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posted August 13, 2008 02:48 AM
You will have to check the O.D of the steel line to use it with compression fittings.
Here is my wet spraybar. No drilling into the velocity stacks
  
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rquinn
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posted August 13, 2008 06:13 AM
Hey! Nick this is Ron man got your dry setup on the bike man this thing is super nice guys.
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posted August 13, 2008 06:42 AM
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Hey! Nick this is Ron man got your dry setup on the bike man this thing is super nice guys.
thanks,so how much are you spraying?
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shane661
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posted August 13, 2008 06:47 AM
How do you mount the spraybar in the airbox on the 14? Do you have to drill the frame or anything? How do you get the lines into the box without creating air leaks?
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posted August 13, 2008 06:59 AM
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How do you mount the spraybar in the airbox on the 14? Do you have to drill the frame or anything? How do you get the lines into the box without creating air leaks?
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posted August 13, 2008 07:08 AM
 Edited By: shane661 on 13 Aug 2008 08:12
That is very clean. Do you offer it with braided lines in the box as well? So the showerhead is right inside the inspection plate then?
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posted August 13, 2008 07:10 AM
Yes I offer braided lines. You can mount the showerhead anywhere inside the airbox
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posted August 13, 2008 07:18 AM
Thanks for the pics, you have a pm.
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posted August 13, 2008 08:12 AM
Nick, does the separate nozels change the fuel pressure or jetting requirements?
On a normal Wet nozzel the nitous help the fuel atomize.
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Gixx1300R
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posted August 13, 2008 08:16 AM
Yes there is a change on the jetting since my Wet system only uses one jet per showerhead
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rquinn
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posted August 13, 2008 01:16 PM
I have a 60 on it right now you know I will be giving you a call.
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posted August 13, 2008 02:36 PM
Woppi, thats what i want to make! what jets(funnel or flare?) and fitting do you use?
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00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
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posted August 13, 2008 02:42 PM
Scott
where are you getting your compression fittings?
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posted August 13, 2008 02:57 PM
Edited By: KZScott on 13 Aug 2008 16:25
i have a bunch now that came with it. brass ones. you can see the ones for the jets in the pic i posted.
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted August 16, 2008 11:07 PM
Edited By: KZScott on 17 Aug 2008 00:13
made some brackets to hold the fogger nozzels
just curious if anyone can answer this one. assuming that the AFR will stay the same if i spray a 60 shot compared to NA(20 N jet, 24 F jet), how much richer would it be if i used fuel jets for an 80 shot(28), but nitrous jets for a 60 shot(20) ?
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted August 18, 2008 03:08 AM
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Woppi, thats what i want to make! what jets(funnel or flare?) and fitting do you use?
KZScott
i bought the lot used wet system from "buddy" -- after his blown engine at the texas mile
ther are funnel jets inside, sorry dont know which fittings !
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ymbre
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posted August 18, 2008 12:30 PM
Edited By: ymbre on 18 Aug 2008 13:36
Here is my wet setup! I use Gixx1300Rman 2 stage wet spraybar with big solenoids.
It not fits so easyly like drill 2 holes and bolt it on, there is not enougt room for plastic pipes to bend them correcly, thatswhy I made new plate for airbox to lift showerheads about 1 or 1/2 inch higher , it takes whole day or more to fit bar correcly, now its good
Here is Nos in the left and fuel solenoid with filter in rightside, they are not attached not kind of way , there is exactly free space for solenoids under the tank cover - not need any cutting, only need to relocate realys,
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posted August 18, 2008 12:51 PM
ymbre very very nice.
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posted August 18, 2008 01:51 PM
ok thx guys. got it sorted out, getting some stuff thru Gixx1300R 
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted August 19, 2008 05:14 AM
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my mine: ---- i am not a friend of these plastic lines !!!!! better using the stainlessteel lines !!!
because the backfire !! one day --the plastic lines are burned --- and you can not see it !!!!
you spray --- and --- BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM
would not use the plastic lines !!!!! its a little more work -- to mount the steel lines !!!
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posted August 19, 2008 09:25 AM
My kits are upgradable to Steel Braided or Stainless Steel lines,even after the kit has been purchased.
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posted August 19, 2008 03:34 PM
Im getting stainless lines 
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted August 22, 2008 06:50 PM
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just curious if anyone can answer this one. assuming that the AFR will stay the same if i spray a 60 shot compared to NA(20 N jet, 24 F jet), how much richer would it be if i used fuel jets for an 80 shot(28), but nitrous jets for a 60 shot(20) ?
?
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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posted August 22, 2008 09:59 PM
I don't think you mentioned this yet, but I assume you are using a fuel pressure regulator to reduce the pressure to the nozzles( like the Muzzy kit does). ??
What chart/calculator are you using that says 20N, 24F for a 60 shot? That is a big fuel jet, It must be for very low fuel pressure (I'd guess 4psi).
Most nitrous jet charts/calculators are conservative- they yield a nitrous AFR of 11.5 or less (your O2 sensor will see the overall AFR - all-motor AFR mixed with the nitrous AFR).
If you add 33% more fuel (80 shot jets) It will be way too rich.
It is a good idea to start with extra safety factor for testing then adjust. If you don't want to buy a lot of jets, I'd start with the jets the chart recommends, but use a higher fuel pressure than the chart is for. Then after testing, back off the fuel pressure to get the AFR you want.
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posted August 23, 2008 06:51 AM
No i dont have a pressure regulator like the Muzzy stealth kit because i have a NOS kit that has its own seperate fuel pump. the pump is 4 psi, and not adjustable. i will probly upgrade next yr to the holley blue pump and get a regulator for that so i can fine tune AFR with fuel pressure like you suggested. right now im stuck with changing jets or changing PC maps.
this is what im using for a chart
· T e c h n i c a l B u l l e t i n ·
Motorcycle Fogger Jetting
The following is intended as a safe baseline for fogger systems. There are two fuel jet columns listed below. One column for fuel jet size with the fuel pump that comes in the kits and the other column for hi-output pumps – like the Holley Blue with 5-7 psi flowing pressure. The nitrous jet chart is based on bottle pressure of 900-950 psi. Ignition timing should as a baseline be retarded to 1/5 to 2 degrees for every 50 h.p. worth of nitrous hp used. Ignition timing should be retarded from the best timing on motor only. (The point at which best MPH or Torque was achieved.)
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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