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posted March 07, 2010 02:06 PM
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Tommy just made another round in Street ET .... 8 bikes left .... Go Tommy !!!!
I hope to run Street ET this season...
  
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posted March 07, 2010 02:38 PM
 Edited By: SteddyTeddy on 7 Mar 2010 22:40
Tommy just took another win. He's in the final 4!!! He beat the 750 Hondamatic that took me out last fall!!! LOL
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LeonidasZX14
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posted March 07, 2010 02:39 PM
I saw that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 13 second dial in WTF???????????? GO TOMMY
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SteddyTeddy
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posted March 07, 2010 02:41 PM
That's what threw me off. 4 seconds is a looooong wait.
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LeonidasZX14
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posted March 07, 2010 03:53 PM
I bet, I did not think Tommy would catch him but he did.
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Bently
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posted March 07, 2010 05:40 PM
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All the zx14 that have run 8s in super sport are running CTs ..
What pipes were 8 second Supersport bikes running before the CT came out? Or are you saying that no Supersport bike ever ran an 8 before the CT?
No ..I'm just saying every zx14 there this weekend running 8s had a CT pipe ..
I did some digging and most guys mph are the same this year in supersport as it was last year without the ct pipe, they should have all been in the 160's with the ct. and congrats to Tommy for making it as far as he did that's some tuff competition at those ama races in street et. might try to hit Indy myself this year for the 9.50 amd street et class.
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LeonidasZX14
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posted March 07, 2010 05:49 PM
Which leans towards the fact that the HP is in the motor not the pipe.
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posted March 07, 2010 06:01 PM
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All the zx14 that have run 8s in super sport are running CTs ..
What pipes were 8 second Supersport bikes running before the CT came out? Or are you saying that no Supersport bike ever ran an 8 before the CT?
No ..I'm just saying every zx14 there this weekend running 8s had a CT pipe ..
I did some digging and most guys mph are the same this year in supersport as it was last year without the ct pipe, they should have all been in the 160's with the ct. and congrats to Tommy for making it as far as he did that's some tuff competition at those ama races in street et. might try to hit Indy myself this year for the 9.50 amd street et class.
I know Ricky and a few others had the CT last year .. I has been out for sometime now ..Bently think about what you are saying ..These guy were allready making 200 HP and there gains would be smaller than Jesse gains ..The faster you go the more HP you need to see gains .. If you allready have 200 your are not going to see the gains Jesse got ..
If i can i'd like to run ET street also ... Maybe i might be able to run the last race of the year in Ga , that is if work picks up ..
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smokinZX14
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posted March 07, 2010 06:22 PM
This was the last Nov 2009 at Ga ... Ricky had the CT and i believe Teasley did also .. The other zx14s were in the low 9s .. Now those same 9s second bikes are in the 8s ...
SUPERSPORT Elimination Results
Bike # Rider Hometown Bike RT ET MPH
ROUND 1
W 62 RICKEY GADSON HAMMONTON NJ 09 KAW ZX14 0.109 8.930 155.97
