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posted January 08, 2007 09:08 AM
Fast Ride - Bimota vs Ducati
A little long. But worth watching. At that pace, the ending is kinda expected.... Could have been much worse.
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posted January 08, 2007 11:50 AM
...at the end he said, "I don't fuckin' believe it..."
...believe it...
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posted January 08, 2007 08:49 PM
Man, those dudes are crazy riding like that on a public road, and just when I was thinking that the guy on the Bimota was riding his ass off.....bang. He was lucky he didn't slide off the edge of the cliff.
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posted January 09, 2007 02:52 AM
WOW! Those guys are crazy riding like that on public roads - in the mountains no less. Take it to the track morons. SHEESH.
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posted January 10, 2007 08:50 AM
What's wrong with riding fast on the street? It's not like one can get to the track every weekend. Here in SoCal with stellar roads a few miles away it just makes sense. Unless you suck butt and target fixate on a bridge abutments or soft shoulders like the fuckwit in the video. (Personally, I think if you've ever owned an Italian bike you are better off at home playing Nofriendo, but that's another rant.) I get a hoot out of the slow guys preaching restraint and claiming they go like Rossi when they get to the track. Slow is slow. I've never seen a whiney bitch tranform into a fast guy just because he's at the track. Maybe if they got a little more practice in on the street they'd have some game? Besides, if you want to live forever why in the fuck did you buy a 10R?
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posted January 10, 2007 03:23 PM
Bovine, I'm sure you are the greatest rider ever, but if you think using public roads, for an extended period, like a race track (as in the video) your crazy. The riders in the video are clearly good riders, but things happen, you have to pick your spots. The guys in the video were all out for a good while on a two lane road with traffic coming in the other direction. I guess you believe that everyone with a sportbike has a death wish.
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posted January 10, 2007 09:01 PM
I've been using public roads for a racetrack for 25 years. What of it? It's great fun and it really pisses off the slow guys. Good riders in the video? They guy in front made a classic twat mistake: He failed to finish the corner. I did that. Once. You learn or you die. I've paid a LOT of tuition.
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posted January 10, 2007 10:27 PM
can I have their bikes?
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posted January 11, 2007 12:56 PM
"I've been using public roads for a racetrack for 25 years. What of it?"
Can cause the death of another driver.. messing like these guys are doing is a danger to the public. if they would have wiped out and caused another driver or innocent family to go off the cliff in the mix they would get charged with murder .
Riding with little or no restraints is not a good thing... having fun and constantly endangering others is not the same thing...I take chances but do not habitually risk those around me...it matters to be somewhat considerate..no?
If the road is guaranteed empty is one thing.. see how many folks quickly stopped to help? they could have also been a causualty of the crash fairly easily.. you think they deserve something like that?
something to think about ...
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posted January 11, 2007 09:39 PM
Turnabout is fair play. All the way to the twisties I have to dodge phone chatting bimbos in SUVs. Then it's my turn to be the menace. I don't know how many bikes have hurt car passengers, I only know of one instance. I've personally been hit by another bike 5 times so I know that is a real risk. Bikes that go where I ride should know there are unskilled maniacs there. They'll know it inside of 5 minutes if they don't. You pay your money and you take your chances. I've seen a lot more carnage/mile at the track though. Ride your ride, I'll ride mine.
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posted January 11, 2007 10:41 PM
Hey Mad cow.. Its given most of us ride faster than we should. There are plenty of idiots driving with no skill to speak of other than talking on a cell phone and attempting to drive at the same time. Time to knock that chip off your shoulder and grow up a little. Riding fast is too much fun to ruin it by dieing. 
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posted January 12, 2007 08:27 AM
You want to nance around the back country on your race spec motorcycle, that's fine. I know image is critical to a lot of folks, and I understand the 10R makes a nice statement. I like to use mine for what it was built to do. Sorry you have a problem with that. Wanna get into a fight about wheelies? Let's face it, there is no meeting of the minds here. We just have to agree to disagree.
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posted January 12, 2007 08:42 AM
 Edited By: salsa1 on 12 Jan 2007 08:44
Bottom line we each will live with any problems we create...I will try to be somewhat carefull and be considerate to others..I still get it on in the backroads when I feel it does not cost others their rights...
hey if ya kill yourself or someone else your problem really.. if ya want to ride with revenge because of others stupidity.. have at it..good luck..hope it works out for ya..ZX-10R was not built to crash.. too many lightweight parts can ruin it with not much of a spill..whatever..
Common sense says the guys in the video pushed too hard and were way too reckless...could have been worse .. several of the cyclists on the road may have been wiped out with them .. lots of cliffs as well...they abused their rights beyond what should be..and beyond their ability..anyone with common sense can see that..
They got carried away and in the wrong place to do it..simple..
