1badzx12r
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posted October 10, 2011 09:03 AM
 Edited By: 1badzx12r on 10 Oct 2011 17:03
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I fail to see where you got '50lb heavier' from. I read 17.
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http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/kawasaki/kawasaki_zzr1400%2006.htm
215kg=473lbs + 50lbs for fluid = 523lbs 06 zx14
2012 Curb Weight: 584.3 lbs.
my bad 61lbs
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frEEk
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posted October 10, 2011 09:20 AM
Where you guys getting "ABS model" from? It doesn't have ABS, just traction control. ABS WILL be available in other countries I hear, oddly.
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Bently
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posted October 10, 2011 09:23 AM
ABS or not 61 lbs is enough to make it slower then the first gen. if it's really 61 lbs heavier thats going to suck bad
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Wheelie
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posted October 10, 2011 09:24 AM
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ABS or not 61 lbs is enough to make it slower then the first gen. if it's really 61 lbs heavier thats going to suck bad
gotta be from the exhaust?
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frEEk
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posted October 10, 2011 09:25 AM
It is 18lbs heavier. Where you gettin 61 from? Kawasaki.com lists curb weight of the '11 as 566.7, and the '12 comes in at 584.3
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Bently
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posted October 10, 2011 09:30 AM
18 lbs if it's exhaust would be fine.
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frEEk
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posted October 10, 2011 09:31 AM
Should be. They are "world spec" cans, so they are designed to meat the strictest emissions and sound requirements.
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GREYHOUNDMOSES
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posted October 10, 2011 09:40 AM
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Where you guys getting "ABS model" from? It doesn't have ABS, just traction control. ABS WILL be available in other countries I hear, oddly.
The pictures show an ABS ring on the front wheel.
Unless the traction control works on the front wheel too. 
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frEEk
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posted October 10, 2011 10:04 AM
front/rear wheel speed deferential is kinda important to deciding when traction control needs to kick in.
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kawboy81
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posted October 10, 2011 10:11 AM
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Hummm lied ? That has yet to be proven .. Let's wait to see what the bike does at the track .. Ugly ? Well i think it's very sharp looking .. They did what i had hoped they would by making the body lines sharper..
+1...... i agree..... that is one sexy ass bike....very well done!!!! Im def on the market for one just need to sign the paperwork lmao
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dakota9498
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posted October 10, 2011 10:43 AM
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Where you guys getting "ABS model" from? It doesn't have ABS, just traction control. ABS WILL be available in other countries I hear, oddly.
The pictures show an ABS ring on the front wheel.
Unless the traction control works on the front wheel too.
It needs something to compare to. If the back is spinning the same as the front, no traction control needed. If the back is spinning faster, traction control needed.
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1badzx12r
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posted October 10, 2011 11:41 AM
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It is 18lbs heavier. Where you gettin 61 from? Kawasaki.com lists curb weight of the '11 as 566.7, and the '12 comes in at 584.3
my 06 with a turbo hanging off it and 3gal gas is 530lbs ..
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Jamesfs912
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posted October 10, 2011 12:04 PM
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It is 18lbs heavier. Where you gettin 61 from? Kawasaki.com lists curb weight of the '11 as 566.7, and the '12 comes in at 584.3
my 06 with a turbo hanging off it and 3gal gas is 530lbs ..
Stock exhaust is much heavier than a turbo.
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dhobbs74
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posted October 10, 2011 12:36 PM
Kawasaki didn't lie, you guys did just like you do every year. Before the new model year comes out you start making up stories and believing in your own fantasies as to what you want the bike to be. Then when it comes out not to be what you wanted, you get upset. Next year just wait until the dam bike is unveiled and then see how you like it.
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GREYHOUNDMOSES
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posted October 10, 2011 12:45 PM
Bike has now appeared on Kawasaki UK website.
Kerbside weight is up 7kg from 2011 (around 15 1/2 lb)
I can see a large chunk of this being in those HUGE new silencers.
