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posted July 09, 2007 09:52 AM
water wetter
Just bought me a bottle of this stuff, but I don't know how much I'm supposed to pour in. Any idea? Also, do I need to drain any coolant out before I add it or will it be ok to just pour some in?
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posted July 09, 2007 11:06 AM
The 14 has a 3.6 qt. cooling system. Water Wetter suggests one ounce per quart so that would be 3.6 oz.. Pour 3.6oz into a cup and see what you think. You might have room to just add it. You could always pour it in the overflow tank and it would be siphoned into the engine when hot. Stay COOL!!
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posted July 09, 2007 03:56 PM
 Edited By: fastestbusaaround on 9 Jul 2007 16:57
I used it like they recommended; not much diff, so I poured the whole bottle in; worked much better! Never runs over 1 bar above half now...not even in heavy 90+ degree stalled traffic. You need to drain all the coolant and just use distilled water for maximum cooling...otherwise you'll see zero effect.
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posted July 09, 2007 03:59 PM
Yup. Use only distilled water and drain some coolant out of the radiator. In my experiance adding to the overflow tank is hit or miss if it ends up in the radiator.
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posted July 09, 2007 04:59 PM
Edited By: fastestbusaaround on 9 Jul 2007 18:00
Agreed; I flushed the rad completely before I changed the mix. See my post in this thread.
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=32796&set_time=1184028960
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posted July 09, 2007 05:03 PM
I remember when I bought my ZX-12r. Everyone was pouring the whole bottle in. It's not what they recommend, but it worked well for me. One bottle, and the rest, distilled water.
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posted July 10, 2007 03:21 AM
My bike's overheating problems went away when I fitted the Titaniun TiForce exhaust system but I'd still like to ask:
Modern coolants contain corrosion inhibitors, as well as being an anti-freeze. Is there any chance that using an alternative such as Water Wetter and distilled water could introduce long-term problems ? Has anyone tried simply removing the thermostat, or tried to find out if Kawasaki have alternative 'stats for different countries ?
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posted July 10, 2007 03:57 AM
Well if I used just water and the water wetter, when winter time rolls around, I would have to put antifreeze back in right?
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posted July 10, 2007 04:06 AM
Depends on how cold it gets there..
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posted July 10, 2007 06:15 AM
I believe water wetter has the corrosion inhibitors, but not the anti-freeze properties. I have run it in street cars and motorcycles for years with no problems. It doesn't get very cold here though. One thing to remember is that ethlyene glycol increases cylinder head temps 1 degree for every 1 percent you use, so if you have a 50/50 water/glycol mix, you raise cylinder head temps approx 50 degrees.
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posted July 10, 2007 06:55 AM
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I believe water wetter has the corrosion inhibitors, but not the anti-freeze properties. I have run it in street cars and motorcycles for years with no problems. It doesn't get very cold here though. One thing to remember is that ethlyene glycol increases cylinder head temps 1 degree for every 1 percent you use, so if you have a 50/50 water/glycol mix, you raise cylinder head temps approx 50 degrees.
Now that's the kind of information we need, many thanks.
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posted July 10, 2007 07:18 AM
Thanks for the info.
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posted July 10, 2007 12:06 PM
Glad I could help for a change. Lol!
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posted July 10, 2007 03:05 PM
I too flushed , distilled watered , and used a full bottle of water wetter with great results 
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posted July 11, 2007 10:45 AM
In everything I own I put a whole bottle of Redline Water Wetter.
My snowmobiles and bikes get each a whole bottle. My S/C'd Mustang gets two bottles!
As for corrosion, it's always a good idea to flush coolant every couple year anyways. Coolant can become acidic with time.
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posted July 11, 2007 12:42 PM
That is awesome info guys! Thanks!
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posted July 11, 2007 07:07 PM
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I too flushed , distilled watered , and used a full bottle of water wetter with great results
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posted July 12, 2007 08:21 AM
live in detroit michigan if i put a bottle of water wetter and distilled water i can still add some antifreeze. i guess what im tryin to say is can i mix all three and about how much antifreeze will i need to keep it from freezing
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posted July 19, 2007 05:17 AM
You can mix all three. Hard to say how much to keep it from freezing though. It gets pretty cold up there. I would say maybe 1 qt glycol?
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posted July 19, 2007 05:20 AM
50-50 on the antifreeze and a whole bottle of Water Wetter into the cooling system first, then fill it up with 50-50.
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posted July 19, 2007 08:27 AM
50-50 is good for approx -40 degrees; and even then it won't freeze it will gel.
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posted July 22, 2007 06:13 PM
Well, I just cyphered out some of the factory coolant and poured the whole bottle in, then added a little water to top it off. It definitely made a difference.
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posted July 24, 2007 10:19 PM
Why are y'all just making this up as you go along? If you're pouring a whole bottle in, why not make it two, or three, or hell, fill the whole system up with the stuff?!?
Redline *tells* you how much to use - 1oz/quart. It's printed on the frikkin' bottle! For a 4 quart system, that means 4 oz. If you're putting in a quart, that means you're putting in TEN TIMES (because now you only have 3 quarts water, so the proper ratio would have been 3 oz) as much of the stuff as they recommend for best cooling performance!
Then you say "it works great!". Imagine how great it would work if you RTFM! Do you really think that if TEN TIMES as much WaterWetter was the right mix, that Redline wouldn't want to sell you that much?
Sheesh.
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posted July 24, 2007 11:21 PM
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posted July 25, 2007 10:16 AM
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Why are y'all just making this up as you go along? If you're pouring a whole bottle in, why not make it two, or three, or hell, fill the whole system up with the stuff?!?
Redline *tells* you how much to use - 1oz/quart. It's printed on the frikkin' bottle! For a 4 quart system, that means 4 oz. If you're putting in a quart, that means you're putting in TEN TIMES (because now you only have 3 quarts water, so the proper ratio would have been 3 oz) as much of the stuff as they recommend for best cooling performance!
Then you say "it works great!". Imagine how great it would work if you RTFM! Do you really think that if TEN TIMES as much WaterWetter was the right mix, that Redline wouldn't want to sell you that much?
Uh.............that dudes pissed!
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