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posted January 20, 2006 10:40 AM
HEadlight Solution?
Banner day on E-bay I guess.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ZX10R-ZX-10R-ZX-10-HEADLIGHT-DUAL-BEAM-CONVERSION-NR_W0QQitemZ4605208893QQcategoryZ35598QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Figured this might interest some, dunno if the $ are worth it though.
  
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posted January 20, 2006 02:02 PM
Cool that someone has done it.. price is a bit steep but improvement looks good!!
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posted January 20, 2006 02:29 PM
I would like to know what bulbs he used. Are they an H4 style with highs and lows? The relay and wiring thing is a cake walk.
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posted January 20, 2006 03:14 PM
I was wondering that too, would almost have to be H4's.
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posted January 20, 2006 04:27 PM
Guys he sells this as a kit for 75 bucks. Or you can send him your headlight and he'll install it for 150 bucks The guy is on Kawiforums.com I talked with him yesterday. His name is Speedracer138.
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posted January 21, 2006 09:06 AM
 Edited By: worm~hole on 21 Jan 2006 09:12
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Cool that someone has done it.. price is a bit steep but improvement looks good!!
FAAAAACKIN' KAWASAKI should've done this in the first place....conspicuity with headlights for most of the 'wiser' street rider....benefits in the day (better high-beam output)...benefits at night (lees extreme light-pattern cut-off....especailly when banking in a turn up a mountain with low-beam on approaching on-coming traffic)...and it does look 1000% better in my humble oipinion.....the guys at the motorcycle manufacturers should ride in the real world more and talk to the experienced street riders to appreciate what some of us are talking about instead of guessing what we'd like...it is a street bike, is it not?
...you wanna dedicated race bike?...do what Harley Davidson did with their purpose-built V-Rod VRXSE DESTROYER racebike and charge accordingly!...and let the guys who want a race bike for the street street-mod them to their liking, not the opposite....
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posted January 21, 2006 07:48 PM
I found that if you adjust the beams up higher than what they come from factory that it makes a world of diference. I adjusted mine up quite a bit higher than stock.
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posted January 22, 2006 04:34 PM
I can't get mine to adjust my low beams up and have had no luck. Mine is way too low but I have been looking for a way to get H4 bulbs into the H9 flanges. Or find someone who makes something like that. That is one of this winters projects. Again the wiring and relays are a cake walk, but the bulbs are not.
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posted January 22, 2006 10:10 PM
looks liek a nice solution, but like has been stated before, its pricey
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posted January 23, 2006 06:07 AM
Edited By: salsa1 on 23 Jan 2006 06:19
Good info Gunner ....75 dollars is a gift price to me anyways ; I don't care for factory cyclops job very much...be nice if the guy would chime in here for but the same really ..I will be contacting him to work out a purchase...
Thanks for the lead!!
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posted January 29, 2006 07:45 AM
The lenses were design to throw a specific beam. I just wonder if you put a dual filament bulb in if the beam would be the correct pattern. It seems like the high beam lense would still be a high beam even when the low filament is glowing.
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posted January 29, 2006 05:13 PM
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The lenses were design to throw a specific beam. I just wonder if you put a dual filament bulb in if the beam would be the correct pattern. It seems like the high beam lense would still be a high beam even when the low filament is glowing.
I don't think it be a problem at all. The H4 has a small cover to reflect the beam up that effectively cuts off the top of the beam at the bulb. You would be able to adjust the beam up and really get some good highs.
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posted January 30, 2006 04:11 PM
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The lenses were design to throw a specific beam. I just wonder if you put a dual filament bulb in if the beam would be the correct pattern. It seems like the high beam lense would still be a high beam even when the low filament is glowing.
you are correct on that. no matter what bulb you put in it's still the high beam. waste of money for this "upgrade" while you blind others at night.
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posted January 30, 2006 04:36 PM
Not true, the part of the beam that would blind the oncoming driver is cut off completely. I have already put an H4 bulb in and and the beam was cut off perfectly.
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posted January 30, 2006 04:58 PM
the high beam reflector will not change on what bulb you put in it.
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posted January 31, 2006 08:37 AM
The high beams will stay the same although they end up being adjused up which shouldn't hurt.
