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In my experience rider weight impacts the 1000's worse than it does the big bikes. 245 lbs is a pretty big rider for a 10R, imo....even the aero penalty is going to be huge.

It sounds like the 10R, unrestricted and mapped with a full exhaust, will wallop the 14 pretty handily in that kind of race. That's exactly what I would expect.

For most riders I would expect the opposite to be true at the dragstrip.

Shane

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In my experience rider weight impacts the 1000's worse than it does the big bikes. 245 lbs is a pretty big rider for a 10R, imo....even the aero penalty is going to be huge.

It sounds like the 10R, unrestricted and mapped with a full exhaust, will wallop the 14 pretty handily in that kind of race. That's exactly what I would expect.

For most riders I would expect the opposite to be true at the dragstrip.

Shane

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I know i will get flamed for this but you must have a rocket of a 14 'and i am not saying you don't. I have yet to see a 14 in that type race mod for mod get anything but its ass handed to it including my 2 mill that i thought was fast LOL.
I am no fan of the 1k's of any brand for street duty but in a 60-65 mph roll on the new 10 around here leaves the 14's like you accidentally missed a shift.
I am talking better then average riders of close weight , but when riders are switched its the same results.

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but i wouldve thought the 10 wouldve came around before 160,

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I have both - an 09 14 and the new 10. You really have to have the 10 re-flashed (Dynotronics) in order to get the real performance from the Gen 4 10. The timing retard in lower gears is removed and timing added on the high end. Fueling is also re-set in the ECU. The secondary throttle plates no longer close at 11K and are set 1:1 with the primaries. Redline is raised to 14,250 and the speed limiter is set to a much higher value. A bunch of other parameters are also modified. These changes really wake up the 10. Unless your friend with the 10 has had this done he is missing out on a big gain in power - especilly in the midrange and your 14 may suprise him. My 14 (with full TiForce and mapping) according to the old butt dyno felt much stonger than the new restricted 10. The 10 with the Yosh 3/4 exhaust and re-flash -(which is even better than the 'Euro" un-restricted version) is very different. The 10 now screams - on a long run with the 14 it would not be close.

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Despite all the early concerns about the new 10 - it does live up to the hype. When re-flashed and piped - it goes like stink. Balance is superb, Nearly as smooth as the 14. Bottom, mid range (the BIG complaint ) are both strong after the mod. Top end is unequalled - period. Ride a modded 4th Gen - it's even fairly comfortable ( 6'2'" 225) - like me, you may change your mind about liter bikes.

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Smokin,I think he means road riding performance and not d/strip,If I have to say what racing we did over the weekend against a new BM 1000, nobody's going to believe me, so I will keep my mouth shut,what I can say is that my 14 surprised me on top end it is a awesome bike to own period.

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At the end of the day the 10R is what it is. A quick and powerful bike that will be fast in the right hands.

Shane

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Look, I know everyone loves their 14's. But the 1000's are lighter and quicker in many street situations. It's not like it's a myth, lol.

On the other hand, they are harder to ride and less forgiving at the dragstrip.

As far as setting mile records goes, I learned a long time ago that "setting records" often doesn't mean much anymore. That process seems to be more about chasing the softest record, schmoozing with the right people at the track, and/or having the wind at your back...

At the end of the day the 10R is what it is. A quick and powerful bike that will be fast in the right hands.

Shane

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