Rspec99
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posted June 21, 2006 11:01 AM
I have heard mixed reviews about this modification. Supposedly the bike loses a bit of power in the 4,000 to 6,000 rpm range without any documented proof of gains on the top end. Any thoughts?
I'd like to try it but I'd like to see what the map revisions look like...
  
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zx1kr
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posted June 22, 2006 12:05 PM
The map will be finished for the 10 & 636 as soon as i get some time to play.
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kz2zx
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posted June 22, 2006 05:59 PM
I'd love to see a dyno before/after, Fish.
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zx1kr
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posted June 22, 2006 07:49 PM
I plan on doing exactly that. I just did that very thing on the 14 board. I might be doing it tommorrow weather permitting
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cptcrunch
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posted June 23, 2006 11:04 AM
 Edited By: cptcrunch on 23 Jun 2006 12:26
hey fish_antlers I took them out of my 06zx10 today. I have a power comander and a twobrothers yale and a BMC race filter could you recomend a good map for mine or do you have one for this mod
 
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crazygerry
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posted June 24, 2006 07:22 PM
took out the secondaries, throttle response is immediate, and more intake growl! definately worth the effort. I would guess that the lean spot is right around 6000 there is a bit of a flat spot there now.
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Rspec99
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posted June 26, 2006 09:34 AM
Any updates on the progress of the testing and mapping?
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fish_antlers
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posted June 26, 2006 11:28 AM
as I mentioned, no I do not have a map for this mod... I am hoping that KBryant will come up with something for everyone..
really wakes the bike up though 
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fastestbusaaround
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posted June 26, 2006 11:32 AM
I ran my bike now for about 1K km's with them removed and the bottom richened up by 4%...I know she has to go back to the Dyno...but she pulls harder now at RPMS up over 4500 till redline.
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thundermonkey
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posted June 26, 2006 06:26 PM
Why the hell does my bike have components that hold it back ,why didn't kmc spend a little more time on fuel maps and ignition curves and just leave off what must have been a couple hundred dollars of useless crap?
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swft
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posted June 27, 2006 05:03 AM
Because they know you are an idiot...
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fastestbusaaround
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posted June 27, 2006 05:07 AM
:d. Now that's funny...but true. What a dork.
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GuNNer
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posted June 27, 2006 05:26 AM
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Because they know you are an idiot...
Nothing personal twards anyone but that's exactly why they do it. Probably 6 out of 10 of these bikes fall into the hands of less than capable riders so they do their best to make them idiot proof.
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cptcrunch
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posted June 27, 2006 05:37 AM
well i have to say it made my bike more fun to ride a few times but I am having a hard time
keeping the front tire on the road in the corrners. may need to tame it a little. I do think it has a little dip around 6k but when it picks up ya better be hanging on.
maybe I should go back to oem factory sprockerts that may help with the lightness in the front end. but I do like the responce of it this way. any input ?
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thundermonkey
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posted June 27, 2006 06:36 AM
Being called an idiot is nothing new to me,but the one place I'm not an idiot is on my
bike....ah scratch that I am an idiot
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Rspec99
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posted June 27, 2006 09:05 AM
I heard that the folks with the ZX-14's are experiencing some low rpm drivability issues as a result of this. Is this going to be the same case with the 10's?
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cptcrunch
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posted June 27, 2006 10:04 AM
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I heard that the folks with the ZX-14's are experiencing some low rpm drivability issues as a result of this. Is this going to be the same case with the 10's?
I hav'nt had any at all with my 10 but I do have a little bit of a dip around 6k but i am sure I can map that out
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salsa1
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posted June 27, 2006 10:42 AM
Edited By: salsa1 on 27 Jun 2006 14:14
maybe I should go back to oem factory sprockerts that may help with the lightness in the front end. but I do like the responce of it this way. any input ?
lower gearing is bound to produce faster engine response down low... question would be did you experience problems on corners with lower gearing and secondaries in? if not then gearing is not the problem...mapping the fuel injection to produce a tractable power band with secondaries removed would be ideal if attainable... no one has reported anything yet...need dyno results to tell...I am waiting to see if worth it or not... need to see significant gain to justify a remap...
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Rspec99
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posted June 27, 2006 11:30 AM
I think you hit the nail on the head salsa1. I have yet to do this modification yet as I am afraid of driveability issues associated with this. I am certainly watching this thread with some interest thoug but I think I'll sit on the sidelines until I see some dyno and a/f plots before committing, I just have visions of me stripping one of those philips screws on the butterflies. Damn I hate that....
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fish_antlers
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posted June 27, 2006 12:28 PM
Sure revs up fast now, eh?
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zx1kr
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posted June 27, 2006 09:16 PM
Dropped the 10 at the shop today(rained out big time at Poconos). Got the 14 mapped w/o the flies today. The 10 is next.
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fish_antlers
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posted June 27, 2006 09:39 PM
nice!
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cptcrunch
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posted June 27, 2006 09:51 PM
I got my first real good taste of how my 10 will run without the secondarys, all I can say is damn!!!!! who need first gear anyway. I am getting a little worried about the map the damn thing back fires alot now. I think I better get somthing done with the a/f before I run it like that again, or I may end up having trouble
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fish_antlers
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posted June 28, 2006 06:37 AM
prolly a good chance you will... engine will most likely be really really lean... pretty cool trick, huh?
has this thread made its way to 10R.net yet? Those boys mught wanna know!
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GUNNER
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posted June 28, 2006 06:43 AM
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prolly a good chance you will... engine will most likely be really really lean... pretty cool trick, huh?
has this thread made its way to 10R.net yet? Those boys mught wanna know!
Yea it has and it's kinda funny to watch.
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