wrongway
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posted May 09, 2009 05:35 AM
 Edited By: wrongway on 9 May 2009 13:39
Does the PCV connect to the plug into the ECU or the fuel injector harness ?
If it does plug into the ECU , are the harnesses and ecu the same for the 06-07 ?
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johnbull
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posted May 09, 2009 09:25 AM
Not sure about that Roy.
Will let you know within the next couple of days as the damn postman still hasnt brought me my PC5.
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posted May 09, 2009 04:57 PM
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10 throttle position columns (up from 9 on PCIIIusb)
those are only at 15%?
I think they are tyring to combat Bazzaz
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posted May 13, 2009 11:04 AM
Just finished installing my PC5 on my 2007 ZX14 engined race car along with autotune. It started up first shot with no problems and the AFR readout on the PC looks good. I will be running it this weekend to start mapping with the autotune.
Can anyone recommend what target AFR I should be looking at? It is used for circuit racing and fuel economy is not an issue.
I'll let you all know how it goes.
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posted May 13, 2009 11:07 AM
Roy,
I bought mine throgh fuel-moto. It does match up with the 06-07 harness. Plugs into the same connector as the PC3 did, not into the ECU. The connector is different to the one you show in the picture above.
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posted May 13, 2009 11:10 AM
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Just finished installing my PC5 on my 2007 ZX14 engined race car along with autotune. It started up first shot with no problems and the AFR readout on the PC looks good. I will be running it this weekend to start mapping with the autotune.
Can anyone recommend what target AFR I should be looking at? It is used for circuit racing and fuel economy is not an issue.
I'll let you all know how it goes.
13:1 will give you the best number for the dyno, and 12.8/9:1 will give you the best number if you get a lot of fresh air (ram air) to the intake. These are WOT numbers btw.
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wrongway
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posted May 13, 2009 02:04 PM
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Roy,
I bought mine throgh fuel-moto. It does match up with the 06-07 harness. Plugs into the same connector as the PC3 did, not into the ECU. The connector is different to the one you show in the picture above.
ok , that is good. I wonder why the PowerCommander site shows that the 2009 only uses the PC5 and the other years only use the PC3.
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posted May 18, 2009 07:47 AM
OK... So after reading this thread again, there wasn't many questions answered about the 08 zx14. You guys told me in another post that the pcIII off my 06 won't fit the 08. I just called to order the pcv and the company I was going to order it from isn't sure if it will work with a 08, bc dynojets website says 09 only... SO, do I need to order a pcIII or the pcv for the 09 and it will fit my 08?
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posted May 18, 2009 08:03 AM
Schnitz is listing them for '06-'09.
http://www.schnitzracingstore.com/catalogs/catalog.asp?prodid=5119978&showprevnext=1
I'd think only the maps wouldn't be compatible.
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posted May 18, 2009 08:09 AM
So what would I do about a map?? Would my only options be a custom map or autotune? Don't have the $$ for either...
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posted May 18, 2009 08:11 AM
I just talked with my dealer about getting the PCV for my '07. He told me absolutely no problem. He was not sure why they listed it that way but he knows it will work. I am going to get the auto tune as well.
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posted May 18, 2009 08:17 AM
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So what would I do about a map?? Would my only options be a custom map or autotune? Don't have the $$ for either...
Borrow someone's autotuner just long enough for it to build you a map....
or install the map into the PC5 long hand.
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posted May 18, 2009 08:27 AM
Edited By: dubious on 18 May 2009 16:34
yes you can cunt and paste the pc3 map into the pc5, except you will have to make cells for the 15% TPS column.
This can be done with the pc5 and autotune, or make 15 % column cells by putting in assimilated numbers from the corresponding ones in the 10% and 20%...
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posted May 18, 2009 08:32 AM
Ok, just got off the phone with schnitz tech. He told me that my pcIII off my 06 will work fine on the 08. The pv5 works on ALL 2006-2009 zx14's.
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DogoZX
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posted May 18, 2009 08:45 AM
But where can you get a PC5 map for an '06-'07?
The PC site doesn't have any listed.
'06-'07's would need different maps than '08-'09's wouldn't they?
You would have to manually enter each cell value to install a PC3 map onto a PC5 correct?
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posted May 18, 2009 08:53 AM
Edited By: dubious on 18 May 2009 16:55
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yes you can cunt and paste the pc3 map into the pc5, except you will have to make cells for the 15% TPS column.
You do NOT have to manually enter everycell, just the 15% TPS assimilated numbers
This can be done with the pc5 and autotune, or make 15 % column cells by putting in assimilated numbers from the corresponding ones in the 10% and 20%...
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Ok, just got off the phone with schnitz tech. He told me that my pcIII off my 06 will work fine on the 08. The pv5 works on ALL 2006-2009 zx14's.
The only difference is the size of the injectors, 33 lb vs 08-09 are 40 lb.
Use the appropriate map for the model year, but any PC3 or 5 plugs in.
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posted May 18, 2009 09:13 AM
Damn... Now I figure this out... When I posted I bought the new bike someone said it wouldn't work... Thanks dubious!
Even though the injectors are different, that has nothing to do with the performance of the pc I assume...
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posted May 18, 2009 09:31 AM
Edited By: dubious on 18 May 2009 17:33
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Ok, just got off the phone with schnitz tech. He told me that my pcIII off my 06 will work fine on the 08. The pv5 works on ALL 2006-2009 zx14's.
I am trusting your info above .
I was not sure if the plugs and wire locations in the plug had changed
I do know they take different maps due to the injectors for sure
PC function has not changed.
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posted May 18, 2009 09:42 AM
The info cam directly from the tech's mouth. I have no idea where 06redzx14 got his information from telling me they won't work...
So the pc's ARE in fact compatable, just the maps are different...
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posted May 18, 2009 09:52 AM
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posted May 18, 2009 10:06 AM
I actually have a PCIII from a 2005 ZX10 on my bike. I had to cut n paste the 06 zx14 map into it, which was actually really easy to do. Actually, the zx10 PCIII is better because it gives me the option of the extra 2000+/- rpms that the 10 has if I ever need it, where the zx14 one is disabled. Dont know if you can enable the higher rpms or not on a zx14 specific Power Commander. ?
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posted May 18, 2009 07:17 PM
I have a 06 ,if I put a pipe & apc5 with auto tune ,then later pull the flys ,will it remap it's self?
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posted May 18, 2009 07:30 PM
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I have a 06 ,if I put a pipe & apc5 with auto tune ,then later pull the flys ,will it remap it's self?
Yes, it will take a few runs/cycles to fully adjust. Dubious has a good understanding of the pcv and bazzaz, he could verify this I believe.
P.S. PULL THOSE FLIES!!!
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posted May 18, 2009 07:49 PM
Any horsepower benfits putting 08-09 injectors in 06-07 z x-14 with the PC5?
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posted May 19, 2009 06:57 AM
Edited By: bigdtd on 19 May 2009 15:05
the pclll for an 06,07 has a different part number 224-411 than one for an 08,09 234-411 on brock's site FYI
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