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1badzx12r
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posted October 10, 2011 01:52 PM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 10 Oct 2011 21:54
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It is 18lbs heavier. Where you gettin 61 from? Kawasaki.com lists curb weight of the '11 as 566.7, and the '12 comes in at 584.3
my 06 with a turbo hanging off it and 3gal gas is 530lbs ..
Stock exhaust is much heavier than a turbo.
no its not much heavier..
1 stock can weighs 13lbs
my turbo weigh is 16lbs header and exhaust, heavy wall stainless tube
now count external fuel pump, wideband, pc3, shiftbox, air compressor, heavier battery with 300cca 12lbs ,
i am sure its a even trade off for a stock exhaust .. and if i remember right my bone stock bike tip the scales at 535lbs..
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Jamesfs912
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posted October 10, 2011 02:43 PM
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1 stock can weighs 13lbs
my turbo weigh is 16lbs header and exhaust, heavy wall stainless tube
now count external fuel pump, wideband, pc3, shiftbox, air compressor, heavier battery with 300cca 12lbs ,
i am sure its a even trade off for a stock exhaust .. and if i remember right my bone stock bike tip the scales at 535lbs..
I'm sure this bike isn't 60 extra pounds. If you compare what they recorded as a stock zx14 weight for a gen 1 and gen 2 then the gain is only 16 lbs. But who knows until someone actually gets one.
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ninjaatnite
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posted October 10, 2011 02:53 PM
It look like the old Suzuki RF 900! I was expecting a new look.
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Shane661
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posted October 10, 2011 02:55 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 10 Oct 2011 22:57
This bike is around 30 lbs heavier, at most, than the 06-07. No stock 14 ever weighed in below 550 lbs, that is for sure.
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kaw now
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posted October 10, 2011 02:58 PM
RF 900 who ever heard of one of those. did they sell any? They did lie to you you get 3lbs of lighter wheels how much is that worth in performance and feel. OK not a lie just kept it from you.
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posted October 10, 2011 03:52 PM
The rf's were sold from 94-99 400, 600, and 900. The 900 was the Busa of it's day, it was replaced by the Busa and shared motor design. I've been saying it for years, as much as I don't like it the zx14 looks styled after it, all 3 generations lol. The wide tailsection, the fins on the side, big cc' sport touring..
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fish_antlers
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posted October 10, 2011 04:08 PM
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Where you guys getting "ABS model" from? It doesn't have ABS, just traction control. ABS WILL be available in other countries I hear, oddly.
The pictures show an ABS ring on the front wheel.
Unless the traction control works on the front wheel too.
The front ring is for traction control. On models that have abs the same sensor ring will serve the abs
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MJ
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posted October 10, 2011 04:12 PM
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Kawasaki didn't lie, you guys did just like you do every year. Before the new model year comes out you start making up stories and believing in your own fantasies as to what you want the bike to be. Then when it comes out not to be what you wanted, you get upset. Next year just wait until the dam bike is unveiled and then see how you like it.
Part of it is kawi's fault, they hype the bikes up way more than they can usually live up to. But they also know that once you hype folks up over the latest and greatest, even if its not all that when it comes out, enough people will still be hyped up and buy one. They make money regardless of whether it lives up to the hype or not. Its business and it works lol.
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ZX14Mike
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posted October 10, 2011 04:19 PM
Ever hear of the boy who cried wolf............that less than honest hype only works for so long..........till it turns people off and people stop beliving it and stop buying the bikes..........we saw that right here with the 08 hype that want really a step forward at all.
Now on the other hand delivering the goods with a big leap forward like the Busa did sells LOTS of bikes and creates a huge loyal following...........Kawasaki was almost always the clear horsepower leader till the Busa came out in 1999.........lets hope they are reclaiming their undisputed horsepower dominance!!!
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ZX14Mike
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posted October 10, 2011 04:22 PM
This seems like the real deal to me............I'll be REALLY surprised if it doesnt have 20 more RWHP!!!!!
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