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posted September 25, 2007 10:26 AM
 Edited By: smokinzx14 on 25 Sep 2007 11:31
The extra weight looks to be in the exhaust...We all know how to take care of that problem..  Port work to the head and better injectors , that will be a big plus ..Sounds like they did a little remapping also .( flys and timing )..More low end, more mid range and more top end power.........Look at the hole picture here guys > They made an allready great bike even better...Sounds to me that they made the hole power curve better and stronger and as us drag racers know more power though the curve will drop ETs and a smoother power curve make us faster.....I'll bet the new zx14 will be a tenth+ quicker than the old zx14 and that saying alot on allready rocket of a bike ... And this should be the icing on the cake > if they ported the head or changed port shape for more power as well as the injectors, they did it because of a loss in power because of new the exhaust ( Cats)... So gents with a good aftermark pipe the new zx14 should respond just as it did in the 06 But even better ..Done deal ....................................................................................................
As far as the colors make mine a silver one ... That red and black just plan sucks...The blue should be a good seller ..........
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warbird
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posted September 25, 2007 10:31 AM
Edited By: warbird on 25 Sep 2007 13:04
Here here Smokin................well put.  I was hoping it would be the same Silver as last years Canada model, but I'm not sure if it isn't the same color as the C14.........???
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posted September 25, 2007 10:32 AM
Can't wait until you get ahold of one Smokin'. Can we say 8.59 on a stock motored '08 14 set up like your '06 bike?
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smokinzx14
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posted September 25, 2007 10:40 AM
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Can't wait until you get ahold of one Smokin'. Can we say 8.59 on a stock motored '08 14 set up like your '06 bike?
It's possible ....One thing for sure is it will look a lot better running 8.60s than the Butt ugly 08 Busa....lol... J/K the Busa owners ...But that tail is Butt ugly ...
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djmjay
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posted September 25, 2007 10:40 AM
But did they get the cooling and oil consumption under control.
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smokinzx14
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posted September 25, 2007 10:53 AM
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But did they get the cooling and oil consumption under control.
What cooling and oil consumption problem ?? mine never ran hot or ever used a drop of oil ....600+ passes and uncounted top end runs and not a drop or over 3 bars on the temp gauge ...You must be talking about the 99 to 07 Busa that over heated...
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posted September 25, 2007 11:26 AM
Yea, I agree with Smokin. All the talk about weight savings and it's heavier. Has to be the extra catalytic converters etc. in the exhaust. Even more reason to get rid of the "rocket launchers".
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posted September 25, 2007 12:18 PM
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damn I love my red '06!
+1
kudo's to KHI for their improvements to the 250, that new bike is so awesome. As far as the rest, I just don't see anything thrilling over '07.
I was expecting more from the ZX14 considering the hype. Like significantly less weight, better aero's, better handling/suspension, colors, etc etc Adding a few HP (yawn) just isn't enought to get me to go trade mine this year. They didn't even improve the seat :P
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posted September 25, 2007 01:16 PM
I ran the bike damn near back to back this weekend and no problems either. As for the color, I kind of like that damn paint scheme. Now I wouldn't buy that shit but if it was green and black or something, maybe!
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djmjay
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posted September 25, 2007 01:23 PM
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But did they get the cooling and oil consumption under control.
What cooling and oil consumption problem ?? mine never ran hot or ever used a drop of oil ....600+ passes and uncounted top end runs and not a drop or over 3 bars on the temp gauge ...You must be talking about the 99 to 07 Busa that over heated...
Well according to the long term test and many owners there was a cooling issue especially in the desert southwest
where I live. The test also had an engine failure due to consumption. If I recall correctly these ZX14 may have been preproduction machines. I plan on purchasing either the 14 or the hayabusa soon for a cross country six month journey.
I hope someone will post the other colours soon,
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posted September 25, 2007 01:57 PM
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Well, I guess I will hang on to my '06 then. Some of you like the custom paint. Lets just say beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
As others have stated, the '08 motor may respond even better to after market exhaust systems with the better breathing of the new head. No changes to compression or throttle body size was a surprise. I am guessing that the ECU got a few tweaks to open the flys sooner in the lower gears to give the better low and mid range torque they advertise for '08. Since peak torque is the same, I am guessing it is mostly the ECU. The head and exhaust changes probably helped as well, but since peak torque is the same, again the ECU is probably the biggest change.
No variable valve timing like the Concours. That would have been nice to see.
