duncan
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posted November 03, 2007 03:13 PM
Best break in procedure?????????
WHATS THE BEST BREAK IN PROCEDURE? Should I follow manufactures recomendation or I'm hearing alot about "seat the rings hard and vast" what do you fellows think?
  
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shawnski
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posted November 03, 2007 03:16 PM
 Edited By: shawnski on 3 Nov 2007 16:19
many discussions on this in past here, you might want to look for it.
p/s: hey duncan what are you riding these days? busa or zx14 
that can depends on what kind of bike you have :d
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duncan
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posted November 03, 2007 03:27 PM
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many discussions on this in past here, you might want to look for it.
p/s: hey duncan what are you riding these days? busa or zx14
that can depends on what kind of bike you have :d
I'm leaning toward the busa only because it's much easier to pour the boost to. If I were going to ride a slightly modded bike it would probably be the 14. Honestly though both bikes are very refined machines that haul ass.
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shawnski
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posted November 03, 2007 03:46 PM
this is what i have always done in breaking procedure:
the first 100 miles, i took it easy. the biggest thing is you don't want the keep the rpm in one level for too long like going on highway and cruising at 60, 70 miles for a long time. you want to vary the engine rpm in different gears.
after that i normally raise the rpm to 9, 10,000 and give engine some stress in different gears but not racing it, then i let it sit and cool off. this will help all the parts sit on each other correctly.
i never used 4000 rpm for 1st 600 miles or no more than 8000 till 1000 miles.
never have any problems with any bikes in the past.
the most important thing is to change the oil no later than 600 miles. some like to do earlier.
it depends on indivdual.
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posted November 03, 2007 03:53 PM
hard and fast is better than slow an easy... LOL  ...:
no seriously , top gear full throttle roll ons, from 3-7000 rpm, and a couple of heat cycles
do not rev it high, it takes about 30 mins to break in the cam brgs, crank and rod brgs.
Then ur good to go.
The manufactures state the lengthly break in procedure to ensure you are familiar with the machine before pulling the trigger.
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Hawkman
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posted November 03, 2007 04:03 PM
I run it like I stole it. The few that I followed break in procedures turned out to be limp dicks.
Check out Brock's or Rickey's bikes right now. They got them and immediately took them down the 1/4 mile. No pussy footing with those bikes, and they're puttin' out big numbers.
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duncan
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posted November 03, 2007 04:09 PM
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I run it like I stole it. The few that I followed break in procedures turned out to be limp dicks.
Check out Brock's or Rickey's bikes right now. They got them and immediately took them down the 1/4 mile. No pussy footing with those bikes, and they're puttin' out big numbers.
There is no way to tell but it would be interesting to see HP differences if any if they had babyed them a little first.
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posted November 03, 2007 05:14 PM
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I run it like I stole it. The few that I followed break in procedures turned out to be limp dicks.
Check out Brock's or Rickey's bikes right now. They got them and immediately took them down the 1/4 mile. No pussy footing with those bikes, and they're puttin' out big numbers.
+1 Give er heck and change the oil and filter often.................. 
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CrotchRocket
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posted November 03, 2007 05:43 PM
You cant go wrong with what the manufacturer tells us to do for breakin...
If it's going to break it will with in the first couple hundred miles!!!
As it was said, change the oil often for the first couple hundred miles, to get those shavings out...
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posted November 03, 2007 07:12 PM
Here's what I Do. Rode my 08 easy for 20 miles then let it rip when ever I wanted to. two heat cycles in the first 40 miless. Then rode it some more and went to the track with 96 miles showing. And here is a quote from the guy I sold my last Busa to
By the way, his bike break in is fine - I have his 03 busa w/ 23K miles and it burns no oil and runs like a top. orig chain and sprockets just got replaced...
was going to kep her till 50K miles but am getting a hard on for that '08...
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posted November 03, 2007 07:46 PM
There are debates over this all of the time... I have friends that race cars and bikes... and they mainly say that the worst thing you can do on break in is to run at a steady RPM. In other words.. don't stay at 4000 RPMs for an extended period of time. I normally break my bikes in somewhere in the middle of suggested and the ride it like you stole it. I did wait until I got 600 miles on before I ran over 8000 RPMs... but that is just my choice... I wanted to make sure that the motor was put together with good parts before I hammered it. The newer litre bikes break ins are basically, 'ride it hard but don't hit the red line'. The bigger bikes still are more torque oriented and seem to require a more subtle approach... (Just another point of view). Good luck on whatever you buy... you can't lose now a days with any new bike you get!!!
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FasterThanStink
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posted November 03, 2007 10:04 PM
Break it in fast and it will be fast. Break it in slow and it will be slow.
Get those rings seated quickly.
http://mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
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duncan
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posted November 04, 2007 05:05 AM
GOOD INFO FELLOWS. thanks.
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posted November 04, 2007 06:49 AM
you can't break in what you don't have, pull the trigger and go for a ride
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posted November 04, 2007 07:39 AM
quote:
Break it in fast and it will be fast. Break it in slow and it will be slow
thats funny. wee
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posted November 04, 2007 01:35 PM
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Break it in fast and it will be fast. Break it in slow and it will be slow
thats funny. wee
If you want a dog......walk it. :d
Seriously.... Top gear full thottle 50-90 mph roll on passes to load (seat) the rings on the bores. Do this thru several heat and cooling cycles. Change (roll up and down) your throttle as you ride around town. Then you are done... ride the thing 
NO 11,000 rpm long high speed 185mph runs to the next state  Wait till later
Most important...Change that oil.. I did mine @ 400 & 1000.
Then again at 3000 mi. using NON synthetic till 3000
Then 3000 to 5000 after break in.. Changing it early and often gets all the little crappy bits out of your motor ( All motors as they break in lose little burrs and casting bits caused by machining processes its normal )
Happy riding
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Wheelie
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posted November 04, 2007 07:36 PM
quote:
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Break it in fast and it will be fast. Break it in slow and it will be slow
thats funny. wee
If you want a dog......walk it.
lol, if you want a Kaw milk it. wee
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posted November 04, 2007 07:58 PM
I broke my 2002 zx12 in slow...It definitely aint slow
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KaiBosh
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posted November 04, 2007 08:32 PM
every person I know who religiously followed the book (lol, 4000 rpm max for 500 miles?!) ended up with a dog of a bike that farted oil back through the air filter.
Ride hard, heat cycle the first few times, follow moto-tune ways and you will have a motor that pulls strong and lasts longer. changing oil after about 200km is the most important thing you can do as well.
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posted November 04, 2007 10:00 PM
Ask ten different mechanics or engine builders and you'll get ten different answers.
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duncan
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posted November 05, 2007 04:53 AM
There are multiple answers on here, but i like the idea of loading the bike several times through heat cycles.
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posted November 05, 2007 09:07 AM
Quote from Rickey Gadson on Psychobike
"You can expect to see anywhere from 174 to 178 from a BOX STOCK 08 ZX14.
It has been tested and proven that the Kawasaki ZX will pick up a good but of hp by properly breaking them in!"
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