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posted November 12, 2009 05:43 PM
1st night stretched...
1st night stretched...ssuucckkeedd. 1st run I thought I would take off easy and get a feel. Missed the pegs pulling my legs up, then thought the clutch had slipped as it suddenly revved to the limiter. I backed it off and finished out. Track lights and timing weren't working. Waited 30 minutes to run again. Left fairly easy, then rolled on hard and was off like a rocket. Leaving easy I had a 1.68. Mid track suddenly it revved to the limiter and I realized it was breaking loose. Slid around a little bit but had control and finished out. Tried one more time and again spun mid track. Changed lanes and it spun out again mid-way enough that the back end probably swung about a foot and a half back and forth. Just loaded it up and took it to the house. Saw a 'busa running high 10's, GXSR1000's running 11's. Not too good. Anyway, that's the way it goes. I'll try again next week and see if it's any better. A few new pics of my babys just to make me smile.
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Bently
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posted November 12, 2009 05:46 PM
What tire and air pressure you running?
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posted November 12, 2009 05:53 PM
Did you heat up the tire 1st? Drop the air pressure?
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posted November 12, 2009 06:01 PM
One of the big differences in a stretched bike is there's not as much weight over the rear tire so it wants to get loose alittle easier. Don't give up! You will get the hang of it!
If the track is poorly prepper drop down to 12-15psi
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smokehouse4444
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posted November 12, 2009 06:06 PM
Yep. Burned out each time. I had dropped my pressure down to about 28 or so before running. After the second run I dropped it to about 18-20. I'm running Metzeler M3's and they usually stick well.
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posted November 12, 2009 06:15 PM
HOLY SHIT... get that thing in the dirt man. Even with the stretch it's going to be hard to launch with it looking like a monster truck.
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smokehouse4444
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posted November 12, 2009 06:30 PM
Track was prepped about 2 weeks ago from what I understand. Was like fly paper at the launch. I wasn't even trying that hard, just easing it out and I was around my best times at swb. It started spinning somewhere mid track.
Bawls - LOL- Dude, I at least strap it before I run, so it is a bit lower. Not too sure I want to go to that last hole with the stock oil pan.
It's alright. I'll go next week and give it some hell at the launch; get that 60ft down.
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posted November 12, 2009 06:32 PM
...monster truck...
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posted November 12, 2009 06:52 PM
It's your tires, I had those same exact tires on mine and I could never get those tires to hold the bike. I switched to the shinko u-soft and haven't had a problem since...
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posted November 12, 2009 07:19 PM
you will never hook with M3's
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posted November 12, 2009 07:21 PM
4444, man that strap could be your problem! If you don't wheelie , don't strap! Then if you can't spin , strap it a little ! Lower the bike , tune the suspension, play with the air and the strap! Shine my man!
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posted November 12, 2009 07:32 PM
That tire just won't hold, strap is not the problem. On a well preped track my buddy stretched his 08 busa which has a more sticky tire then an m3 and he could not hook with the strap lose and 9 psi. on a well preped track. my supercorsa hooked that same day with 28 psi in it!
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posted November 12, 2009 07:42 PM
Oh man! You guys got me ready to go out right now! I'll be out next Wednesday and give it hell. Never thought about the M3's being trouble. Hmmm... With stock wheelbase, the last few times at the track, I was walking it down nicely - 10.2, 10.1,10.0, then when I was really rolling on hard to get that 9, it was breaking loose, everytime. I just thought it was the track going away. I've never had a problem in the middle of the track, though.
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posted November 12, 2009 07:56 PM
Stretched is a whole new game, but a decent tire on and you will be fine. If that tire will hook you will need to be down to at least 15 psi.
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posted November 12, 2009 08:00 PM
get a stickey tire and good to go. i damn near looped my 12 this yr, its 11 over, strapped, with 12 pounds of weight on the forks... traction has never been an issue on the rest of the track either
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posted November 12, 2009 09:28 PM
traction is key! I just put 300 pounds of sand over the rear of mine for better traction........ in my truck of course!
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posted November 12, 2009 10:29 PM
you driving on ice? 
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posted November 13, 2009 07:37 AM
Smokehouse- SAR has been terrible down track last 2 times we went out.
Glad to see you stretched it, if you want I have a Usoft mounted on a 12R rear wheel you can borrow to try.
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posted November 13, 2009 07:56 AM
Great to hear from you R! I was hoping you'd been on the track recently and could tell me how it was. Before I left, I was actually the fastest bike that I saw times on. I've been twisty riding exclusively for several months, so I wanted to ease into that change of attitude you have to have when switching between twisty and drag. The track made me a little nervous so I just packed it in. I live about 11/2 hrs away now so it's a bit more of an ordeal to get there. I have already looked into the Michelin Power One and may go with that, but we'll see...maybe I'll take you up on that offer.
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posted November 13, 2009 08:42 AM
I had the exact set up you have now...you need an U-soft tire or drag tire its the only think i could find that would hook without lowering the rear more. U-soft 14-15 psi should take care of it. good luck
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