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posted August 12, 2008 03:21 PM
Filled Up With 110 Octane Leaded Fuel. Am I in Trouble?
While riding my ZX-14 with a couple of friends this weekend, they stopped at a station that offered 100 and 110 octane fuel. I THINK that the 110 was leaded. Following their lead I filled up with the 110 octane. Will this harm the engine? At $9.25 a gallon I don't plan on making this a habit but wanted to "try it out". Any advice would be appreciated.
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CrotchRocket
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posted August 12, 2008 03:25 PM
 Edited By: CrotchRocket on 12 Aug 2008 16:25
All you really did was waste your $$$...I 'll bet ya that gas was old !!!
87 octane burns faster than that hi octane stuff!!!
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smokinzx14
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posted August 12, 2008 03:26 PM
It will hurt nothing but your wallet ... it will kill some power because of the unneeded octane ..
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nyc zx-14
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posted August 12, 2008 03:29 PM
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All you really did was waste your $$$...I 'll bet ya that gas was old !!!
87 octane burns faster than that hi octane stuff!!!
Thanks for the replies. Lesson learned. LOL
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Hurricane
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posted August 12, 2008 04:15 PM
Can you run 87 octane on the 14 without causing any problems? What are the draw backs?
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ratbyk
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posted August 12, 2008 04:24 PM
I used 87 octane in my ZX11 for 54,000 and now have over 13,000 on my 14. Never been a whimper. No signs of detonation on the plugs. Don't lug the engine down (WOT @2000rpm) and you should be fine.
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posted August 12, 2008 05:17 PM
Actually you could wreck the spark plugs from riding at street speeds on race fuel. Seen it happen to other bikes and just happend to myself on my Busa. Was running 108 and it ruined the plugs. Bike started running like crap at anything over 8000 rpms. replaced the plugs and topped off with 92 pump gas and runs fine. If you looked at the plugs close it had lead imbedded in the electrode and a coating of it on the insulator as well and then statred miss firing.
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nyc zx-14
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posted August 12, 2008 05:50 PM
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Actually you could wreck the spark plugs from riding at street speeds on race fuel. Seen it happen to other bikes and just happend to myself on my Busa. Was running 108 and it ruined the plugs. Bike started running like crap at anything over 8000 rpms. replaced the plugs and topped off with 92 pump gas and runs fine. If you looked at the plugs close it had lead imbedded in the electrode and a coating of it on the insulator as well and then statred miss firing.
Is this an IMMEDIATE risk or one that can happen over a few tankfulls? This is my 1st tank of the stuff. Should I drain the tank or just burn through it THIS time and never use it again?
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Bently
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posted August 12, 2008 06:09 PM
Well it took me 2 tanks and about 225 miles to ruin my plugs. I would take my chance and top off with pump gas and run it thru. If it starts missing just replace the plugs.
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posted August 12, 2008 10:29 PM
You ARE in trouble......the leaded fuel will kill the catalytic exhaust. Dump the fuel.
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nczx14
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posted August 13, 2008 08:06 AM
Or dump the stock cans for some slipons or a full system.
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posted August 13, 2008 08:20 AM
I didn't know that the US allowed leaded fuel of any kind, it will clog your catalytic converter.
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mokaw
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posted August 13, 2008 04:35 PM
So what's the best to use, 87 or 89?
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posted August 13, 2008 04:37 PM
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You ARE in trouble......the leaded fuel will kill the catalytic exhaust. Dump the fuel.
That's what I was thinkin'. 
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posted August 13, 2008 07:19 PM
just go run the shit out of it, or drain it and use for aftershave
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posted August 13, 2008 08:17 PM
Couldn't find a siphon hose laying around (I KNOW I have one SOMEPLACE lol) so took it out for a long, fast ride and burned up all the fuel. Bike's running fine.
I don't THINK the cats in the bike are like cats in a car. Since I gutted the center pipe out of the cans, I can SEE the honeycomb wall of the rear of the cat inside the can. I used a welding rod to probe through the holes in it and found that on the other side of the "grill" is a whole lot of NOTHING!
In a car's cat, the cat is like a fine, deep, ceramic honeycomb. The cat in the bike seems NOTHING like that. Looks impossible to clog with vapors.
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posted August 14, 2008 04:23 AM
Edited By: BobC on 14 Aug 2008 05:34
The problem is the leaded fuel ruins the catalytic converter chemically, it poisons it. It might not be clogged up but it will not be removing the harmful stuff from the exhaust gas any longer.
The exhaust contains a core of ceramics coated with powdered catalysts that contain metals such as platinum, palladium and rhodium. These are contaminated by using leaded fuel.
Do you have an exhaust emissions check in your State? The bike could fail.
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nyc zx-14
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posted August 14, 2008 06:10 PM
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The problem is the leaded fuel ruins the catalytic converter chemically, it poisons it. It might not be clogged up but it will not be removing the harmful stuff from the exhaust gas any longer.
The exhaust contains a core of ceramics coated with powdered catalysts that contain metals such as platinum, palladium and rhodium. These are contaminated by using leaded fuel.
Do you have an exhaust emissions check in your State? The bike could fail.
Gotcha.
How do our bikes pass inspection when the exhaust is changed to a Muzzy or any other after market pipe which are all basically insulated straight pipes?
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bigdtd
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posted August 14, 2008 06:16 PM
no inspections in my state, whew
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BobC
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posted August 15, 2008 02:03 AM
Edited By: BobC on 15 Aug 2008 03:03
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Gotcha. How do our bikes pass inspection when the exhaust is changed to a Muzzy or any other after market pipe which are all basically insulated straight pipes?
Well, it depends where you are and that's why I asked the question.
In some places something like Akrapovic pipe would fail on noise and in other places removing the Cat might not be allowed.
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posted August 16, 2008 06:28 AM
Your bike is going TO BLOW UP LIKE THE CHALLENGER! RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHH
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