Wonder if the ECU will work on the older machines?
Be interesting to see some dyno runs with the new bike.
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posted September 25, 2007 02:18 PM
i would consider my 14 long term tested and i have not had any problems with oil consumption or overheating. as far as cross country goes i went aprox. 750 miles in two days a couple of weekends ago and was reasonably comfy without risers, corbin or throttle-meister. this years "new" colours are last years non-u.s. except for the special ed so there are plenty of pics. glad i got a red '06. lovin the new klx, ninja 250 and zx-10! kawasaki is after blood
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posted September 25, 2007 02:58 PM
dmjay go park my car, then go buy a suzi ya troll the 14 would be way too much for you
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posted September 25, 2007 03:12 PM
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Yes, the new blue should look great.
I sure hope so but it's hard to say looking at some of those other paint jobs Kawi has come up with lately. Was really hoping for the dark Oceans blue from the euro model.
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posted September 25, 2007 03:17 PM
Midnight Saphire Blue sure does sound sexy, can't wait to see it.
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posted September 25, 2007 04:19 PM
wow, im almost appauled. they really bastardized the 14- a red frame? give me a fucking break, and they didnt even paint the ridges on the front fender but they did on the foreman grills? and all this talk about more power? what a let down. i really hoped kawi was gonna drop a fuckin bombshell for 08 and maybe offer a green and black zx14r...
im glad i bought the 06 and in black, anyone else feel the same?
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posted September 25, 2007 04:26 PM
I'm just happy they didn't put turn signal mirrors on it.
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smokinzx14
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posted September 25, 2007 04:28 PM
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wow, im almost appauled. they really bastardized the 14- a red frame? give me a fucking break, and they didnt even paint the ridges on the front fender but they did on the foreman grills? and all this talk about more power? what a let down. i really hoped kawi was gonna drop a fuckin bombshell for 08 and maybe offer a green and black zx14r...
im glad i bought the 06 and in black, anyone else feel the same?
Well countersteer it's a little early to tell how much power it has over the 06 zx14 ...RG and Brock said it had more power everywhere ....Before you jump the gun lets wait to see it on a dyno and the track .... You never know you maybe suprized .....
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posted September 25, 2007 04:39 PM
thats what im hopin for, but is a few overall hp worth selling mine for? to me, this looks like what happened to the zx12, "refined" but still very much the same. i was really anticipating a dramatic improvement, but youre right only time will tell.
things i would like to see:
no secondary butterflies to remove
lower gearing
plastic guard infront of headers, below radiator to clean up the look
race cut front fender like lyles zx10 fender conversion
smoothed foreman grills of course
oem stainless brake/clutch lines since they offer nice calipers and "petal" rotors
easier access to the battery
and maybe a multi-map selector but thats a bit excessive
i can see all this being done for basically the same msrp.
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posted September 25, 2007 04:53 PM
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They didn't even improve the seat
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Hawkman
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posted September 25, 2007 04:56 PM
Hmmm...how about I buy an 08 14, swap my plastics and exhaust, and then turn around and sell my 06 that looks like an 08?
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posted September 25, 2007 05:06 PM
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I was expecting more from the ZX14 considering the hype.
Was this hype from anywhere other than ourselves talking up the mods that were coming on the 08? Wishful thinking sort of thing? Or was Kawasaki spreading hype of their own?
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posted September 25, 2007 05:16 PM
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dmjay go park my car, then go buy a suzi ya troll the 14 would be way too much for you
that troll types like he parks cars for a living too
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posted September 25, 2007 05:19 PM
I think im correct in saying our 14 have 43mm throtlebodies. I dont see why kaw wont deliver a knockout blow. They bike im sure is excellent. I know i love mine. They need to raise the bar even higher. I guess sales arent a bike issue. I know i see very few 14 around and at events. Anyway i like the limited paint scheme. I let a friend ride my bike while i rode his for about 50 miles. He has a 2000 gsx 750. I dont see how anyone of size could ride these liter bikes. I could hardly move once we stopped. My friend loved the 14. That was two days ago. Hes talking about selling his bike to get one now. They would have to make major changes to get the busa in the class with the 14. Im not just talking about power. I will say the bike is ahead of the curve when it comes to a all around bike. I still say kaw just playing a game. They could do so much more if they wanted. It would be better to wait 4 or 5 more yrs to see what the companies come up with.
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posted September 25, 2007 05:24 PM
the 250 redesign is awesome
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