davej
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posted March 07, 2008 06:48 AM
ZX 14 valve adjustment
Is there anything I should know other than whats in the shop manual for adjusting valves? Tricks, things that can go wrong.
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smokinzx14
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posted March 07, 2008 07:48 AM
No tricks ......... Just take your time and don't rush ....Mostlikey they will be in spec or at the worst you will need to change one or two shims ... I have seen them with 15000 miles that needed no shiming ..
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davej
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posted March 07, 2008 08:23 AM
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zx12mark
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posted March 07, 2008 08:46 AM
before you take the cams out for shim swaps scratch marks on the timing chain and sprockets to get them back exactly the way they came out per the service manual.if not those little valves will be ratta tat tatting on the tops of the slugs...have funnnnnnnnnnnn.
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kaw now
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posted March 07, 2008 11:04 AM
I wouldn't scratch anything that is a rotating object in the engine, could give a stress point for possible failure. I would recommend clean off the oil from the chain link or area to be marked and use a paint pen or a sharpie and put a small mark on it that way. It would be nice to take a poll of 14 owners to see how many have checked their valves for adjustment and how many really needed to make any adjustments.
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FasterThanStink
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posted March 07, 2008 12:22 PM
I think HiMile did valve adjustments a couple times an did find a few that needed shimming at 15,000 miles.
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posted March 07, 2008 01:27 PM
quote:
No tricks ......... Just take your time and don't rush ....Mostlikey they will be in spec or at the worst you will need to change one or two shims ... I have seen them with 15000 miles that needed no shiming ..
try 30k miles
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posted March 07, 2008 02:37 PM
a scratch on a timing gear is not going to hurt anything. And it wont wipe off when you are cleaning everything up to reassemble, either. Trust me! Don't be stupid and put the mark on a mating or bearing surface though. Just toss it above the tooth in question.
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bbirdxx2000
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posted March 07, 2008 04:10 PM
I have 20,000 miles on mine and I dragrace, dealer wants $300.00 for the job. Should I wait until I get more miles. Don'nt mind spending the money, but if its not broke don'nt fix it.
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FasterThanStink
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posted March 07, 2008 04:44 PM
At 20,000 miles, personally I would spend the $$ and get it done. It is a preventive maintenance rather than a "if it ain't broke" issue.
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davej
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posted March 07, 2008 06:03 PM
I'll do the valves myself at 12000. The Kaw salesman who races a 600 at Miller Raceway has a Harley Mechanic do all his setup and fine tuning. The best mechanic for a brand bike doesn't always work for that dealer.
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zx12mark
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posted March 07, 2008 08:36 PM
I wouldn't scratch anything that is a rotating object in the engine, could give a stress point for possible failure.
it's harden fucking steel....i etched mine 30,000 miles ago.5 years.give me a break einstein.
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entropy
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posted March 08, 2008 04:34 AM
if possible, before you take the CCT off rotate the motor to TDC on #1, then tie wrap the chain tp the int and exh sprockets.
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kaw now
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posted March 08, 2008 07:09 PM
 Edited By: kaw now on 8 Mar 2008 19:10
12MARK you said put "scratch marks on the timing chain and sprockets to get them back exactly the way they came out per the service manual" I guess you didn't read the manual because there is this easy photo and cam gears already have marks on them.
Were you talking about your cranium? "it's harden fucking steel" Anyway stick to John Deere work
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zx12mark
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posted March 08, 2008 11:23 PM
Edited By: zx12mark on 8 Mar 2008 23:25
i guarantee you i can get it timed faster and back together CORRECTLY faster using the mark it method.
that pic dose not even show the lines stamped on the cam sprockets.
while your counting pins i'll be tightening the valve cover bolts.but that way is fine.it still accomplices the same procedure.
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ninja14
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posted March 08, 2008 11:44 PM
At 10K mine all checked close to the middle or tighter end of the range.........good for another 10K.
I had the valve cover off to stop the leak...so why not check 'em?.........
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posted March 09, 2008 06:55 AM
smokin, do you adjust em yourself?
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posted March 09, 2008 07:35 AM
Any idea's where the best price for a shim kit on-line..Thanks !!
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ninja14
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posted March 09, 2008 08:21 AM
If you are lucky sometimes you get a loose one and a tight one - swap those shims......
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zx12mark
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posted March 09, 2008 09:40 AM
i have at least 20 spare shims from my 91 zx11 and have bought some here and there when needed.this time i had 9 to adjust .i still had to buy 2 -2.35mm at the stealership for 10.00 a peice.ron ayers would be cheaper.
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