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posted January 31, 2006 12:17 PM
Edited By: salsa1 on 31 Jan 2006 12:19
I got the conversion with harnesses and new Xenon bulbs in the mail yesterday from Adam ; package and harness and all included looks very proffesional; comes with detailed instructions even. Does need some adjusting of the beams as per instructions to level both lights evenly . I Think I can find an acceptable compromise that will work as far as adjustment goes . can't see a problem with this mod . At $60.00 after sending back old harness is well worth the money to me... look forward to cruising with both headlights working together ... can report my results after I install but I can't t forsee any dissapointments myself...
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posted January 31, 2006 01:21 PM
Does he use H4 bulbs?
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posted January 31, 2006 01:38 PM
I'll check in a while .. stay tuned.
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posted January 31, 2006 02:58 PM
Yes..
H4: WHITE HID COLOR APPEARANGE H4 12V60/55W XENON (gas filled) Halogen Plasma Bulbs.
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posted January 31, 2006 04:24 PM
He mentioned in the e-bay offer that a chance of burning up a harness is possible; just a heads up .
his relays and harness are all assembled to work already.
Just info in case it avoids an accident. not saying it can't be duplicated.
I am a electrical engineer and don't mind a blue collar craft person puting this together. I welcome a proven design for the little money spent. I'll just install and enjoy.
Kawasaki should know by now not too many folks like just one low beam or uneven high beams I would hope. Even if this mod does not give 100% symetry it should be a huge improvement towards it.
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posted January 31, 2006 05:38 PM
Edited By: TedG on 31 Jan 2006 17:42
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I am a electrical engineer ......
Me too.
And thanks for the info about the bulbs. I am sure you will see what I was talking about when I said it cuts off the top of the beam.
The relay thing is a piece of cake.
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posted February 01, 2006 07:41 PM
Edited By: salsa1 on 1 Feb 2006 20:24
UPDATE: The kit I have purchased will have bulbs of more intensity than what I informed in my post above; should have them in tommorow or next day. I can detail info then.
Also have had to struggle some with mod as the relays crowd available space a bit more than expected; spoke with Adam and I hope to sort all out to ensure it all fits. More work than expected so far but hope to work out. Not exactly a perfect fit to work with but replacing wires at worst may be the solution. Will see..
Bulbs should provide much more lighting than stock.
Adam has been willing to work with me and is trying to give a good product ; His mod still needs fine tuming like ideal wire lengths to fit ZX-10R perfectly...most of his mods have gone to other bikes like the 636..
I don't doubt he has spent a fair amount of time just putting harness together; kinda a pain to re-wire harness in but is do-able.
Plan to give bottom line results later ; if any questions let me know.
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posted February 04, 2006 12:12 PM
Edited By: salsa1 on 4 Feb 2006 12:13
8 degrees this morning ....but should have all installed soon as the day warms up I expect.
I recieved two bulbs in the mail from Adam yesterday ... one of the bulbs had broken and he had sent me two Halogen gas filled H4 bulbs to tie me over. Now I have the bulbs meant for optimum performance with this kit from Adam. They are Xenon (blue color) gas filled and are supposed to be newer technology and much brighter white than the Halogen gas filled.
Look forward to blinding the other guys with the cyclops disease and perhaphs leaving any R1 owners wondering ..how did I do that.. that is assuming I wont melt anything on the 10R hehe.
Nah...Should be alright...kit has also an inline fuse as it hooks up directly to the battery.
Thats all for now.
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posted February 04, 2006 01:44 PM
This reminds me of when I had my 954. A friend of mine got the same exact bike that I had. He didn't think the headlights were bright enough so he bought some of those high output blue bulbs for it. They were brighter than the stock bulbs BUT he had to constantly replace them for they would blow out often. I put over 24,000 miles on my 954 and it still had the original bulbs in it when I sold it. I found that the more you mess with a bike the less reliable it will be. I hope that your kit works great and you have no problems but I would be afraid to try it. Does the kit make permanent changes so that you can't go back to stock if it doesn't work out (like having to cut the headlight assembly to fit the bulbs in)? Good luck!
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