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D


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posted April 09, 2004 08:14 AM        
Slipper Clutch

So does this feature greatly accelerate clutch wear?

Will synthetic oil affect it in any way?

Was just wondering about that last night when cruisin around.

And why does the speedo work in reverse?

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hammerli


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posted April 09, 2004 08:22 AM        
Since the pickup for the speedo is electronic, the readout registers the number of pickups regardless of direction.
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marco383


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posted April 09, 2004 09:28 AM        
How the hell are you riding in reverse? My bike didn't come with that gear; did I get screwed by Kawasaki?
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andy


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posted April 09, 2004 10:25 AM        
Does it have reverse lights too?
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extremelean


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posted April 09, 2004 10:37 AM        
yeah....reverse gear....you know...those things you put down when you come to a stop light and you've stopped too far forward.....cmon everyone has it......I think

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posted April 09, 2004 12:44 PM        
Dunno why I noticed it - apparently I do a whole 2mph in reverse when I pull the bike outta the garage in the mornin.
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posted April 09, 2004 12:46 PM        
Just as long as you don't exceed 4000 rpm.
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posted April 09, 2004 01:25 PM        
D, I get to 4~5 MPH backing out of my garage...


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posted April 09, 2004 01:34 PM        
Downshifting the 10 vs the ZX12 is a dream come true.
The springs on my 12's clutch are "he-man" stiff. Trying to setup for a corner and downshifting 2 gears often results in a loose or fishtailing back end.
The 10 on the other hand.. eats that shit up.
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posted April 09, 2004 01:44 PM        
No ones answered the qeustion. Will it cause premature clutch wear?
Will synthetic oil affect it differently?
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andy


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posted April 09, 2004 03:31 PM        Edited By: andy on 9 Apr 2004 16:32
quote:
No ones answered the qeustion. Will it cause premature clutch wear?
Will synthetic oil affect it differently?


Yep driving in reverse is fun.

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hokoyo


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posted April 09, 2004 03:50 PM        
Does counter steering work the opposite in reverse?
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swft


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posted April 09, 2004 03:56 PM        
Only if you cross your arms...
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hokoyo


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posted April 09, 2004 04:42 PM        
Okay, so you would then front the bike into a corner?
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posted April 10, 2004 02:05 AM        Edited By: iculukn on 10 Apr 2004 03:06
I'm busting a gut here...you all make me laugh. I noticed the speed reading backing up also and got to wonder if I could go faster:
Yes, it works!

hokoyo - No! You have to counter, counter steer in reverse with your arms folded and of course, cross your eye's so your right eye looks at the left mirror and feeds the input to your left brain so you backup write/rite/right/straight/strait...ummm, shit huh
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D


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posted April 10, 2004 07:04 AM        
I just knew I should made another post about the reverse speed thang.
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posted April 12, 2004 06:42 PM        
So - any clutch related answers/theories?
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Michael Lee


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posted April 12, 2004 06:45 PM        
Good question - I just don't no.
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reilly809


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posted April 13, 2004 06:18 AM        
Lets see who can go the fastest backing up !! I bet I can get 8 MPH. Anyone think they can bet that??
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posted April 13, 2004 06:59 AM        
I'll get 10 off a trailer at a track day.
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posted April 13, 2004 07:59 AM        Edited By: Erich on 13 Apr 2004 09:00
D, the answer to your question is something of a yes and no answer.

Technically yes as the clutch pack is being released to allow the plates to slip to not let the engine increase revs when being driven by the rear wheel. If you routinely go out and dump the clutch at high speeds and low gears with the clutch pulled in so the engine is at idle, then its not any different continually doing a clutch dump while holding the throttle pinned. Abuse no matter the diretion of drive will kill any clutch.

Ultimately its a question of the design for the ramp angle and springs that determine how they modulate or maintain the equilibrium point where the pressure plate is released and wanting to come back to engagement.

Done properly the equilibrium point can be controlled well enough to avoid the type of heat that kills plates like a rider inflicts thru manually trying to control slip thru the clutch lever...ala drap starts.

Time will tell how well they designed this unit. But as this is'nt Kawi's first slipper clutch on a production bike, I wouldn't worry about it.

You be kind to it, and there should be little different in longevity to a standard clutch.

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posted April 13, 2004 03:50 PM        
Thanks fer the answer.

Seems like Muzzy will be steppin in with a billet part for the drag guys then - right?

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