Outsiderzx12r
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posted September 16, 2005 04:14 AM
I don't like the hydraulic clutch.
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osti33
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posted September 16, 2005 04:19 AM
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Ugh.
That pretty much sums it up...
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ozzy
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posted September 16, 2005 04:21 AM
It looks to me like Kaw took a design they allready had, updated the lighting and tossed in a few other cosmetics. Then they added a 'busa killing engine.
If you old timers here remember, Kawi said that when they were first developing the 12R in the windtunnel they came upon a design that was very aero, but that it was so unconventional (ugly) , and that the design was very similiar to the 'busa.
They dropped it because marketing said it won't sell.
Well here it is, imho.
As for the handling concerns: the 'busa handles as well as the 12R in almost everyway. Kawis aim was not track time, they have the 10R for that along with the 6R/RR.
They built a bike to beat a busa in its own world, the street. The busa out sells the 12R significantly, and without big discounts and rebates to do it. Kawi has entered the market 'target area' of the busa.
The styling is definately different in some aspects, but so is the 'busa and it sells.
For me, it isn't my favorite, but it isnt as ugly as a busa either. Just different than I am used to I guess.
Put a pair of hard bags on it, (not those dam ugly corbins, some nice bags would be nice) and I would be a happy camper. ( literally, hit the road and do some sport touring)
I hope the ergos are similiar to the c model ZX11, as that was one of the most comfortable bikes for the long haul that I have owned.
Now I just hope that when Kawi says it comes in ebony, that means black, NOT glitter black, pearl black, dusty black or any other form of color that is not just plain old 1993 ZX11 ebony black!
Now where is the ZG1400 replacement for the Connie?
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MadMike
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posted September 16, 2005 04:58 AM
 Edited By: MadMike on 16 Sep 2005 05:59
Exactly Looks like a sport tourer!  I was ready for the next Kawi super bike to come out, oh man the raw feel of pure power, the mean looks! I remember the first time I saw the 12 Oh man it was Awsome!!!! I was expecting the same feeling and actually trying to figure out how to tell the wife I had to get a new bike this year...... Well Kawi you helped me out!! I hate to say this but the Busa guys are now going to tease us about How Ugly the new Kawi is..... I am totally dissapointed that this is actually the bike.... I would like to make a pass on her but I seriously do not see one in my future..... 
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Nukedog
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posted September 16, 2005 05:01 AM
ZX12R HP and Busa TQ. RF/Honda looks...
Not what they were hoping for and certainly will not be a big seller based on the looks. I guess the ZX12R will be a dead program after all....
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matt sterbator
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posted September 16, 2005 05:20 AM
All the more reason to keep my A1 
I'd like to see pics of an actual new Busa.
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gunner
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posted September 16, 2005 05:48 AM
It's HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's a God Damn Busa with Kawasaki Badging 
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matt sterbator
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posted September 16, 2005 05:51 AM
Ya know, if they just made all those headlights as two single lenses... made the front fairing smaller...
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matt sterbator
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posted September 16, 2005 05:51 AM
Actually... if they just made that bike look different, it would be sweet 
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gunner
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posted September 16, 2005 06:05 AM
All that thing needs is the undertail pipes off the 06 10R to complete the whole GAY package! Damn sure makes me glad I have an A1 and A2 12R in my shop. It sure looks like that relationship between Suzuki and Kawasaki is alive and well. As it seems the Suzuki boys got to pencil this one out for the team. Did I mention it was GAY!!!!!!!!!!
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matt sterbator
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posted September 16, 2005 06:07 AM
This is some cruel trick played by Suzuki. They figured that since they got an ugly ass bike in the Busa for the past 6 years, bought time Kawasaki had one just like it
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gunner
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posted September 16, 2005 06:12 AM
I'm sure for two up riding and mines bigger than your's bragging rights it will be perfect! Seeing how I have no rear pegs on my 12R and NEVER double up, and that type of bragging shit is best left to the Busa boys and poser boys. This thing is of no use to me. Looks like it would make a great launching platfrom for up at the GAP. Laughable at best I can't wait to hand one of those thing it's AZZZ up there. Yea I'm sure if it can get me down by the lake it'll be sad, but by the time it makes it to the lake I'll be over in Townsend having lunch!!!!!!
