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posted March 08, 2010 12:11 PM
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Nobody is calling you a liar.
But I'll tell you what...I bought, installed, measured, dyno tuned, and rode both pipes at the track.Same dyno, same track, same bike, same rider. Do you think I made money off of it? Do you think I would try to mislead anyone here?
I'm not saying anyone fudged any numbers. But I'm also saying that nobody should expect to see 5 mph from this pipe. Maybe there were some other strange, unknown factors that contributed to those gains. For example, the tuning, setting the tps...something.
Shane
We all know you have purchased several exhaust and tested them and we appreciate your efforts, but you didn't run the CT with the muffler package it was designed with, so do you think this could have reduced some of the gains others are seeing, just asking?
My bike with the CT-Meg picked up hp and torque everywhere over the Alien Head, with most of the gains being in the midrange around 7hp and almost 4 hp on top, the CT-Meg according to Brock is 1 to 2hp better than the standard CT on top.
Now as far as gaining mph, I don't know yet, my track opens on the 20th so I will have to wait and see how much if any mph I pickup, but I will post if I do or don't.
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SteddyTeddy
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posted March 08, 2010 12:11 PM
I think Brock was just making it obsolutely clear that he is not associated with the above mentioned. Since the above was DQ'ed this race, doesn't he also have to sit out the next race?
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Shane661
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posted March 08, 2010 12:13 PM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Mar 2010 20:15
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We all know you have purchased several exhaust and tested them and we appreciate your efforts, but you didn't run the CT with the muffler package it was designed with, so do you think this could have reduced some of the gains others are seeing, just asking?
Did you look at Brock's own data? Less than 1.5 hp from 7500 rpm up. What does that tell you?
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gilberjj
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posted March 08, 2010 12:15 PM
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2. Shane661, please use some of this: [url=http://prostores2.carrierzone.com/servlet/brockracing/-strse-2832/Fuel-System-Treatment/Detail]Fuel System Cleanser[url] that you know for certain that your engine/fuel system is in the proper state to notice all of the gains from your new exhaust.
I don't think I need to clean my fuel system, since your own charts show no more than 1.5 hp gain on the CT vs. Alien Head, from 7500 rpm up. That is directly in line with my dyno results. 
Shane, you're really acting like a bitch right now.
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Shane661
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posted March 08, 2010 12:16 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Mar 2010 20:19
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2. Shane661, please use some of this: [url=http://prostores2.carrierzone.com/servlet/brockracing/-strse-2832/Fuel-System-Treatment/Detail]Fuel System Cleanser[url] that you know for certain that your engine/fuel system is in the proper state to notice all of the gains from your new exhaust.
I don't think I need to clean my fuel system, since your own charts show no more than 1.5 hp gain on the CT vs. Alien Head, from 7500 rpm up. That is directly in line with my dyno results.
Shane, you're really acting like a bitch right now.
How so? I am just pointing out that that Brock's dyno results agree with mine... Why would I buy some fuel cleaner?
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jessejames82
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posted March 08, 2010 12:17 PM
haha jorgen
who was the other SS bike that got DQ ed i just saw the one that was mentioned before
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Wheelie
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posted March 08, 2010 12:20 PM
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2. Shane661, please use some of this: [url=http://prostores2.carrierzone.com/servlet/brockracing/-strse-2832/Fuel-System-Treatment/Detail]Fuel System Cleanser[url] that you know for certain that your engine/fuel system is in the proper state to notice all of the gains from your new exhaust.
I don't think I need to clean my fuel system, since your own charts show no more than 1.5 hp gain on the CT vs. Alien Head, from 7500 rpm up. That is directly in line with my dyno results.
Shane, you're really acting like a bitch right now.
Why would I buy some fuel cleaner?
thats mouth wash!
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gilberjj
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posted March 08, 2010 12:23 PM
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2. Shane661, please use some of this: [url=http://prostores2.carrierzone.com/servlet/brockracing/-strse-2832/Fuel-System-Treatment/Detail]Fuel System Cleanser[url] that you know for certain that your engine/fuel system is in the proper state to notice all of the gains from your new exhaust.
I don't think I need to clean my fuel system, since your own charts show no more than 1.5 hp gain on the CT vs. Alien Head, from 7500 rpm up. That is directly in line with my dyno results.
Shane, you're really acting like a bitch right now.
How so? I am just pointing out that that Brock's dyno results agree with mine... Why would I buy some fuel cleaner?
You are calling everyone out, and arguing over everything. All Smokin is trying to do is give some results and congrats from the weekend, and you are reading into everything WAY too deep. Quit trying to discredit everyone.
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jessejames82
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posted March 08, 2010 12:27 PM
cant we all get along 
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Shane661
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posted March 08, 2010 12:27 PM
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You are calling everyone out, and arguing over everything. All Smokin is trying to do is give some results and congrats from the weekend, and you are reading into everything WAY too deep. Quit trying to discredit everyone.
You can also go fuck yourself. I never claimed anything but that this system won't give 5 mph. The shit about lightweights was a joke, as anyone can see.
Lee has been selling this system hard ever since he got it on Jesse's bike. How often do you see a post that has "TM" in the title? That's how hard he has been selling this system. Write him a fucking check, already.
