05
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Many bracket racers sand bag anyway.... so does it really make a difference? It is really worth all the disfunctionalitiy that has pushed this blog to 14 pages?
it is if you bracket race and somebody thinks that your sportsman class is a joke and nothing but a TNT session for the privilege ..
the reason the AMA bellied up was because they pissed on all the sportsman racers and catered to the darling pro's ... well the pro's don't pay the bills
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posted November 20, 2011 08:31 PM
Lucky and 1Badzx12R,
I must agree with both of you... the video really tells the story.... Lucky you are spot on... there was no deception at all. I would really like to hear from Ricky kay... according to what's been posted he actually beat him self.... 1k miles driven and wasted.
1Badzx12R... I use bracket events to do testing all the time. I perfer to run heads up, but will get in the event to do several things... work on my short time, make the event larger and have some fun. Earlier this year in March, I drove the 3.5 hours, paid three nights hotel fees, entered the races on both day and didn't win nothing.... wasn't upset...had a great time. I got to pit with a great group of racers.....It was worth it.... I did all of that because of my job.... I don't get to go to all the venues; I will be away for a year.... with that said, Rg is larger than that event, he is on another level. It's about furthering the sport not an individual. Now some may see him as having his own agenda, but with anything speical there must be someone to drive the car so to speak....
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posted November 20, 2011 08:37 PM
Edited By: justoyz2 on 21 Nov 2011 04:39
Since Rg was Dq'd, that automatically allowed Ricky Kay to get back in the event. So actually he should have gotten a pass by racing Rg. He broke out and should have gotten a 2nd chance... due to the DQ
So, since all many of you were there, why didn't this info get to the forum when this first was brought to our attention?
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posted November 20, 2011 08:42 PM
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with that said, Rg is larger than that event, he is on another level. It's about furthering the sport not an individual.
I've got a brilliant idea .. why don't RG buy a race track and run his own events .. I'm sure guys like you will support it ...
i'm sure the mfg cup will do fine without RG.. he said he's never coming back .. lets see if he's a liar next spring ..
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posted November 20, 2011 08:45 PM
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Since Rg was Dq'd, that automatically allowed Ricky Kay to get back in the event. So actually he should have gotten a pass by racing Rg. He broke out and should have gotten a 2nd chance... due to the DQ
So, since all many of you were there, why didn't this info get to the forum when this first was brought to our attention?
i think i was told the track officials didn't DQ until the next round was started..
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posted November 20, 2011 08:50 PM
Nah, you missed his intent.... he not going to endorse the event.... meaning he is not going to use the event as a venue for anything speical he is doing.....
I don't believe that, but as with everyone, your emotions drive your actions..... he was upset because of the track wasn't trying to support his efforts.
I just don't know many folks that has TV coverage following them around, especially a drag racer......regardless wether you like him or not, he was the only full sponsored MFG motorcycle drag racer do this date. (correct me if I am wrong)
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posted November 20, 2011 09:06 PM
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Nah, you missed his intent.... he not going to endorse the event....)
nah you missed it .. you better go back and listen .. never coming back no kind of racing .. so put the RG pecker down and unclogg your ears
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posted November 20, 2011 09:13 PM
lol... that's was funny... no pecker holder here..... just respect
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posted November 21, 2011 02:31 AM
I do understand the time issue. Leonidas was in the grudge class and he didn't get to make many passes because they would skip them.
Like Joe said, how is it fair that people that paid for test runs be denied passes, but it's ok for Ricky to make a free pass?
To most of us JUSTOYZ2, it's the principal. Ricky IS the only sponsored rider by kawi, but how in the hell does that make it ok for him to break the rules?! Get off his freakin nuts man. He was wrong and he admitted it. It's not like were accusing him of something he didn't do.
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posted November 21, 2011 03:48 AM
So what RG made a mistake, some of you guys really like dishing it out , what have you done for dragracing, we all know RG is not a cheater so stop the bashing.
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posted November 21, 2011 04:32 AM
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So what RG made a mistake, some of you guys really like dishing it out , what have you done for dragracing, we all know RG is not a cheater so stop the bashing.
If he is not a cheater why did he get DQed?
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posted November 21, 2011 04:57 AM
Mathews are saying RG is a cheater,he explained what he did and he got DQed.I don't think he would be 7 or 8 times w/champion if he was a cheater,how many championships have you won and have you never made any mistakes at the track.
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posted November 21, 2011 05:21 AM
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If he is not a cheater why did he get DQed?
What I object to is the word "cheater" in an attempt to discredit Gadson more than he should be.
"Cheater" implies that Gadson did something sneaky to gain an advantage to win the round or win the race. That clearly was not his intent, as the quote from Tim Hailey above explains.
I agree that Gadson was in violation of the rules. However, he does not deserve the label of "cheater."
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posted November 21, 2011 05:39 AM
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If he is not a cheater why did he get DQed?
What I object to is the word "cheater" in an attempt to discredit Gadson more than he should be.
"Cheater" implies that Gadson did something sneaky to gain an advantage to win the round or win the race. That clearly was not his intent, as the quote from Tim Hailey above explains.
I agree that Gadson was in violation of the rules. However, he does not deserve the label of "cheater."
did Teasley win the street et?
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