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posted May 07, 2006 06:33 PM
Cycle World tells why theres no sudden pull under 5000
Cycle World " Kawasaki has tamed the 14s low-rev delivery intentionally and, in the process has completely eliminated the on-throttle abruptness that hampered the 12r. Snapping the 14s throttle open quickly at low revs actuates electronic intervention-the ECU is programmed with a rate of acceleration map that controls ignition timing and the speed at which the secondary throttle valves open.
There you have it. Would if power commander can change this? Or the ignition module.
  
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posted May 07, 2006 06:42 PM
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posted May 07, 2006 06:50 PM
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Cycle World " Kawasaki has tamed the 14s low-rev delivery intentionally and, in the process has completely eliminated the on-throttle abruptness that hampered the 12r. Snapping the 14s throttle open quickly at low revs actuates electronic intervention-the ECU is programmed with a rate of acceleration map that controls ignition timing and the speed at which the secondary throttle valves open.
There you have it. Would if power commander can change this? Or the ignition module.
No...it won't.
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posted May 07, 2006 06:55 PM
I talk to Ivan at Ivans Performance last week. he just took delivery of the 14. He said he will try to work on a fix. He is very busy so don't bug him. He needs to find it asap. He will be going threw all the mods with his TRE just as he did the 0410r and post his findings along with his maps. He said he will proalbly be using another Akrovopic pipe in his test if they can get him one...
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posted May 08, 2006 12:12 AM
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I talk to Ivan at Ivans Performance last week. he just took delivery of the 14. He said he will try to work on a fix. He is very busy so don't bug him. He needs to find it asap. He will be going threw all the mods with his TRE just as he did the 0410r and post his findings along with his maps. He said he will proalbly be using another Akrovopic pipe in his test if they can get him one...
It'll be interesting to see how Akrapovic perform. They hadn't produced a system last time I asked. Their exhausts with the removable baffle are stamped with the marks required for legal road use in the UK.
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posted May 08, 2006 07:53 AM
It'll be interesting to see if his "fix" slows down the bike in the quarter like his TRE does the Busa. Right, Brock?
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posted May 08, 2006 08:22 AM
Practicaly speaking I can see why they "smoothed " the lower hit.
Stock, In bottom 3 gears leaned over, a fistful could get you in trouble really quick.
Dragging I would imagine any advantage below 5000 rpm will be null.
I leave the line with it over 5000, and it never see' s anything below 7500 rpm after that.
Bettter roll on pulls will be the advantage with derestricting bottom power.
Shits and giggles, and torque wheelies
Still I would like to have a switchable ( on / off) choice of having full power , or full control in the bottom!
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posted May 08, 2006 08:28 AM
Indeed it would!
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posted May 08, 2006 08:30 AM
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posted May 08, 2006 08:35 AM
Switchable would be AWESOME. Lighting up the ass end for Shits & Giggles, monstrous roll ons, then turn it back on and chill when you feel like it. Best of both worlds.
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posted May 08, 2006 08:42 AM
Assuming that there is no "restriction" in 5th or 6th gears, I'd vote to remove the restriction from 3rd and 4th too.... Not sure if I'd want to have it unrestricted for every day use in 1st or 2nd though.
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fastestbusaaround
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posted May 08, 2006 08:47 AM
I believe it has the same restrictions in all gears. There is very little pull in the higher gears in the 3-4k range. Compared to the Busa' not much there at all.
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posted May 08, 2006 08:51 AM
I wonder if we are entering into the area Kawasaki feels uncomfortable about power on the street.They have already a volunteered speed limit,maybe they're worried about hp limits being imposed on bikes.I'ld like to see what hapopens when the new hayabusa comes out,whether Suzuki does the same.
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fastestbusaaround
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posted May 08, 2006 08:52 AM
I believe it has the same restrictions in all gears. There is very little pull in the higher gears in the 3-4k range. Compared to the Busa' not much there at all.
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posted May 08, 2006 12:40 PM
Yes Switchable would be the shit! Right beside the Nos switch..
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posted May 08, 2006 12:54 PM
You mean the turbo switch. Lol. :d
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posted May 08, 2006 09:35 PM
quote:
Practicaly speaking I can see why they "smoothed " the lower hit.
Stock, In bottom 3 gears leaned over, a fistful could get you in trouble really quick.
Dragging I would imagine any advantage below 5000 rpm will be null.
I leave the line with it over 5000, and it never see' s anything below 7500 rpm after that.
Bettter roll on pulls will be the advantage with derestricting bottom power.
Shits and giggles, and torque wheelies
Still I would like to have a switchable ( on / off) choice of having full power , or full control in the bottom!
I was thinking the same thing the other day..............kind of like what Chevy had for their ZR1 Corvettes. It was refered to as the ' valet key'. Am aftermarket set up like this would be perfect. Normal mode for cruising/touring and then hyper space mode............
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posted May 09, 2006 02:06 AM
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I wonder if we are entering into the area Kawasaki feels uncomfortable about power on the street.They have already a volunteered speed limit,maybe they're worried about hp limits being imposed on bikes.I'ld like to see what hapopens when the new hayabusa comes out,whether Suzuki does the same.
If it's true, I agree with Kawasaki in thier reasoning. That's too much low end power for most on the street And would get a lot of riders in trouble. I assume that any other manufacturer entering the light speed war will show the same responsibility. I'm sure that the aftermarket talent will circumvent this issue for those who want it.
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posted May 09, 2006 10:08 PM
sign me up when the fix comes in..meanwhile I'm gearing down one up front..
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posted April 14, 2010 08:49 PM
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Cycle World " Kawasaki has tamed the 14s low-rev delivery intentionally and, in the process has completely eliminated the on-throttle abruptness that hampered the 12r. Snapping the 14s throttle open quickly at low revs actuates electronic intervention-the ECU is programmed with a rate of acceleration map that controls ignition timing and the speed at which the secondary throttle valves open.
There you have it. Would if power commander can change this? Or the ignition module.
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posted April 14, 2010 08:54 PM
OK why are we diggin up this old crap from 2006 ?
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posted April 14, 2010 08:58 PM
fly thread conception? I ran out of beer, sorry bored
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posted April 14, 2010 09:03 PM
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fly thread conception? I ran out of beer, sorry bored
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