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posted July 02, 2009 09:40 AM
Dubious
Dubious,
Have gotten 4 failure to deliver on your email address;
"JDC , I have some questions for ya,
can you hit my email?
eldubois at telus dot net
thanks"
Have spelled the eldubios as you put above, and eldubious as well, as in your moniker.
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lovecostarica AT gmail.com
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posted July 02, 2009 09:53 AM
ah, thats because its eldubois, not eldubios
Will hit you up right away!
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posted July 02, 2009 10:09 AM
secrets secrets are no fun
secrets secrets hurt someone
........ I just felt left out of your exclusive emailing
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posted July 02, 2009 10:31 AM
LOL
I am willing to post anything and everything except security / theft related info...
I am installing an alarm, and until I determine what info is safe to publicise, it will remain private... thats for the good of us all too.
Last thing we want is to publicise the ignition wiring and anti theft info on a public forum.
Its hard enough to keep our precious bikes away from theives
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posted July 02, 2009 11:22 AM
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LOL
I am willing to post anything and everything
"REALLY" . . . . . 
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posted July 02, 2009 01:01 PM
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LOL
I am willing to post anything and everything except security / theft related info...
I am installing an alarm, and until I determine what info is safe to publicise, it will remain private... thats for the good of us all too.
Last thing we want is to publicise the ignition wiring and anti theft info on a public forum.
Its hard enough to keep our precious bikes away from theives
I still got a spot in my garage from where my 14 used to be. You can park it right there. I promise I won't race it...... 
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posted July 02, 2009 08:10 PM
 Edited By: dubious on 3 Jul 2009 05:02
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LOL
I am willing to post anything and everything
"REALLY" . . . . .
Bob
Yup no secrets here, and very little discretion too 
I'm the kind of guy that would be a best friend for life, but capable of turning like a rabid pitbul when taken advantage of
some get a second chance, but never a 3rd.
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posted July 03, 2009 07:43 AM
I'm the kind of guy that would be a best friend for life, but capable of turning like a rabid pitbul when taken advantage of
some get a second chance, but never a 3rd.
+1 We may be twins
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posted July 03, 2009 12:48 PM
Lyle,
Hey the turbo oil feed restrictor came in today.
You could not get a needle through that restricted orifice! ... meaning Garett, compared to this ATP turbo kit install, has really cranked back the oil use necessary for the GT30.
Also, with such a small orifice, I can understand your placement decision, right on the turbo, cause it would look like it will just squirt a very small stream into the turtbo...
which outta get that lor idle oil pressure up pretty nicely, I'd think.
and if it is on the other end of the oil feed line, coming off the oil sending unit T, it may take a little time to fill the line up before the turbo gets any oil.
So there is the good, and the bad ( meaning I have to take the turbo off to get the restrictor on for proper use).
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posted July 03, 2009 03:15 PM
dropping the turbo is pretty easy though, especially compared to crank bearings.
Yeah they said the hole is .035 or .040 " ....
should make my gravity return work better too!
That restrictor is meant for the ball bearing turbo's, just so anyone else out there reading this, if you have plain bearings or bushing turbo, do not do this mod...
The ball bearing turbo needs much less oil than the bushing turbo's
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posted July 03, 2009 03:19 PM
I am guessing thats the reason many bottom ends were getting burned up... the turbo was getting all the oil, and the crank/ rods were being starved.
Maybe we should make a call to Himini and tell them the trubo's are to be used on bikes with no coolant lines hooked up....? Just to be safe?
I did some more digging around on Psychobike turbo forum and many have been doing this for quite some time though.
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posted July 03, 2009 04:05 PM
Good idea.
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posted July 04, 2009 06:39 AM
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I am guessing thats the reason many bottom ends were getting burned up... the turbo was getting all the oil, and the crank/ rods were being starved.
Maybe we should make a call to Himini and tell them the trubo's are to be used on bikes with no coolant lines hooked up....? Just to be safe?
I did some more digging around on Psychobike turbo forum and many have been doing this for quite some time though.
Think G-force and you would also be partially correct.
Also, some ZX14 engines were just weak. The oil "port" to the #3 rod bearing isn't the best, and that is the last bearing that gets the oil, so it's usually the one that goes tits up first. It's a very complex problem.
But, if you plan on doing any drag racing/prolongued wheeling, you must have an oil pan with baffles in it, and the only one out there that I would trust is the Adams pan. Otherwise, it's "bad news bears".
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posted July 04, 2009 10:05 AM
whatever happend to your 14 iflyems?
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posted July 04, 2009 10:43 AM
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you must have an oil pan with baffles in it, and the only one out there that I would trust is the Adams pan. ars".
? baffles meaning internal walls of some sort?
Why not just keep the deeper OEM pan?
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posted July 04, 2009 11:46 AM
JDC, I don't think you will ever generate the g force to make it an issue on the street -traction
Also, with the additional oil system volumes associated with a turbo, especially one without an oil restrictor, It would probably be quite easy to pump allot of oil out of the pan, before the oil returned to the sump, so spinning the tire excessively, and revving the pissout out of it are things we may want to avoid, especially on turbo bikes without a scavenge pump
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posted July 04, 2009 02:36 PM
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I am guessing thats the reason many bottom ends were getting burned up... the turbo was getting all the oil, and the crank/ rods were being starved.
Maybe we should make a call to Himini and tell them the trubo's are to be used on bikes with no coolant lines hooked up....? Just to be safe?
I did some more digging around on Psychobike turbo forum and many have been doing this for quite some time though.
Think G-force and you would also be partially correct.
Also, some ZX14 engines were just weak. The oil "port" to the #3 rod bearing isn't the best, and that is the last bearing that gets the oil, so it's usually the one that goes tits up first. It's a very complex problem.
But, if you plan on doing any drag racing/prolongued wheeling, you must have an oil pan with baffles in it, and the only one out there that I would trust is the Adams pan. Otherwise, it's "bad news bears".
I converted it to a lot of cash.
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posted July 05, 2009 08:46 AM
here is the oil inlet on my turbo, from garrett.
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posted July 05, 2009 08:57 AM
hmmmm, mine didn't have a restrictor....
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posted July 05, 2009 09:06 AM
also i was going to use the oil cooler water lines to cool the turbo, since i wont be using it anymore.
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posted July 05, 2009 11:52 AM
Lyle, no restrictor here either on mine.
I quote:
also i was going to use the oil cooler water lines to cool the turbo, since i wont be using it anymore.
so yo replaced your oil cooler or just go without?
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posted July 05, 2009 12:21 PM
i don't have an oil cooler with the adams pan.
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iflyems
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posted July 05, 2009 03:37 PM
Nobody has an oil cooler with the Adams pan.
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