murlyn
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posted April 01, 2008 09:16 PM
 Edited By: murlyn on 1 Apr 2008 22:18
2008 Muzzy M14 Exhaust Systems
NEW - 2008 ZX-14 Muzzy M14 Exhaust Systems
* Large diameter tapered headpipes.
* Increased ground clearance. (Under engine design meets AMA Supersport rules)
* Integrated oxygen sensor bung and plug.
* Dyno tested at over 200hp!*
* Available in round aluminum, oval stainless, oval carbon fiber, oval titanium and the M10 stainless megaphone.
*Standard corrected hp. Run with race fuel & Power Commander
2008 ZX-14 Muzzy M14 Exhaust Systems
  
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KawaBonzai
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posted April 01, 2008 10:03 PM
Pics of other cans?
Kudos !
Any chance for pics of all the cans?
... Bonzai
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BlackMagic14
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posted April 01, 2008 11:18 PM
GREAT PIPE!!! I will have pictures up of the megaphone style hopefully sometime this week. They were in the final stages of production last week
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murlyn
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posted April 02, 2008 06:30 AM
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Kudos !
Any chance for pics of all the cans?
... Bonzai
We should have pics of the M10 Stainless Megaphone up by tomorrow.
Murray MacNeill
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ninja12
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posted April 02, 2008 06:48 AM
I really appreciate the HP numbers and the details on whats required to get them.
*Standard corrected hp. Run with race fuel & Power Commander
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BlackMagic14
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posted April 02, 2008 08:20 AM
Mine made a LITTLE over 200 wink wink. and I think my Muzzy stickers shaved a couple of tenths off my E.T.
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KawaBonzai
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posted April 02, 2008 09:43 AM
HP numbers.
Hi there,
A couple questins from the newb here ...
1. Are the 200hp numbers based on a stock engine?
I found this statement made by Rob ...
"The new pipe is the result of our Pro Stock and 1530/1580 engine development. "
So ... that got me wondering if the HP numbers where on that engine build.
2. Is the M14 quieter than the Brocks Smeg?
Thanks,
... Bonzai
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NinjaNick
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posted April 02, 2008 01:37 PM
quote:
Hi there,
A couple questins from the newb here ...
1. Are the 200hp numbers based on a stock engine?
I found this statement made by Rob ...
"The new pipe is the result of our Pro Stock and 1530/1580 engine development. "
So ... that got me wondering if the HP numbers where on that engine build.
2. Is the M14 quieter than the Brocks Smeg?
Thanks,
... Bonzai
+1
Wonder if anyone knows and can provide proof?
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BlackMagic14
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posted April 02, 2008 02:50 PM
I can!! The M-14 oval can on my bike made more horsepower then my SMEG Barely but it did make 1 hp more at peak same MPH and E.T. with 330 times a little slower then they were on my SMEG which tells me it will get faster when we get the clutch worked out ...as soon as I get my Megphone M-14 I will post some other info on it and yes the oval can is quieter then the SMEG sounds really good and throaty though And I AM SURE the numbers were on a stock 14 engine, I DOUBT VERY SERIOUSLY IF A 1530/1580 engine only made 200 hp
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KawaBonzai
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posted April 02, 2008 02:54 PM
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I can!! The M-14 oval can on my bike made more horsepower then my SMEG Barely but it did make 1 hp more at peak same MPH and E.T. with 330 times a little slower then they were on my SMEG which tells me it will get faster when we get the clutch worked out ...as soon as I get my Megphone M-14 I will post some other info on it and yes the oval can is quieter then the SMEG sounds really good and throaty though And I AM SURE the numbers were on a stock 14 engine, I DOUBT VERY SERIOUSLY IF A 1530/1580 engine only made 200 hp
Thanks for the info. I saw on Muuzzy's site that their strokers make upwards of 240 HP, so I kind of thought the 200hp was a stock build.
Do you think the M14 makes more HP under the curve like the the M10 did over the Smeg?
The oval can doesnt look too bad, and if it produces the same HP over the Smeg I may just roll with that.
Please please please post pics of the Muzzy Meg when you can.
Thanks,
... Bonzai
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Nelson Taylor
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posted April 02, 2008 07:39 PM
Now this pipe looks the same as the older Muzzy stainless pipe.
I've read the description but can anyone compare the old pipe vs this M14.
Is the larger diameter head pipes the "main" difference and why its making this power?
Honestly I thought the unveiling on this M14 was some unique designed pipe.