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posted January 12, 2007 10:34 AM
No, the lead guy in the video was riding over his head. How do we know? He fixated on the side of the road and failed to make the turn. That only happens to experienced riders when they are uncomfortable at the pace they are going. He was likely seeing the other bike in his mirrors, knew it was on camera ("on camera" has the stink of death all fucking over it), and between them it was enough to make him lose focus. When someone is that close to your ass it means you are holding them up. They guy in front had the saddle time to know this. Rather than let the guy go through and risk getting dropped, he pushed past his personal speed limit. It's hard to fault the guy following, it would have been quite the trick to avoid the carnage. Like I said, in 25 years I've seen a lot of this and paid a lot of tuition for my own ignorance and stupidity. I still make mistakes, just not the same ones. If you survive you can learn, if you learn you can survive. The point is simple. It's not how fast you ride. That just isn't relevant. What's relevant is the skillset and experience of the guy at the controls. No matter how much you want to establish your own personal, arbitrary standards for the rest of us, your opinion doesn't mean shit. Where ever you set the bar it will be way too fast for one guy and just fucking stupid boring for another. Ride your ride. Enjoy whatever pace makes you smile. I know I will.
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posted January 12, 2007 01:25 PM
Edited By: salsa1 on 12 Jan 2007 13:45
Not trying to establish my own arbitrary standards..you asked an open ended question and I answered for the benefit of anyone who wants to listen...
you asked..:
"What's wrong with riding fast on the street?"
So I answered; I will add it won't hurt me any how you drive.. ya might as well have fun with it...
You conclude:
"if you want to live forever why in the fuck did you buy a 10R?"
That sums up what you believe..correct? so my expectations are irrelevant ; we agree on that....
Go for it...
I still believe these guy in the video and anyone who rides like that will hurt something valuable and regret it sooner or later...Human imperfection will take care of that..
regardless of my personal standards...I hope I am wrong...life goes on...no one is being forced to believe anything here...
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posted January 12, 2007 04:07 PM
''Madcow'', I just don't believe you ride like that all the time, if you did we never would have known ya. I'm sure there's something in you that governs how you ride in a given situation. We all have had our moments when we push our bikes to the limit of our own personal skills and have got that rush that only a sportsbike can provide, Its addictive. But a street bike is used for more than just ripping the country side. I love just riding, witnessing gods earth the way it's supposed to be.
And if you have survived 25 years of riding all out, all the time, you truly are a bad man.
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posted January 12, 2007 06:37 PM
Believe it. Anything less is just not worth suiting up for. I love trackdays, but there are weekends I gotta scratch that itch and the only option is a road that would make any racetrack green with envy. Do the math.
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posted January 17, 2007 08:22 PM
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I gotta scratch that itch
Do you need some kinda medicine for that???...sounds kinda painful !!!
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posted January 17, 2007 09:10 PM
Odds are it will be
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posted January 18, 2007 09:10 AM
Why do you guys so disdain riding these bikes as designed? 99% of owners use them as ego props, covering them with bling this and Pazzo that. Then they take them to the twisties and ride like a grandma. Actually, having seen XL ride, angry posts from grandmas will not be a total surprise.
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posted January 18, 2007 10:16 AM
XL is truly slow. He also likes riding tiddlers since he can't handle a real liter bike.... 
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posted January 18, 2007 06:47 PM
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XL is truly slow. He also likes riding tiddlers since he can't handle a real liter bike....
Sounds like you have met, I thought the same when I met him :d
Mini bike riders :d
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posted January 18, 2007 06:54 PM
You're killin me Larry!!!!
Why is everybody always pickin on me???
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posted January 19, 2007 04:22 PM
Well, we can rule out penis envy.
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posted February 04, 2007 03:06 PM
In late 03 I spent 2 weeks in the south of France on those exact roads, for the first few days trying to get used to riding on the wrong side of the road and drop offs into oblivion with just a small rock or concrete wall as per the video. By the end of the first week I was no better than the maniac running the whole setup, three of us got sick of waiting for the remainder of the group to catch up so we split for the second week and went our own way.
I can honestly say it was the best riding of my life to date, having an expert rider give one on one advise with runs lasting a full tank of fuel then a de brief I learnt more about riding skill in those two weeks than in the past 43 years.
I would not ride like that back home for the following reasons, in France their was NO traffic to contend with paritcularly in the mountains, the people have a bike mentality and just moved out of our way unlike here. The roads were like Philip Island race track we were changing tyres at the end of everyday on the bikes, I did have two very close incidents that would have seen me shipped home in a body bag had they not gone my way and I actually managed to keep the bike right side up both times.
While I don't ride on the speed limit on the open road ( and who does ) I have a healthy respect for the conditions that dictate my attitude at the time and to date have only ever been down on the track once thanks to some moron who couldn't control himself.
While the video shows what appears reckless riding it was probably the fact they were filming the ride that the incident occurred in the first place fixation is a bitch and clearly what happed to the first rider in this instance. Got off lucky by the looks of it ,at least he stayed on the right side of the barrier.
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