j-bird09
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posted February 21, 2010 12:10 PM
which is better m14 or m10
just thought id put it out here and i know every one is going to say brocks thats not the question dont want to spend a grand i will be street riding 90% of the time thank you
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Shane661
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posted February 21, 2010 12:12 PM
 Edited By: Shane661 on 21 Feb 2010 20:13
M14 is a header design. M10 is a muffler.
The M14 header is better than the older Muzzy setup.
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gilberjj
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posted February 21, 2010 12:23 PM
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M14 is a header design. M10 is a muffler.
The M14 header is better than the older Muzzy setup.
+1. The m10 muffler is a gp style canister. It is loud and deep. I loved the sound of mine. The m14 is a tapered header. Very good design.
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Shane661
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posted February 21, 2010 12:34 PM
The M14 header is VERY nice. 
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j-bird09
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posted February 21, 2010 03:07 PM
so the m10 doesnt have tapered header design right do they perform about the same i seen shane you had one on your bike meaning m14 is pcv manditory for both these pipes i am putting in bmc also and maybe flies out
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j-bird09
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posted February 21, 2010 03:09 PM
also do you have to take off the radiator to put the head pipes on looks very tight if not
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DEK
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posted February 21, 2010 03:16 PM
Yes, you'll need to loosen the rad bolts and swing it foward.
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eklipse636
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posted February 21, 2010 03:51 PM
How much are you spending for a new muzzy? Close to same price as brocks?
Get a used system and save some money!
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CraigChrist
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posted February 21, 2010 08:56 PM
don't forget to buy a long extension and a swivel... It'll make life a hell of a lot easier.
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted February 21, 2010 11:23 PM
I like the M-10 muffler. Reminds me of the old Kerker megaphones on the old kawi Z1's 
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68gts2
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posted February 22, 2010 05:03 AM
Be sure and tape a piece of cardboard to the back side of you radiator. It will keep a lot of opps dings out of your fins.
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posted February 22, 2010 07:23 AM
Buy the Alien head. Just bought one. I have my old muzzy system if u want it. Its in perfect shape.
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Shane661
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posted February 22, 2010 07:52 AM
I have had the M14, the Shortmeg, the CT, and now the TiWinder.
The best overall pipe, money aside, would be the CT single, imo. Beautiful design and great ground clearance.
That being said, the M14 has better ground clearance than an Alien Head. If you are buying used, the Muzzy M14 pipes are a steal these days. If buying new, I would lean toward the Brock's systems because of the maps and customer support. With the new pricing on Brock's systems, the cost is not that different between the two.
Just don't get the older style Muzzy header. It has the most restrictive design, and from what I can see it also has poor ground clearance.
Shane
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gilberjj
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posted February 22, 2010 08:30 AM
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so the m10 doesnt have tapered header design right do they perform about the same i seen shane you had one on your bike meaning m14 is pcv manditory for both these pipes i am putting in bmc also and maybe flies out
I don't think you understand this completely. The m14 is a style of header and you can put ANY muffler behind it (gp canister, m10, oval stainless, round aluminum, ect). If you buy a muzzy system, DO NOT get just a regular m10 system. The original m10 was a full system with a crappy header design. Don't get it unless it's about $300. If you want the m10 style header, make sure you get the m14/m10. That is a m14 header with a m10 muffler. Hope this clears it up.
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j-bird09
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posted February 22, 2010 03:06 PM
thats what i was thinking of doing the m14 has the tappered head pipes but dont look like the m10 did i can get a new system for 650$ thats the m14 i think thats what i will end up going with
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gilberjj
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posted February 22, 2010 05:40 PM
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thats what i was thinking of doing the m14 has the tappered head pipes but dont look like the m10 did i can get a new system for 650$ thats the m14 i think thats what i will end up going with
Ya, get an m14 or a Orient Express. The muzzys will probably make more power (a little bit), but the Orient Express is VERY high quality and sounds great. I believe they are $800.
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