Do you think it is a coincidence that Brock found this thread or the other one? No, it's not, dipshit. I have spent a lot of money on Brock's products (Perhaps more than anyone on this board), and they are top notch, but I'm also not a sales minion, either.
Thanks.
Shane
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bigdtd
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posted March 08, 2010 12:27 PM
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2. Shane661, please use some of this: [url=http://prostores2.carrierzone.com/servlet/brockracing/-strse-2832/Fuel-System-Treatment/Detail]Fuel System Cleanser[url] that you know for certain that your engine/fuel system is in the proper state to notice all of the gains from your new exhaust.
I don't think I need to clean my fuel system, since your own charts show no more than 1.5 hp gain on the CT vs. Alien Head, from 7500 rpm up. That is directly in line with my dyno results.
Shane, you're really acting like a bitch right now.
Why would I buy some fuel cleaner?
thats mouth wash!
wee
I was thinking the same thing LOL    
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gilberjj
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posted March 08, 2010 12:29 PM
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You are calling everyone out, and arguing over everything. All Smokin is trying to do is give some results and congrats from the weekend, and you are reading into everything WAY too deep. Quit trying to discredit everyone.
You can also go fuck yourself. I never claimed anything but that this system won't give 5 mph. The shit about lightweights was a joke, as anyone can see.
Lee has been selling this system hard ever since he got it on Jesse's bike. How often do you see a post that has "TM" in the title? That's how hard he has been selling this system. Write him a fucking check, already.
Do you think it is a coincidence that Brock found this thread or the other one? No, it's not, dipshit. I have spent a lot of money on Brock's products (Perhaps more than anyone on this board), and they are top notch, but I'm also not a sales minion, either.
Thanks.
Shane
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jessejames82
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posted March 08, 2010 12:29 PM
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Well shane i can tell why your bike runs like shit ... BUT i can tell you Jesses bike does NOT have any spray on it ...To even hint that i put spray on Jesse to get that MPH is just fucking stupid..
Guess what, Lee....FUCK YOU. And I really mean that.
I didn't hint about spray. I hinted that to expect 5-6 mph without spray is stupid. You are writing this shit and folks expect to see 5-6 mph from switching from a Shortmeg to a CT...that is just plain ridiculous.
hey easy there killer who u say fuck you too ... we said it picked up 5 mph over an alien head ... shane bring ur bike down with a stack of cash here i run u anytime anyplace buddy to shut u up and pay for something bought from brock
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Shane661
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posted March 08, 2010 12:31 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Mar 2010 20:31
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hey easy there killer who u say fuck you too ... we said it picked up 5 mph over an alien head ... shane bring ur bike down with a stack of cash here i run u anytime anyplace buddy to shut u up and pay for something bought from brock
Funny...you're not even close to my ET's....what the hell are you talking about???
I know that Lee is like your 2nd dad or whatever, but give me a break...
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jessejames82
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posted March 08, 2010 12:31 PM
BTW shane your no dragracer so what you do at the strip is different from people that can ride
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Shane661
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posted March 08, 2010 12:32 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Mar 2010 20:34
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BTW shane your no dragracer so what you do at the strip is different from people that can ride
Man, your wit is only matched by your grammar.
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jessejames82
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posted March 08, 2010 12:32 PM
what u run there boy and he aint my dad so talk shit to me not him
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SteddyTeddy
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posted March 08, 2010 12:33 PM
Edited By: SteddyTeddy on 8 Mar 2010 20:34
inhale.......exhail.......Doesn't that feel better now? 
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Wheelie
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posted March 08, 2010 12:34 PM
(yawn) whats all the noise?
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Shane661
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posted March 08, 2010 12:37 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Mar 2010 20:39
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what u run there boy and he aint my dad so talk shit to me not him
Well, last season was 8.93, but it will be quicker this year. But, I am not a dragracer (like you, big cat!)...but fast enough to beat what you run on your SS bike, for sure. 
Besides don't you ever tire of calling people out? I guess not, you have nothing to lose, right?
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gilberjj
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posted March 08, 2010 12:37 PM
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(yawn) whats all the noise?
wee
EVERYONE SHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Don't wake up the old man during his afternoon nap. Everyone knows that you need at least 3 naps a day when you're old! 
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bigdtd
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posted March 08, 2010 12:39 PM
Edited By: bigdtd on 8 Mar 2010 20:42
Wow , Lee's wrong, Jesse's wrong, gilberj's wrong, Swiftkart's wrong, Brock's wrong, Shane get counseling and please no more name calling and needless expletives.
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jessejames82
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posted March 08, 2010 12:40 PM
u wanna bet there buddy
i got the cash
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Shane661
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posted March 08, 2010 12:43 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Mar 2010 20:43
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Wow , Lee's wrong, Jesse's wrong,gilberj's wrong, Brock's wrong, Shane get counseling and please no more name calling and needless expletives.
How am I wrong? Read the dyno charts!!
I bought the pipes...did you?? No. Did Lee compare them on the same bike like I did? No. Gilberr..uh, yeah, there is an expert. lol
Brockland strikes again! 
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Wheelie
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posted March 08, 2010 12:43 PM
ive got a smeg for sale, mint condition,
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