den
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posted October 22, 2004 08:34 AM
wide band commander
who ever tries it ? who knows something about it ?
  
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posted October 22, 2004 09:04 AM
Air/Fuel ratio meter.
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NINJA12
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posted October 22, 2004 11:24 AM
I have the LM-1 that doug spencer sell, Great tool!
Karl and johnnycheese were the first two with great reviews.
What do you want to know?
Instant A/F will riding.
Data logging for easy mapping.
Easy install.
I'm not a salesmen but if you like to tune and tinker this is a must have.
It's a poor mand DYNO!
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SP8
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posted October 22, 2004 05:10 PM
I want a Wide Band Commander. The thing that bothers me is having someone weld the sensor bung to my TiForce. I hear steel, and Ti don't like to be welded together. So a one off Ti bung will need to be made for all us non-Akra, and Micron Ti pipe owners.
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den
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posted October 22, 2004 06:05 PM
already ordered it, get it next week, here there's no dyno, and all supplied maps for the 10r and my 12r aren't good, so i must have this tool to tune myself my bikes, the wide band commander is not expensive.
"I have the LM-1 that doug spencer sell, Great tool!
Karl and johnnycheese were the first two with great reviews.
What do you want to know?
Instant A/F will riding.
Data logging for easy mapping.
Easy install.
I'm not a salesmen but if you like to tune and tinker this is a must have.
It's a poor mand DYNO!"
ninja 12, is it easy to have the best A/F ratio ? what's the best for the 10r and the 12r?
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BIKEMIKE
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posted October 22, 2004 06:47 PM
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already ordered it, get it next week, here there's no dyno, and all supplied maps for the 10r and my 12r aren't good, so i must have this tool to tune myself my bikes, the wide band commander is not expensive.
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Who did you order it from DEN?
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den
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posted October 22, 2004 06:55 PM
i ordered in France.
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ninja12
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posted October 22, 2004 07:14 PM
Best A/F ratio is a little hard to say even with a dyno. short answer ~12.2.
This tool will tell you what your A/F is at a certain tps and rpm.
example... you hit record and ride your bike just like you always do.
Stop lights, run it thru the gears, whatever, then go back a look at the
A/f map. If a squre (2% tps at 5000 rpm) was 13.5 in the a/f map then you go into the same square in the power commander map and make adjustments. Then go ride again.
If your bike misbehaves at a certin RPM, hit record and go to that RPM. no more guessing rich or learn , and at what exact RPM and TPS.
For everyday traffic you would be VERY supprised at how few squares are used.
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den
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posted October 22, 2004 07:26 PM
thanks for these infos. i suppose you did it. and how is your bike running now?
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BIKEMIKE
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posted October 22, 2004 08:16 PM
quote:
Best A/F ratio is a little hard to say even with a dyno. short answer ~12.2.
This tool will tell you what your A/F is at a certain tps and rpm.
example... you hit record and ride your bike just like you always do.
Stop lights, run it thru the gears, whatever, then go back a look at the
A/f map. If a squre (2% tps at 5000 rpm) was 13.5 in the a/f map then you go into the same square in the power commander map and make adjustments. Then go ride again.
If your bike misbehaves at a certin RPM, hit record and go to that RPM. no more guessing rich or learn , and at what exact RPM and TPS.
For everyday traffic you would be VERY supprised at how few squares are used.
ninja12,
The LM-1 with no add on's will do that? Is it hard tp hook up?
Mike
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den
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posted October 23, 2004 06:03 PM
bikemike, you don't need that tool, your 10r is already tuned by Ivan.
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BIKEMIKE
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posted October 23, 2004 06:36 PM
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bikemike, you don't need that tool, your 10r is already tuned by Ivan.
I don't need the 10r either but I thought it would look cool at the dragstrip if I whipped out my laptop and plugged in. I guess I could plug into the Power Comander and just play solitare, save some money 
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big daddy
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posted October 23, 2004 06:50 PM
Aren't these commonly referred to as Lamda sensors?
BD
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BIKEMIKE
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posted October 24, 2004 02:14 AM
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bikemike, you don't need that tool, your 10r is already tuned by Ivan.
Hey den,
When you get hooked up please report back here on how you like it. I want another toy.
Mike
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ninja12
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posted October 24, 2004 11:47 AM
you do need the adaptor to get tps,rpm, ETC.
It's only ~$100, which brings it in line with other units $450-500.
The base unit give a/f but has no inputs for rpm or tps.
Sorry if i mislead you.
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BIKEMIKE
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posted October 24, 2004 01:54 PM
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you do need the adaptor to get tps,rpm, ETC.
It's only ~$100, which brings it in line with other units $450-500.
The base unit give a/f but has no inputs for rpm or tps.
Sorry if i mislead you.
No mislead,
Did you hook that up on a ZX10R?
Was it hard to access the inputs for the RPM and TPS?
Did you mount that unit on the bike, it looke a little large from some vid's I saw of it?
Thanks for the help,
Mike
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den
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posted October 24, 2004 05:43 PM
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you do need the adaptor to get tps,rpm, ETC.
It's only ~$100, which brings it in line with other units $450-500.
The base unit give a/f but has no inputs for rpm or tps.
Sorry if i mislead you.
No mislead,
Did you hook that up on a ZX10R?
Was it hard to access the inputs for the RPM and TPS?
Did you mount that unit on the bike, it looke a little large from some vid's I saw of it?
Thanks for the help,
Mike
i email these questions to the french dealer and waiting for answers, sure i will let you know. I'll get mine next week
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NINJA12
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posted October 26, 2004 10:13 AM
 Edited By: NINJA12 on 26 Oct 2004 11:27
It's a little large for bling
(approx 7" x 4" x 2"), but it's a tool.
Hook it up, tune your bike, take it off.
I have a zx12. 2 wire to battery +,-.
1 wire tps, 1 ground , and 1 (RPM) coil ground.
All 3 can be found at the ecu.
very simple one you fine the wires.
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BIKEMIKE
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posted October 26, 2004 10:29 AM
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It's a little large for bling
(approx 7" x 4" x 2"), but it's a tool.
Hook it up, tune your bike, take it off.
I have a zx12. 2 wire to battery +,-.
1 wire tps, 1 ground , and 1 (RPM) coil ground.
All 3 can be found at the ecu.
very simple one you fine the wires.
Thanks.
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NINJA12
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posted October 26, 2004 11:17 AM
Don't forget you must have a bung welded into you header!
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BIKEMIKE
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posted October 26, 2004 11:25 AM
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Don't forget you must have a bung welded into you header!
It's on my Akra.
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SP8
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posted October 26, 2004 04:30 PM
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Don't forget you must have a bung welded into you header!
Has anyone done this yet?
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den
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posted October 26, 2004 06:19 PM
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bikemike, you don't need that tool, your 10r is already tuned by Ivan.
I don't need the 10r either but I thought it would look cool at the dragstrip if I whipped out my laptop and plugged in. I guess I could plug into the Power Comander and just play solitare, save some money
sorry to reply late to your post, i agree with you. i like being able doing things by myself.
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den
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posted October 31, 2004 09:43 AM
GOOD! the wbc just arrived take some pics as soon as possible, great tool, it records air fuel ratio and you can modify your pc3, see that was too lean about everywhere !! i began to work on my map, and trying same time great, i can feel the difference!!
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BIKEMIKE
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posted October 31, 2004 10:28 AM
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GOOD! the wbc just arrived take some pics as soon as possible, great tool, it records air fuel ratio and you can modify your pc3, see that was too lean about everywhere !! i began to work on my map, and trying same time great, i can feel the difference!!
Great news Den, keep us posted.
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