posted June 07, 2011 04:36 PM
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posted June 07, 2011 06:57 PM
Whats that puff of snoke while you're sitting there waiting for a green? I understand that the exhaust tips are right there but should you see exhaust puff like that?
posted June 08, 2011 09:04 PM
Boy you fellows on this site are some tough critics. That puff of smoke is nothing wrong mechanically internal, or turbo wise for that matter. That turbo system use no pump to pull the oil from the turbo back to the pan. Simply because those little pumps can fail and shut the show down while at the track. I build my headers high enough to allow the turbo to drain oil (gravity) back to the pan, and no restrictors or check valves are used anywhere in the system to limit the oil flow. So therefore when you pull up to stage, and have a motor winging at 8000 rpm, oil pressure is extremely high at the point. So in turn, any residual oil that is in the turbine housing that has gotton pass the cartrige seal will create a puff of smoke as you see in the footage. You will also see this sometimes at the top of the track also when the throttle is chopped after a run on high power turbo bikes. And to top this all off, most of my bikes with a billett oil pans generally have about 6 quarts of oil that is nearly level with the center point of the tubo wheel. But trust me, they are reliable. The motor that we won the 2009 AMA dragbike championship (rider: John Fernandez, super-street class) with was used on into the 2010 season in the real street class until the AMA dragbike association went bankrupt. We were actually in the points lead at that point also. Guess what, that motor is still alive and kickin. Still bustin off seven second passes. We basically pull the oil pan quite often and clean the pickup of clutch material, and service it after every race or weekend of major testing. I run Motul 300v oil in most of my bikes. Typically I re-build most of my motors after a season, however the one on that bike is going to be pushed basically until she gets too lazy or pops. Simply for ducumentation and R&D purposes. If you do it right the first time, it generally pays off in the long run. Building/racing motorcycles is my love and pride. You don't get rich at this game, but the joy and excitement can make up for that.
posted June 08, 2011 11:05 PM
Chrisrok- excellent explanation! I'm a novice in this area & know minimum about proper protocol but I find this very interesting. Didn't you build this? My ultimate goal is to own & race a turbo. If I really like carving on the 14, would you recommendputting NOS or turbo? It looks like the air filter or exhaust tips might hit the concrete when leaning. What's your opinion?
Thanks in advance
posted June 09, 2011 10:56 AM
NOS or Turbo, that is a question that could surely raise a good argument, or open to a million different opinions. Here is mine though. Nos is great for a simple and cheap power adder, in the case of lets say 40-80 hp. But when the bar is raised to lets say 100 hp or more, a turbo become the more dependable of the two. The power pulses created by a turbocharged motor is much smoother than that of a high power nos system. In turn, a little nicer to the motor, and your wallet. In the bike world, it would be fair to say that you can build a turbo powerd bike in the 250-400 hp range and still have an exceptional amount of dependability if it is done right, and with good components. However, once you enter the spectrum of 500 hp or more like a pro-street application. You better have your A-game together weather you are nos or turbo.The NOS gurus like Cecil (HTP) and Coby (Adams Performance) have built some nos powered monsters that have been dependable and down right fast. With regards to the pipes on my system, I can arrange those in any format. Chads bikes has a cut oil pan, slammed in the dirt race set up. So yes it would drag the pipes if you took it into the curves like a true streetbike. But to finalize the answer to your next question: I build turbo systems that a specifically designed with street rider in mind for running through the curves. Its just metal, I can run the pipes out the side, top, front, whatever suits your fancy. Any questions you have, feel free to ask. I don't mind sharing, anyone that knows me personally or have dealt with me will tell you that. Sincerely, Chris Jones
posted June 10, 2011 11:52 AM
Chris is a bad dude his fuel set up is the key part. I didn't listen to him because I wanted to go a "cheap" way and the bike ran good as a street bike but never performed on the track the way it should.
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posted June 11, 2011 02:55 PM
Congrets, you are doing the damn thang now!
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