rawdawg1
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posted February 01, 2007 06:34 PM
 Edited By: rawdawg1 on 1 Feb 2007 18:50
rear tires
who is running what tires on the street (06 10) and why? thanks peeps!
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TedG
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posted February 01, 2007 08:35 PM
Go check out the Michelin Pilot 2CT. It is a new two compound tire that is just fantastic. Soft edges and a harder center.
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squicker
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posted February 02, 2007 02:03 PM
I was going to try a set of the new Dunlop GP racer tyres, same dual compound type tyre as the 2ct Michelins. Will post comments when tried!
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rawdawg1
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posted February 03, 2007 07:15 AM
Edited By: rawdawg1 on 3 Feb 2007 07:22
Im not finding the same demensions 190-55-17 (stock) you see 190-50-17 can someone explain the difference. Id really appreciate it! Thanks. And I was thinking mich anyway
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psycho1122
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posted February 03, 2007 08:54 AM
Running the Michelin PP front and rear makes a more stable AND quicker steering platform.
The front tire is "Taller" by 2.2 mm and the rear is 8mm "shorter" from axle to ground than the Done Laps. Of course you will want to have your fork tubes flush with the triples on this set up.
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rawdawg1
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posted February 03, 2007 03:52 PM
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Running the Michelin PP front and rear makes a more stable AND quicker steering platform.
The front tire is "Taller" by 2.2 mm and the rear is 8mm "shorter" from axle to ground than the Done Laps. Of course you will want to have your fork tubes flush with the triples on this set up.
can you elaborate on the part with the fork tubes. Thanks Bro
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Grease
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posted February 04, 2007 01:24 PM
Edited By: Grease on 4 Feb 2007 13:25
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Im not finding the same demensions 190-55-17 (stock) you see 190-50-17 can someone explain the difference. Id really appreciate it! Thanks. And I was thinking mich anyway
I don't know what you know about tires, so I will start at the beginning. The numbers on a tire are defined as follows: 190/55-17
190 = width of tire in millimeters
55 = height of tire in percentage, in this case 55% of the 190
17 = rim diameter
With that, it is my understanding that the taller sidewall, the 55 instead of the former 50, provides a wider contact patch, especially on turns. Since the sidewall is taller, the arc of the tread is not as steep, providing a more "flat" thus bigger contact patch. With a bigger contact patch, more control of power to road and more predictability.
I could be wrong, so please, someone correct me.
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psycho1122
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posted February 05, 2007 08:33 AM
Sure, When I installed the PP's...I compensated for the 2.2 mm taller front tire by raising the forks in the triple clamps by 2 mm to maintain as much of the stock geometry as possible. I performed the same with the rear, which needed to be raised 8 mm.
I encountered an issue with this set up at the next trackday. The bike was very un-stable over 100 mph and wanted to tuck the front. The stock stabilizer had to be full on to minimize (not eliminate) head shake. I immediately returned the forks back to "flush" by dropping them in the tripples (rising ride height /added trail). This settled the bike right down and I was able to take 3 clicks out of the stabilizer.
I will also be pulling the ride height shim out of the shock and drop the rear 8mm. This will add rock solid stability back to the chassis and with the tire profiles on the PP's, maintain quicker steering than the OE Done Laps.
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rawdawg1
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posted February 05, 2007 06:29 PM
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Sure, When I installed the PP's...I compensated for the 2.2 mm taller front tire by raising the forks in the triple clamps by 2 mm to maintain as much of the stock geometry as possible. I performed the same with the rear, which needed to be raised 8 mm.
I encountered an issue with this set up at the next trackday. The bike was very un-stable over 100 mph and wanted to tuck the front. The stock stabilizer had to be full on to minimize (not eliminate) head shake. I immediately returned the forks back to "flush" by dropping them in the tripples (rising ride height /added trail). This settled the bike right down and I was able to take 3 clicks out of the stabilizer.
I will also be pulling the ride height shim out of the shock and drop the rear 8mm. This will add rock solid stability back to the chassis and with the tire profiles on the PP's, maintain quicker steering than the OE Done Laps.
Let me know how this works and what is your size( hight and weight) Im 6' 205 lbs
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psycho1122
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posted February 05, 2007 07:34 PM
We are very close here...I'm 6' and 210.
This bike is track only, so I will let you know in a couple weeks.
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rawdawg1
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posted February 06, 2007 04:42 PM
Cool. let me see some pics of the psycho 10
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psycho1122
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posted February 06, 2007 08:00 PM
Edited By: psycho1122 on 6 Feb 2007 20:07
Sure! here's a few...
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rawdawg1
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posted February 07, 2007 06:20 PM
Sweet!! How do you like the exhaust? Im torn between devil and yours
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psycho1122
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posted February 08, 2007 07:59 AM
Well.......
If you look at it on paper, it's "under whelming". I had it tuned and Mapped on the dyno and it picked up 2.2 peak h.p. However, it smooths out the h.p. and torque from 2-7,500 rpm.
H.P. and TQ are stronger by up to 4.5 and 5.5 respectively from 3,500-5,250 rpm. with the stock pipe. Almost the opposite occurs from 5,250- 7,500 rpm. with the Akra. Thus producing a SMOOTHER powerband.
From 7,500-11,000 both pipes produce the same power. Akra finally picks up 4 h.p at redline.
On the track, with Ram Air it runs very strong! I get comments on how hard I pull away from guys I run with on corner exits and on down the straits.
I am running the stock filter also for now.
The other thing I have not been able to determine is how much weight was saved with the Akra.
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guamaniac
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posted February 14, 2007 10:09 PM
Damn that's a nice bike!  So what does it say on the upper by the windscreen now? Have you decided what you are going to do about the rear break reservoir?
BTW...I might be at the races this weekend...did you want me to bring the PCIII stuff? I had it ready for you to pickup but you never called.
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psycho1122
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posted February 15, 2007 07:18 AM
Sure!
I will be doing the RRSW Sat. a.m. trackday at west.
Also, I will be pitting for my friend on Sunday for the races. Should be there from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m. Do you still have my cell #?
On your other ?'s...come on out and see what's on it! 
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stevewfl
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posted February 16, 2007 10:09 PM
Is there any other tire for the street and racetrack? PP's for the street (who cares what flavor, its the street!), and Pilot Power Race medium compound and chicken-hawk tire warmers for the track!
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