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posted March 08, 2010 12:45 PM
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Wow , Lee's wrong, Jesse's wrong,gilberj's wrong, Brock's wrong, Shane get counseling and please no more name calling and needless expletives.
How am I wrong? Read the dyno charts!!
I bought the pipes...did you?? No. Did Lee compare them on the same bike like I did? No. Gilberr..uh, yeah, there is an expert. lol
Brockland strikes again! 
Listen to yourself, do you hear voices, its a conspiracy??????
Just run some fuel cleaner through there like you were told.
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Shane661
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posted March 08, 2010 12:45 PM
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u wanna bet there buddy
i got the cash
Ok. Come to MIR on 4/23. $500 cash bet. Me on my bike vs. you on your Supersport bike with the new motor in it. Deal?
Show me the money!
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posted March 08, 2010 12:46 PM
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Wow , Lee's wrong, Jesse's wrong,gilberj's wrong, Brock's wrong, Shane get counseling and please no more name calling and needless expletives.
How am I wrong? Read the dyno charts!!
I bought the pipes...did you?? No. Did Lee compare them on the same bike like I did? No. Gilberr..uh, yeah, there is an expert. lol
Brockland strikes again!
shane ur really an expert NOT THE people who makes the pipes but you 1 person ... thats like saying well home made exhaust make more power then yoshi's do
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jessejames82
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posted March 08, 2010 12:47 PM
500 for how long of drive to maryland i was thinking adding some 0's then its a bet there son
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bigdtd
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posted March 08, 2010 12:49 PM
With all that money to spend bring it down south Shane, Lee might let you have a run on his "Magic Dyno" while you are in town....
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Shane661
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posted March 08, 2010 12:49 PM
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500 for how long of drive to maryland i was thinking adding some 0's then its a bet there son
Yeah, sure Smoke, we can race for lids too! How about $50k, and loser is shot on the spot??
What a joke!
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posted March 08, 2010 12:50 PM
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We all know you have purchased several exhaust and tested them and we appreciate your efforts, but you didn't run the CT with the muffler package it was designed with, so do you think this could have reduced some of the gains others are seeing, just asking?
Did you look at Brock's own data? Less than 1.5 hp from 7500 rpm up. What does that tell you?
Yes you mean his quote that the CT-Meg is stronger than the regular CT, here it is below, I"ll post his dyno charts when I get home and the difference is a lot more than the 1.5 hp you are stating, maybe that's why he said you need to clean your injectors..
Yes.
The CT Meg is even little stronger (1-2 HP) than the CT single shown.
BD
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bigdtd
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posted March 08, 2010 12:53 PM
Just run some fuel cleaner through there like you were told.
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posted March 08, 2010 12:55 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Mar 2010 21:27
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I"ll post his dyno charts when I get home and the difference is a lot more than the 1.5 hp you are stating, maybe that's why he said you need to clean your injectors..
No need to wait:
http://www.brocksperformance.com/dyno_charts/ZX14%20CT%20SERIES/ZX-1406_CTS_vs_AH_MID_800.jpg
That's Brock's chart. Does it look a lot stronger than 1.5 hp in the highlighted area?? GREEN vs. RED....the blue is the stock bike.
Shane
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jessejames82
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posted March 08, 2010 12:58 PM
for one i dont have a chromed streched busa that is purple i never said id race with my ss bike why would that be fair stock wheelbase to ur streched with all the goodies on it.. how is that fair how is it fair that you cant ride i should run a short bike when u get to be long how is that fair
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500 for how long of drive to maryland i was thinking adding some 0's then its a bet there son
Yeah, sure Smoke, we can race for lids too! How about $50k, and loser is shot on the spot??
What a joke!
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SteddyTeddy
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posted March 08, 2010 12:59 PM
No but I sure like the looks of that 6 to 7 hp and 5 ft-lbs of mid range!!!
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posted March 08, 2010 12:59 PM
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for one i dont have a chromed streched busa that is purple i never said id race with my ss bike why would that be fair stock wheelbase to ur streched with all the goodies on it.. how is that fair how is it fair that you cant ride i should run a short bike when u get to be long how is that fair
And I will cut my legs off so that I weigh the same as you...like I said, give me a break. I said I could beat your SS bike, you ran your mouth otherwise....JOKE.
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posted March 08, 2010 01:01 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Mar 2010 21:20
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No but I sure like the looks of that 6 to 7 hp and 5 ft-lbs of mid range!!!
