mrsantafe
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posted May 02, 2006 08:02 AM
dynocharts of exhaust??
Has anyone dynoed there bike with and aftermarket exhaust yet?? If so how much gain and which pipe. thx
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2004 zx10r (her race bike)
2002 ZX12 (still kicking a--)
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Lilrock04blue12
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posted May 02, 2006 10:15 AM
Hell with aftermarket exhaust, has anyone done a baseline stock on a trusted dyno that they know what a bus or zx12 stock pulled for a good comparison.
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tslewisz
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posted May 02, 2006 11:40 AM
Look at Brock's website.
http://www.brockracing.com/dyno_charts/default.htm
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zxbob
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posted May 02, 2006 02:02 PM
Im trying to get mine set up for a pull this week.
I want to know the HP ....... but more important is the AF
That will answer alot of ? out there.
Bob
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zermatt
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posted May 02, 2006 03:35 PM
bob - you didn't pull a baseline run before installing the pipes?
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zxbob
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posted May 02, 2006 04:01 PM
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bob - you didn't pull a baseline run before installing the pipes?
Unfortunatly No ........ but the big question out here is the performance without
the PC.
I only had my bike for 2 days before I ripped into it, hopefully someone will do
a stock pull. I know there will be many variables, but just for a general consenses
on what happens to the 14 without re-mapping.
Most place with a dyno will do a pull (with no adjustments) for about $40.00 so if
anyone can do their stock bike we should get some good numbers.
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mrsantafe
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posted May 02, 2006 05:57 PM
It will be good to see what your bike makes with the pipe. Even though you don't have a baseline stock at least we will have some data to look at!
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9.78@155.13 mph 1.71 60 ft @ a near mile high dragstrip
2006 ZX14 gone
2006 ZX10r (Wifes street bike)
2004 zx10r (her race bike)
2002 ZX12 (still kicking a--)
2007 gsxr 1k (race bike)
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havabusa12r
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posted May 02, 2006 06:03 PM
Bob,
Any K&N, or BMC on the horizon?
Has dynojet asked for a 14 from a customer, yet?
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swiftkart
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posted May 04, 2006 06:36 AM
Has dynojet asked for a 14 from a customer, yet?
Yes, they have one, they posted a gain of 6hp (161hp to 167hp) on a all stock zx14 after re-mapping on the other site, it also said they were trying to get a test pipe from Muzzy, but it fell through or something.
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MrHi
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posted May 04, 2006 02:10 PM
About to go test out the Power Commander and ignition modul. Both units were placed on the side of the ram air duct for ease of installation.
Almost forgot the chart.
Was hoping for better hp  I guess pipes are next 
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fastestbusaaround
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posted May 04, 2006 02:37 PM
Fuck man...my Busa had more at the wheel with basic mods...seems little low considering that the they claim 113.5 crank TQ and the Busa claims103...I made 103 RWTQ with only pipes, PC3R and an airbox mod...I'm surprised, because this bike pulls harder and is faster than my Busa was...
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fastestbusaaround
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posted May 04, 2006 02:38 PM
I thought there was no Power Commander or ignition module yet for the 14?
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MrHi
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posted May 04, 2006 03:19 PM
I live in Vegas were Dynojet is at. I let them use my bike for a few days so they would have the info to build units for more 14's.
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fastestbusaaround
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posted May 04, 2006 04:13 PM
If I look at the chart, I see a rather large torque dip starting at 2700 and it doesn't come back till 4500...coincides with A/F mixture at the same RPM's...or is this normal? It seems like that's where the powerband is lost when you actually ride the bike....I don't think the PC can change the factory map issue we are experiencing either...
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Vegasdude
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posted May 04, 2006 04:45 PM
quote:
About to go test out the Power Commander and ignition modul. Both units were placed on the side of the ram air duct for ease of installation.
Almost forgot the chart.
Was hoping for better hp I guess pipes are next
That's not bad for stock pipes after mapping. Afterall we are only talking about 52 more cc's.............
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smokinZX14
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posted May 04, 2006 05:40 PM
Everbodys dyno will read a little different ... I want to see the same bike with stock and then the pipe... I really don't care what the dyno says about max hp ..I want to see what the gain was stock Vs mods same bike same day....My zx10 147 on one dyno and 153 on another and that was with no changes..lol...Remember it's just tool, don't get hung up on the numbers...
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havabusa12r
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posted May 04, 2006 05:50 PM
quote:
If I look at the chart, I see a rather large torque dip starting at 2700 and it doesn't come back till 4500...coincides with A/F mixture at the same RPM's...or is this normal? It seems like that's where the powerband is lost when you actually ride the bike....I don't think the PC can change the factory map issue we are experiencing either...
Maybe KAWK will let the dealers reflash the ECU, if possible?
1. To lower the operating temperature.
2. To remove the SRM*, if applicible.
*- Squid Reduction Mode
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(99 Copper Busa) (99 Duc 900 SS full fairing) (00 MV Agusta F4S) (02 Aprilia RSV Mille) (02 ZX 12r CTB) (03 KTM 950 Adv)
(04 Yam R1) (05 LE Busa) (07 ZX 14)
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fastestbusaaround
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posted May 04, 2006 05:53 PM
LOL
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MrHi
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posted May 04, 2006 06:06 PM
comparison chart same day. one with power commander and ignition module one without.
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havabusa12r
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posted May 04, 2006 06:30 PM
Is the ignition module really needed on a bike with bolt ons only?
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(04 Yam R1) (05 LE Busa) (07 ZX 14)
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fastestbusaaround
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posted May 04, 2006 06:34 PM
Thats a mighty big diff for only a Power Commander and Ignition module....I need one of these too! Add some pipes...'nuther 15 ponies...182...ya baby! Now we be talkin!
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smokinZX14
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posted May 04, 2006 07:04 PM
Maybe KAWK will let the dealers reflash the ECU, if possible?
1. To lower the operating temperature.
2. To remove the SRM*, if applicible.
*- Squid Reduction Mode
lol that is funny SRM lol i have to remember that one ..
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mrsantafe
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posted May 04, 2006 07:11 PM
How much hp gain is there bolting on the muzzy full exhaust to the zx14 MR. MUZZY if you please?
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9.78@155.13 mph 1.71 60 ft @ a near mile high dragstrip
2006 ZX14 gone
2006 ZX10r (Wifes street bike)
2004 zx10r (her race bike)
2002 ZX12 (still kicking a--)
2007 gsxr 1k (race bike)
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posted May 04, 2006 07:27 PM
quote:
If I look at the chart, I see a rather large torque dip starting at 2700 and it doesn't come back till 4500...coincides with A/F mixture at the same RPM's...or is this normal? It seems like that's where the powerband is lost when you actually ride the bike....I don't think the PC can change the factory map issue we are experiencing either...
Muzzy's was saying that the 14 makes an awesome 8% more power at the rear wheel with just a pipe!! 
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