L 1948 DAVE GEBHARDT ARLINGTON TX 08 KAW ZX14 0.067 9.513 149.60
W 2949 JEREMY TEASLEY ORIENT OH 09 KAW ZX-14 0.152 9.014 155.13
L 2382 JASON ANGELA 08 SUZ GSXR 0.137 9.193 153.67
W 1000 KENNY POPPELL JESUP GA 07 SUZ 0.034 9.131 155.92
L 1550 JOEY GLADSTONE TOWNSEND DE 07 SUZ GSXR 0.103 9.072 157.50
W 1826 DANNY PAYTON ELIZABETH TOWN KY 08 SUZ GSXR 0.030 9.054 156.52
L 1048 FARLIE HALL SPRING TX 08 KAW ZX-14 0.114 9.058 155.29
ROUND 2
W 2949 JEREMY TEASLEY ORIENT OH 09 KAW ZX-14 0.110 9.053 154.67
L 1000 KENNY POPPELL JESUP GA 07 SUZ 0.114 9.050 156.66
W 62 RICKEY GADSON HAMMONTON NJ 09 KAW ZX14 0.079 8.931 156.17
L 1826 DANNY PAYTON ELIZABETH TOWN KY 08 SUZ GSXR -0.009 9.080 159.66
FINALS
W 62 RICKEY GADSON HAMMONTON NJ 09 KAW ZX14 0.106 8.964 155.69
L 2949 JEREMY TEASLEY ORIENT OH 09 KAW ZX-14 0.112 8.958 156.21
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posted March 07, 2010 06:29 PM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 8 Mar 2010 02:47
Nov 2008 Ga .. You can see the zx14s running low 9s now they are running mid 8.90s ..Something has them making more MPH and ET ..FARLIE HALL SPRING TX 08 KAW ZX-14 .216 9.088 152.74 , Farlie this weekend ran a 8.966 MPH 159.74
SUPERSPORT Elimination Results
Rider Hometown Bike RT ET MPH
ROUND 1
W JEREMY TEASLEY ORIENT OH 07 SUZ GSXR .125 9.032 156.34
L SINGLE
W EDWARD MURPHY BRIDGEPORT CT 07 SUZ .211 9.088 155.19
L LEVI GOLD 08 SUZ GSXR .174 9.607 148.22
W JOE FRANCO THORNWOOD NY 05 SUZ GSXR .155 9.169 155.65
L DOMONIC ANDERSON RICHMOND VA 07 SUZ GSXR .193 9.416 147.04
W KEITH DENNIS CORDOVA TN 08 SUZ GSXR .078 9.112 154.69
L BRIAN WADHAMS MIDLOTHIAN IL 06 SUZ GSXR .023 9.638 149.31
W FARLIE HALL SPRING TX 08 KAW ZX-14 .216 9.088 152.74
L FRANK STOTZ SCHAUMBURG IL 07 HON CBR .183 9.478 154.00
W CHIP ELLIS PLAINS GA 06 KAW ZX14 .160 9.223 153.77
L JOEY GLADSTONE TOWNSEND DE 07 SUZ GSXR .120 9.329 153.56
W BRAD ABELE CRESTWOOD KY 07 SUZ GSXR .066 9.208 155.74
L DANNY PAYTON ELIZABETH TOWN KY 08 SUZ GSXR -.072 9.276 152.55
W DUSTIN CLARK INDIANAPOLIS IN 08 SUZ BUSA .204 9.159 156.57
L JENNIFER ROBERTSON CENTER POINT TX 07 SUZ GSXR .177 9.197 155.63
W PATRICK COOPER CINCINNATI OH 07 SUZ GSXR .152 9.141 155.92
L JASON FERNANDEZ TAMPA BAY FL 07 SUZ GSXR .141 10.688 93.03
W MICHAEL WOSKA LEES SUMMIT MO 05 SUZ GSXR .166 9.360 145.80
L SONNY KERSCHNER ASHVILLE OH 05 SUZ .085 9.444 152.42
W KENNY POPPELL JESSUP GA 07 SUZ GSXR .178 9.187 155.96
L STACY SMITH ROWLETT TX 07 SUZ GSXR
ROUND 2
W EDWARD MURPHY BRIDGEPORT CT 07 SUZ .096 9.134 156.34
L CHIP ELLIS PLAINS GA 06 KAW ZX14 .165 9.222 151.61
W DUSTIN CLARK INDIANAPOLIS IN 08 SUZ BUSA .152 9.140 154.30
L MICHAEL WOSKA LEES SUMMIT MO 05 SUZ GSXR .106 9.244 155.94
W JEREMY TEASLEY ORIENT OH 07 SUZ GSXR .135 9.000 157.14
L KENNY POPPELL JESSUP GA 07 SUZ GSXR -.012 9.169 159.06
W PATRICK COOPER CINCINNATI OH 07 SUZ GSXR .136 9.173 155.78
L BRAD ABELE CRESTWOOD KY 07 SUZ GSXR .090 9.526 150.45
W JOE FRANCO THORNWOOD NY 05 SUZ GSXR .137 9.382 154.88
L FARLIE HALL SPRING TX 08 KAW ZX-14 -.033 9.259 151.71
W KEITH DENNIS CORDOVA TN 08 SUZ GSXR .076 9.167 163.20
L SINGLE
ROUND 3
W EDWARD MURPHY BRIDGEPORT CT 07 SUZ .095 9.069 156.50
L JOE FRANCO THORNWOOD NY 05 SUZ GSXR .127 10.166 102.70
W KEITH DENNIS CORDOVA TN 08 SUZ GSXR .057 9.060 159.55
L DUSTIN CLARK INDIANAPOLIS IN 08 SUZ BUSA .135 9.138 154.94
W JEREMY TEASLEY ORIENT OH 07 SUZ GSXR .127 8.989 156.75
L PATRICK COOPER CINCINNATI OH 07 SUZ GSXR -.197 9.137 156.73
ROUND 4
W JEREMY TEASLEY ORIENT OH 07 SUZ GSXR .110 9.015 153.54
L KEITH DENNIS CORDOVA TN 08 SUZ GSXR .039 9.163 154.30
W EDWARD MURPHY BRIDGEPORT CT 07 SUZ .254 9.115 156.63
L SINGLE
FINALS
W EDWARD MURPHY BRIDGEPORT CT 07 SUZ .028 9.160 157.06
L JEREMY TEASLEY ORIENT OH 07 SUZ GSXR .206 9.034 153.23
SUPERSPORT - Final Qualifying
The engine rules and the weight rules have not changed .. So what is it ..The pipe , the tunning ? I would say both ..