Yeah...and look at the a/f. 13.4 on the CT vs. 12.9 on the AH. I found it to be about 4 hp peak, in a single area, with close to equal a/f, as I stated. You often see the best dyno #'s when you lean it out, as you know.
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posted March 08, 2010 01:03 PM
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u wanna bet there buddy
i got the cash
Hes got the cash he saved on his CT pipe. 
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posted March 08, 2010 01:21 PM
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Yeah...and look at the a/f. 13.4 on the CT vs. 12.9 on the AH. I found it to be about 4 hp, in a single area, with close to equal a/f, as I stated. You often see the best dyno #'s when you lean it out, as you know.
+1 ..gett'em shane ..
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posted March 08, 2010 01:31 PM
fight fight fight ROFL! damn haters
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posted March 08, 2010 01:32 PM
SPEAR SPEAR SPEAR SPEAR
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Shane661
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posted March 08, 2010 01:33 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Mar 2010 21:35
THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!
(Hey, where are you Leonidas? )
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posted March 08, 2010 01:36 PM
i will add weight to the bike i dont care
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posted March 08, 2010 01:41 PM
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SPEAR SPEAR SPEAR SPEAR
wee
no, thats Edge on smackdown
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posted March 08, 2010 01:44 PM
this pipe wont give every1 a 5mph gain in the 1\4 mile over a smeg theres no way. If im wrong im pissed at brock for selling us these pos smegs for the last few yrs. He could of built this pipe to start with lol. Dont believe everything you read on the internet. Moral of the story i think.
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posted March 08, 2010 02:02 PM
Edited By: Swiftkart on 8 Mar 2010 22:06
Here's a little different result with MR11, about 4 hp from 7,500 up
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Shane661
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posted March 08, 2010 02:10 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Mar 2010 22:19
3.59 hp and 1.37 ft lbs. There is your 5 mph, lol!
The a/f is close, but we all know the leaner numbers can give higher #'s on the dyno.
I never said the pipe wasn't stronger; I said it wasn't 5 mph stronger. You think 3 hp is getting you 5 mph in the 1/4?? Wake up!
The funny part is that I sang the praises of the CT in my thread....I'm no CT "hater". But I didn't scream out any ridiculous claims. My bad, next time I need to embellish things a bit.
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posted March 08, 2010 02:54 PM
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3.59 hp and 1.37 ft lbs. There is your 5 mph, lol!
The a/f is close, but we all know the leaner numbers can give higher #'s on the dyno.
I never said the pipe wasn't stronger; I said it wasn't 5 mph stronger. You think 3 hp is getting you 5 mph in the 1/4?? Wake up!
The funny part is that I sang the praises of the CT in my thread....I'm no CT "hater". But I didn't scream out any ridiculous claims. My bad, next time I need to embellish things a bit.
how did we embelish HOW i ran 149 in the quarter SAME ET SAME EVERYTHING ON THE BIKE all we did different was put the pipe on no new map nothing THEN IT PICKS UP 5 MPH whats the issue shane it make more midrange and more hp over all so of course its gonna be faster JUST BECAUSE i cant perform brain surgery doesnt mean it cant be done ... just because YOU SHANE DIDNT GO FAST doesnt mean someone else can
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posted March 08, 2010 02:57 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Mar 2010 23:00
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how did we embelish HOW i ran 149 in the quarter SAME ET SAME EVERYTHING ON THE BIKE all we did different was put the pipe on no new map nothing THEN IT PICKS UP 5 MPH whats the issue shane it make more midrange and more hp over all so of course its gonna be faster JUST BECAUSE i cant perform brain surgery doesnt mean it cant be done ... just because YOU SHANE DIDNT GO FAST doesnt mean someone else can
Lee told me your bike last pulled 159 hp on the dyno. Now it pulls over 170 hp from just switching pipes? Uh, yeah, ok.
Different tracks, different tune, many variables bro...seriously, are you that dense?
3 Hp doesn't equal 5 mph. Everyone here knows that, but like 3 people in this thread. Seriously, give it a rest. If you can make 3 hp gain 5 mph, you are the next Einstein. Get it???
OH, and you got 5 mph without even a map change?!!?! That's rich right there, man...that says it all!!! Maybe your TPS was so screwed it was costing you power?? I think Lee said he adjusted that too??
Too hilarious!!!
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