KaiBosh
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posted April 09, 2009 02:56 PM
Make your own TRE... Please verify info?
I know this subject has been beaten to death, dug up and then beaten some more, but... The 'other forum' disappearing has complicated the trail of information on the subject, and things get a little hazy following the remaining bread crumbs.
The best information I can find on making your own TRE 006a (for flies out) is this:
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=25974&pagenumber=2
The picture is pretty clear, I just want to verify the nitty-gritty stuff. Are people using a 270 ohm resistor to emulate the 006a? Also, is it the 'green' wire that you pull and then attach the resistor which you then ground?
What ever happened to the promised TRE that would keep the stock gear indicator working for the ZX-14? Was that just vapour-ware in the end? The loss of the GI is not a killer for me, if I need to do this in order to avoid backfiring, etc.
Would this home-made TRE 006a and the marble trick be all a guy needs to do to stop major backfires on a full exhaust / PC-III combo? Thanks for any further info on the subject.
Oh, and please for the love of God and all that is Holy don't let Hub see this post - he will surely reply with some video involving googly-eyed dildos wobbling around with hair made of resistors or something.
  
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DogoZX
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posted April 09, 2009 03:14 PM
A TRE stopped all of my backfiring issues. Took the marble out after the install.
The mystical X-TRE is a no go for our bikes. Apparently, it can't be made to work on our bikes because of the CAN system. (I know nothing about the CAN system so someone else would have to explain it.)
Sorry I cant' help with the proper resistor. I bought a GIPro.
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pissear
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posted April 10, 2009 12:22 PM
Help me! I can't stop laughing!
"...wobbling around with hair made of resistors or something."
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pissear
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posted April 10, 2009 12:25 PM
Look at that avatar that answered you!
OHm my stomach!
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masszx14
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posted April 10, 2009 12:57 PM
Hub,
show them that dildo! 
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faz
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posted April 10, 2009 12:59 PM
 Edited By: faz on 10 Apr 2009 21:02
I put a 'how-to' together in the old forum, after I installed my TRE008, and it now can be found in this new forum location. (please feel free to delete the link if not allowed.)
I believe to emulate the 6th gear (TRE008), you need 220 ohms or so, and to emulate neutral (N) (TRE006a), you need 1k ohms. In my how-to, it says it should be connected between the two cables, but you should be able to go directly from red/green to resistor to any ground (instead of blk cable.)
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KaiBosh
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posted April 10, 2009 02:07 PM
Thanks a lot faz, and thanks for the link to the new forum that I had no idea existed. There is plenty of room for more forums, they aren't competing in any way.
Well Hub? Do you agree with the resistor values? It's 'N' I want to see on the display to get the equivalent of a TRE006a?
I don't understand why this information is so obscure - surely anyone with a full exhaust had to do something about the backfiring?
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faz
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posted April 10, 2009 02:19 PM
Edited By: faz on 10 Apr 2009 22:20
My info on 1k for N is based on another member's pm to me (from a previous forum) back when I was looking into this.
To the best of my knowledge, you want to be fooling the ECU to think it is in neutral, so it continues to follow N mapping and doesn't totally cut off fuel on closed throttle and this takes care of the backfiring. I believe some people were able to achieve similar results by playing with the mapping in the 3.5k rpm range too.
Anyhow, I have slip ons and TRE008 and backfiring doesn't bother me much. I don't think I will be taking the flies off, so using the 'N' mapping is not going to be an option for me, at least until I get the flies out (if I do it.) But if I do, I will get the bike dyno tuned anyway and try and get rid of the backfiring with PC3 first.
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pissear
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posted April 10, 2009 04:48 PM
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KBosh: Well Hub? Do you agree with the resistor values?
Not according to the FSM. According to the abstract, the practicals say use any resistor you want. It will cause the same effect as if the MustankModders think they can throw a resistor on secondary 02 they removed to clear the code is the same ass wordage in every car or bike manual and you wonder why I not only dick slap the bike boys is car guys have the same Ohm's Lack Of Law.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9V4JTjFMac You know not to click on the dickflick. I let MustangModders dot com know watt I think of their same theory is Ivan could be there talking and they'd suck it up but where is the FSM [in all this] and the fundamental code breaker is no resistor will help. So a slapping I will go. When that dick looks in the camera dead pan.... It's classic as if to look at you going >>>> ?????? Dare ya go is WATT? You didn't get it? And then the dead pan looking at you in a blank stare is wondering who the fuck Is Ohms?
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KBosh: It's 'N' I want to see on the display to get the equivalent of a TRE006a?
... had to do something about the backfiring?
I don't know who this Ohms guy is? But if it is 'N' you want to see and it is off of the GPS. Say we had a wire out of one side of the connector and the 'N' came on?
If you say, 'yes you need a resistor'; then you need to watch this video.
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jkdreda
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posted April 10, 2009 07:11 PM
Excellent work there with the video Hub 
You had a few other ones some might have forgotten,
plese, do share them again!
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KaiBosh
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posted April 11, 2009 12:23 AM
Wait a second Hub... I thought you were the one pushing for just using a resistor instead of buying a TRE? Now what are you saying?! AAAAUUURRRRGGHHHHH.....
I WATCHED THE WHOLE THING GOD HELP ME
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pissear
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posted April 11, 2009 03:33 AM
Edited By: pissear on 11 Apr 2009 11:40
It continues to be chaos because no one is reading the FSM and that electrical concept. If you cannot walk it with a resistor, [means any resistor does the same effect]; then why not throw up my hands, forget explaining no measured resistance will matter is pick a resistor and solder it up or pull the wire out of the connector or call Ivan for a plug and play.
It is not Ivan's fault, nor is it my fault I tried to point it out in the FSM in so many ways [are only 3 absolute ways to get there] is more you need your god to help you figure it out cause that video is shop book insulting is again, we are not on the same page in the concept of your generic computer bike/car wire harness to the ECU.
Both are the same animal and the car guys are just as Ohmless as the next cardboard house is call it as some garage has a car or bike with a dangling wire problem.
So to be fair and objective is not to take sides but to walk the concept so you can choose which side you see are 3 absolutes going on is here we go:
1. If I pulled a wire out of a connector = I'd walk away, it's done.
2. If I pulled the connector off of the wire harnesss = I'd walk away, it's done.
3. If I call Ivan and install his deal = I'd walk away, it's a done deal.
Where the FSM says: "(no signal is recognized in usable range, short or open)" > Where do you see me pushing just the resistor or buying from Ivan if I am pointing out in so many ways, the 3 basic wire variables that are right in front of the very back of the Factory Service Mustang's ass is gets you there in so many words OR LESS (time and money spent, hone knee).
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KaiBosh
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posted April 11, 2009 04:27 AM
Please Hub, I beg of you... Just this once...
Can you just clearly state your opinion on the matter, or is it really just not possible for you to do this?
IS THE RESISTOR ON THE GREEN WIRE THE WAY TO DO IT OR NOT.
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pissear
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posted April 11, 2009 05:10 AM
Green Wire = Yes, Correct. Any resistor handy is dandy , go see Tandy. (Radio Shack)
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pissear
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posted April 11, 2009 05:12 AM
Want the one out of my dick key prop dill?
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