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gunner
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posted September 16, 2005 06:15 AM
Did I mention that the new Kawasaki ZX14 is a BIG FAT AZZ PIG!!!!!!!!!!!!! and IT's FookinGAY!
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Just Joy
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posted September 16, 2005 06:17 AM
looks long......like one would need to do the "Austin Powers turn around" in a tight corner......
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matt sterbator
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posted September 16, 2005 06:24 AM
Damn the 10R is lookin sweet now
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CrotchRocket
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posted September 16, 2005 06:29 AM
Heres my take on this new ZX14...
Motor Forward in the Frame...
Almost same width as the 12...
Bars positioned so rider does'nt have to reach...
Narrow engine, Frame, Gas tank, Narrow seat & seat height with foot pegs set low...
Seamless Torque, making starts from stops possible in almost any gear...
Shift Light & Gear Indicator...
Hydraulic clutch with Radial master cyclinder for silky smooth clutch operation...
Supersized Radiator for efficient cooling...
These changes tell me that Kawasaki has DragRacing in mind which sounds promising!!!
It is set up alot like a Busa...I bet launching this bike at the 1/4 mile will be just like launching a Busa in low RPM due to the Torque...
I cant wait to see this new ZX14 in person and its performance at the DragStrip...
Rick Mazzola
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Ninjaman12R
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posted September 16, 2005 07:08 AM
Two-wheeled turd..........
Really not diggin' this bike, to me the '06 'busa looks WAY better.
That says a lot doesn't it.
I may eventually add another 12R to the stable...................................
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Otis
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posted September 16, 2005 07:12 AM
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Really not diggin' this bike, to me the '06 'busa looks WAY better.
That says a lot doesn't it.
I may eventually add another 12R to the stable...................................
I agree Rick and I may also add another 12 to mine. Prolly this 05' right here. She's a beauty eh?
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matt sterbator
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posted September 16, 2005 07:17 AM
That black looks better in pics than in person. I'm not too fond of the bass boat black they painted it.
...but it does look killer in pics, and a TON better than that hideous 14.
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vozizm
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posted September 16, 2005 07:19 AM
"bass boat black "
Thats Funny!! 
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crashtech
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posted September 16, 2005 07:28 AM
I hate to say it but with "the masses" and "the jonses" flocking to get the "biggest" . I bet they will be damn near giving the left over 12's away. If thats the case then I will "strip the "goodies" off my "A" model and get a "B" model to put them on. I sure do like the looks of the "A" though. The "B" handles a bit better, and radial brakes.
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TedG
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posted September 16, 2005 07:36 AM
It looks like the they took away the blurred line between the 10 and the 12 and defined its purpose better. Definitely not as sporty as the 12(at least in looks) and most assuredly built to stomp on the Busa and take over its territory.
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blueford
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posted September 16, 2005 07:39 AM
It's all about those horsepower numbers, if they are high enough, it's a winner!
How about this for the "marketing folks" ?
"The fastest most powerful motorcycle ever built" are you man enough to ride it???
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gunner
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posted September 16, 2005 07:47 AM
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Really not diggin' this bike, to me the '06 'busa looks WAY better.
That says a lot doesn't it.
I may eventually add another 12R to the stable...................................
I agree Rick and I may also add another 12 to mine. Prolly this 05' right here. She's a beauty eh?
Well, At least Kawasaki provided a nice base coat for a real Black paint job 
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DB
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posted September 16, 2005 08:43 AM
It's sad Kawasaki is going in this direction. Looks as if the 10r is their largest sportbike available now.
Hey, where's the hard luggage for this ZX14/ZZR14? I wonder why we just have both - A ZX and a ZZR.
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