Acat
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posted April 13, 2010 07:41 AM
Non o-ring looseness
Switched to a non o-ring on another bike.No new sprockets.Have Vortex sprockets. 800 miles and I have adjusted it over one full mark. Seems loose on the sprocket- mucho side play and can pull it out 3/16"". I know my sprocket is wearing but are non's just looser? Has more tensile strength than old chain. I know it's best to change in sets but this is a streetfighter project and is closely watched.
  
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CrotchRocket
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posted April 13, 2010 07:54 AM
it will stop stretching...
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68gts2
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posted April 13, 2010 08:00 AM
Did you pehaps get the wrong chain for your application? A 630 instead of 530 or smoething to that effect.
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posted April 13, 2010 12:33 PM
you'll normally get an initial big stretch over the first few hundred miles...more so if you are draggin it.
Can you give a few more details or pics of this "loosness"
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gilberjj
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posted April 13, 2010 12:35 PM
I got my drz-2 from Smokin..... I think he already stretched it for me 
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Acat
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posted April 13, 2010 01:02 PM
Never noticed an o-ring stretching. Not this much. I checked the side plate clearance against a new one and no diff. Probably sprocket wear on sides of teeth.
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LeonidasZX14
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posted April 13, 2010 02:13 PM
If you have ridden 800 miles you probably go the wrong chain for your application IMO. That chain is not for street use because the road grime will destroy it very quickly due to the metal on metal rubbing without the oring to absorb the wear factor.
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posted April 13, 2010 02:14 PM
i wont run another non o ring chain put one on my 14 in 07 and i dont ride it that much due to having 3 streetbikes but anyhow that chain is still stretching chain and sprockets have about 4000 miles on them i think they are just junk
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eklipse636
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posted April 13, 2010 05:02 PM
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i wont run another non o ring chain put one on my 14 in 07 and i dont ride it that much due to having 3 streetbikes but anyhow that chain is still stretching chain and sprockets have about 4000 miles on them i think they are just junk
their not junk if used in the right application. They are made for dragracing, not streetriding.
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smokinZX14
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posted April 13, 2010 06:33 PM
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I got my drz-2 from Smokin..... I think he already stretched it for me
LOL very true ... I put a lot of time and work into that chain ... Every other week i pulled it off and cleaned it , then put in a oil bath over night ... Not cheap oil either , i used mobil one syn oil .. They are great drag chains but not much good on the street ... Short rides ok but forget about a day trip ..
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posted April 13, 2010 06:35 PM
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If you have ridden 800 miles you probably go the wrong chain for your application IMO. That chain is not for street use because the road grime will destroy it very quickly due to the metal on metal rubbing without the oring to absorb the wear factor.
ummm...the o-ring has nothing to do with metal on metal rubbing and absorbing the wear factor. An o-ring is there to keep the LUBE inside the pins to lubricate the internal parts of the chain. All that is needed to lube an o-ring chain are the rollers that contact the sprockets.
A Non O-ring just needs more attention and cleaning than a similar o-ring chain. LOTS more attention.
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Sergent
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posted April 13, 2010 06:47 PM
Ya and i do go to the track
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zx14fan
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posted April 13, 2010 06:53 PM
Quarter pound is right.It must just be of pore quality.The O ring keeps the factory grease inside the chain.
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posted April 13, 2010 08:31 PM
ozonekiller and I weighed a non o-ring and a stock chain....The stock chain weighed LESS !!!
O-ring is the way to go...non o-ring chains dont last
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Acat
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posted April 14, 2010 02:49 AM
RK chain. Lots of lube. 115 hp. I can't fear my chain so I guess I will change back.
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eklipse636
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posted April 14, 2010 02:51 AM
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ozonekiller and I weighed a non o-ring and a stock chain....The stock chain weighed LESS !!!
O-ring is the way to go...non o-ring chains dont last
same name brand? I thought they were lighter. Maybe it's just the friction of the o rings that causes them to be "slower"
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LeonidasZX14
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posted April 14, 2010 03:27 AM
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If you have ridden 800 miles you probably go the wrong chain for your application IMO. That chain is not for street use because the road grime will destroy it very quickly due to the metal on metal rubbing without the oring to absorb the wear factor.
ummm...the o-ring has nothing to do with metal on metal rubbing and absorbing the wear factor. An o-ring is there to keep the LUBE inside the pins to lubricate the internal parts of the chain. All that is needed to lube an o-ring chain are the rollers that contact the sprockets.
A Non O-ring just needs more attention and cleaning than a similar o-ring chain. LOTS more attention.
How many of you have your own in house bikeland editor? Well, I do thanks QP for all of the help.
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SteddyTeddy
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posted April 14, 2010 05:08 AM
I've run several DZR-2's now. My next chain will either be an EK ZZZ or ZVM. I've only been getting about a year out of the DRZ's.
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eklipse636
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posted April 14, 2010 05:57 PM
my zzz hastn stretched in 6 months!
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