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gilberjj
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posted March 07, 2010 09:43 PM
I'm pretty sure RG went 8's with an alien head just before the switch. Let me do some digging.
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kawasakijockey
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posted March 08, 2010 05:46 AM
Smokin, Farlie Hall was running 8.90's last year on the Alien Head in Houston.
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posted March 08, 2010 06:30 AM
Edited By: bigdtd on 8 Mar 2010 15:40
great times
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posted March 08, 2010 07:03 AM
thanks for all the support guys and if anyone i still questing jessi 155mph i saw the time slip no bull shit .
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Shane661
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posted March 08, 2010 07:07 AM
I don't think that anyone doubts he went 155 mph...the questions were more about how much gain was from the pipe alone.
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SteddyTeddy
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posted March 08, 2010 07:14 AM
Hey Tommy I think it's time you update you sig line. Good running yesterday!!
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LeonidasZX14
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posted March 08, 2010 08:03 AM
Here is the deal! I'm not questioning any of the time slips mph or anything else! Jessies bike dynoed at 172 HP and he went 155 mph on a worn out stock zx14 motor with the CT pipe? The SS bikes like Ricky Gadson, Jeremy Teasly, Farlie Hall and others all ran the same MPH with a known 200 hp race trimmed SS zx14 motor. How does a stock motor with 25 less HP run the same MPH? HP equals MPH and everyone knows that. My gripe is that I spent over $1k on my SMEG less than a year ago and I know that my pipe is not holding back an additional 8HP. The CT is nice and it's really light as well. Please after reading this, step back and say hmmmmmmm how do two zx14's with 25 HP difference both run 155 mph.
BTW...GO TOMMY GO!!!!!!!!!!!!
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smokinZX14
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posted March 08, 2010 08:15 AM
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Here is the deal! I'm not questioning any of the time slips mph or anything else! Jessies bike dynoed at 172 HP and he went 155 mph on a worn out stock zx14 motor with the CT pipe? The SS bikes like Ricky Gadson, Jeremy Teasly, Farlie Hall and others all ran the same MPH with a known 200 hp race trimmed SS zx14 motor. How does a stock motor with 25 less HP run the same MPH? HP equals MPH and everyone knows that. My gripe is that I spent over $1k on my SMEG less than a year ago and I know that my pipe is not holding back an additional 8HP. The CT is nice and it's really light as well. Please after reading this, step back and say hmmmmmmm how do two zx14's with 25 HP difference both run 155 mph.
BTW...GO TOMMY GO!!!!!!!!!!!!
At this weekends race Hall went 159 mph ... That is not the 155 Jesse ran ...That makes it clear that hall bikes is making more hp than jesse bike ..
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kawasakijockey
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posted March 08, 2010 08:19 AM
I was just about to say that Farlie's bike was doing 158 last time out.
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smokinZX14
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posted March 08, 2010 08:20 AM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 8 Mar 2010 16:27
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Smokin, Farlie Hall was running 8.90's last year on the Alien Head in Houston.
I'm sure he did run high 8s but did he do it at 159 like he did this weekend ?
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kawasakijockey
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posted March 08, 2010 08:23 AM
Edited By: kawasakijockey on 8 Mar 2010 16:24
He ran at least one mid 8.90 but I cannot remember his mph.
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smokinZX14
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posted March 08, 2010 08:27 AM
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He ran at least one mid 8.90 but I cannot remember his mph.
kawasakijockey how was your wheely ride on the 10 second Vmax ... We need a report ..
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SteddyTeddy
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posted March 08, 2010 08:43 AM
Edited By: SteddyTeddy on 8 Mar 2010 16:49
Yeah the big boys were all running in the 158 to 159 range. On my bike it took between 15 and 20 hp increase to gain 5mph in the 1/4. With more weight on the bike I should also add.
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Swiftkart
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posted March 08, 2010 08:50 AM
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I'm pretty sure RG went 8's with an alien head just before the switch. Let me do some digging.
No he didn't, I have the time slip from Brock, he got into the 8's after installing the CT, you have to remember he is the biggest or heavyest guy in the class just about.
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Shane661
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posted March 08, 2010 08:57 AM
Edited By: Shane661 on 8 Mar 2010 17:04
The question wasn't whether it is a better pipe...because it is. The question was, is it 5+ mph better? And the answer for most of the free world is no...you will not see 5 mph from this pipe. But who expects 5 mph, really? Even 1 mph at this level is a huge improvement, imo. It's a stock motor (in many cases), and you are only going to see so much gain.
The pipe has more ground clearance than a Shortmeg. When they put it on RG's bike, they also put a lower profile drain plug and shaved the guard, which allowed the bike to sit lower. I believe that was also mentioned. Being able to leave harder is going to pay bigger dividends in ET than a few hp would.
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