Bently
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posted May 10, 2009 08:00 AM
New gearing sucks!
Is anyone else running 16/43 at 62 inches? I can't keep the front down and can't get the throttle pinned in first at all. went 9.38 went faster with stock rear gear. might go back or maybe go to 64 inches. And how should I set my shock up to help with the wheelies?
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eklipse636

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posted May 10, 2009 08:11 AM
Go out with the rear wheel a couple more inches and that should help! I like the 16/43 gearing, but like was said, its up to your preference.
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Kaw Man
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posted May 10, 2009 08:19 AM
Can you run 16/43 on a ZX14 making almost 200hp at 62" long.
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BobC

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posted May 10, 2009 08:24 AM
We all know that generally:
If you can't get WOT without wheelying you could use more wheelbase
If it spins you need more grip.
If you can get WOT without either of the above you could use more power.
The fourth thing that affects all of this is riding technique (or skill).
It's this process of analysing data and adjusting things that makes it so much more than just turning up and thrashing the bike.
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Bently
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posted May 10, 2009 09:10 AM
Well stock rear gear got me 1.45 60fts and 9.14, but at this gearing and 62 inches I guess my skills are lacking.
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posted May 10, 2009 09:17 AM
16/41 set the shock to > turn in the adjustment screws on the rear shock ( top and bottom ) all the way in and back off 1/4 turn ...
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posted May 10, 2009 09:46 AM
I think your right smoking 41 is what I was thinking as well.
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Red1

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posted May 10, 2009 11:38 AM
Edited By: Red1 on 10 May 2009 19:39
Bently,
Did you try 16/42? 16/43 might be too much gear at stock wheelbase.
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Bently
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posted May 10, 2009 06:26 PM
I'm at 62 inches but I think it's still to much
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kaw-rick
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posted May 10, 2009 06:28 PM
I love 16-43. I spray mine it doesnt lift that bad lol.
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Bently
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posted May 10, 2009 06:38 PM
Well wish I knew what you where doing that I'm not. guess my skills left me over the 6 month winter span.
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posted May 10, 2009 06:42 PM
quote: I love 16-43. I spray mine it doesnt lift that bad lol.
what are you using, hair spray?
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posted May 10, 2009 06:43 PM
im a little longer than 62, 16-48 works for me..
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eb2318
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posted May 10, 2009 06:49 PM
im running 16/43 and im at 641/2 and im doing a little of both right now first i was spinning bad and I let some air out went to12psi and then i started wheeling can't wot it either. but im 200 suited and at my weight I cant go 16/42 can I? and my 60 are 1.50 &1.52
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kaw-rick
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posted May 11, 2009 03:08 AM
80 shot hairspray.But only 1.48 sixty ft.
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posted May 11, 2009 04:41 AM
quote: im running 16/43 and im at 641/2 and im doing a little of both right now first i was spinning bad and I let some air out went to12psi and then i started wheeling can't wot it either. but im 200 suited and at my weight I cant go 16/42 can I? and my 60 are 1.50 &1.52
Well I'm 220 unsuited and could go 1.45 60fts with stock rear and 1 down in the front so yes you should beable to go 16/42, I think for now I'm going back to stock.
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kawasakijockey

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posted May 11, 2009 06:11 AM
I weigh 210 unsuited and 16/43 and 44 will wheelie at 90% throttle. I think the stock shock is the limit here.
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eb2318
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posted May 11, 2009 06:20 AM
so 16/42 or change for the 08 busa shock? at 16/42 can you wot it?
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kawasakijockey

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posted May 11, 2009 06:27 AM
You can wot with 16/42 and still have some tire lift. Mine weren't high but it definately pulled the wheel a little.
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dbeadling
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posted May 11, 2009 06:29 AM
somebody told me the other day that the front wheel belonged on the ground most of the time. and I told him why wear out two tires when you can save money and only wear out one.
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eb2318
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posted May 11, 2009 06:34 AM
my bad bently i went all the way to the botttom of page didnt read your response, but about the shock, with it can you really wot it, at my weight?
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eb2318
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posted May 11, 2009 06:37 AM
thanks kawasakijockey? you have stock shock?
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ZX14Mike
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posted May 11, 2009 06:38 AM
quote: so 16/42 or change for the 08 busa shock? at 16/42 can you wot it?
I can............LOL!
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kawasakijockey

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posted May 11, 2009 06:43 AM
Edited By: kawasakijockey on 11 May 2009 14:44
quote: thanks kawasakijockey? you have stock shock?
Completely stock. I am not spending the money on an aftermarket so I will ride around my problems trying to optimize my clutch and gearing. I might eventually be back at 16/42 myself if these wheelies keep going into 3rd gear. I should add that I sit at 64inches, not 62.
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posted May 11, 2009 09:36 AM
quote: im a little longer than 62, 16-48 works for me..
wee
Wheelie,
What gearing did you have before 16-48 and how does it compare? (do you have to short shift first gear, do you cross the line @ the top of 4th etc.....?
I have been advised to try 16-47or 48 but It would be nice to have an idea what to exspect.
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