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bigdtd
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posted April 02, 2008 07:50 PM
looks like the old pipe, i thing the front end has been redesighed tho
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BlackMagic14
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posted April 02, 2008 10:16 PM
New Headers same canister. There is a Megaphone style M-14. I think they are gonna use all their traditional style canisters with the new header designs
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KawaBonzai
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posted April 03, 2008 08:14 AM
Hmmm....
I'm not sold on the 200hp claim if the only thing that has been redesigned are the "Large diameter tapered headpipes".
Was the 200hp a dyno map on a dyno, or street/track map?
It's too early in the product stages to get a true feeling of what the M14 has to offer. Maybe with more rider reports or a detailed description of the 200hp setup things will become more clear.
... Bonzai
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swiftkart
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posted April 03, 2008 08:15 AM
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I can!! The M-14 oval can on my bike made more horsepower then my SMEG Barely but it did make 1 hp more at peak same MPH and E.T. with 330 times a little slower then they were on my SMEG which tells me it will get faster when we get the clutch worked out ...as soon as I get my Megphone M-14 I will post some other info on it and yes the oval can is quieter then the SMEG sounds really good and throaty though And I AM SURE the numbers were on a stock 14 engine, I DOUBT VERY SERIOUSLY IF A 1530/1580 engine only made 200 hp
The AD says Dyno tested at OVER 200hp!*, it doesn't say just to 200hp so it could have came from testing on a 1530/1580.
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BlackMagic14
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posted April 03, 2008 10:17 AM
Brocks SMEG made what 195 197?? Put that same pipe in better air and it will make 200. Trust me this thing makes very good power I was surprised, I cant wait to get my megaphone in it should make even more power
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bsebastian
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posted April 04, 2008 09:36 AM
I have a full Muzzy system, stainless header with titanium muffler. What would the performance gains be between my pipe & the M14? Does anyone know? If so please let me know. Thanks again!
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BlackMagic14
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posted April 04, 2008 12:34 PM
I would guess 8 HP or more if what I remember about the original Muzzy pipe is accurate. this info has been verified by RIckey Gadson as well he told me the M-14 made between 6-10 more HP at peak then the M-10. you may could just buy the midpipe and header assembly and keep your canister It is definately worth checking into if ULTIMATE performance is your goal.
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KawaBonzai
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posted June 11, 2008 12:30 PM
Yo!
Ok, some time has passed under the bridge, or was that supposed to be water under the bridge? Anyway ....
I need to bite the bullet on either the Brocks SMEG or Muzzy M14/Megaphone combo. bike night last night was tuff on my wife's feet, she said too damned hot!
Time to rip off the stock exhaust and do the cookie cutter Flies+PC3-USB+Exhaust build.
So the question is now that we have folks who have switched from Brocks SMEG to M14-Mega, was it worth it?
Who has better support, Brocks or Muzzy? I see Rob posting here but I don't see any activity from Brock on the 08 ZX-14 anymore.
Thanks,
... Bonzai
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Bently
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posted June 11, 2008 12:47 PM
You won't ever beat Brocks map support in my opion. I'm sure the m14 is a fine pipe as well.
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drewzx-14
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posted June 11, 2008 01:21 PM
I just ordered my Muzzy M14 SS system w/ carbon can.........Should be arriving sometime at the end of this week. I got a great deal on it from Starcycle.com. I spoke with Lynn and he gave me something that I could not refuse. I will post pictures of the install and definitely write up about the whole installation. I cant wait to for the box...Its like christmas again. I also will be removing my secondaries.....so I know I will have a big improvement in feel overall
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KawaBonzai
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posted June 11, 2008 01:33 PM
Yo!
+1 for pointing that link out. I see the M14 / M10 combo for 799.00. Hmmm, I may be making a purchase tongiht.
I just realized for street use I don't think I'd (my butt dyno) be able to tell the difference between Muzzy's or Brocks.
I'm so damned confused. 
... Bonzai
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countersteer
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posted June 11, 2008 02:46 PM
thanks for blowing up the spot on cheap pipes. the muzzy task force will probably shut em down now or make them sell it for full retail. thats where i was going to get mine from... about $750 delivered.
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KawaBonzai
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posted June 11, 2008 04:16 PM
Hmmm,
You are saying that Muzzy's does not know what its retailers are selling their products for?
Or, are you a employee of Muzzy's trying to artificially stimulate a supply/demand scenario? Hehe j/k.
I do not think the marketing folks at Muzzy's is that far out of touch with their own market segment, the 20% discount could be a stimulous to boost sales of a new product.
As iff purchasing a system wasn't confusing enough, now comes the economics. 
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shane661
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posted June 11, 2008 04:19 PM
Muzzy's drop ships the systems for Star Cycle...so I think they know the deal. ;-)
Shane
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