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CrotchRocket


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posted October 26, 2003 06:16 PM        
I use RedLine 10-40 synthetic in both 12s, NO PROBLEMS!!!

Do not change to a Muzzy clutch if you have a 2002/03/04!!!...It will take away your clutch life...On the 2002 the clutch lasted to 126 passes with just the Billet Basket mod...I now have the 11 same fibers/10 2.0 steels and only get 54 passes!!!...So now I am going back to 12 same fibers and 11 steels that came in the factory set up!!!...Dont know what size they were yet, but when I find out thats what I will be using from now on!!!
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BA


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posted October 26, 2003 06:30 PM        
TurboBlew is right STKEHLER, your dealer is a complete moron.

I've had 3 bikes, at around 23,000 miles....always synthetic after a proper break-in on dino oil. Hundreds and hundreds of drag races and burnouts.

The only thing that is hurting my clutch is repetitive high-rpm drag launches, and sometimes, not enough cooldown time.

Mobil 15w50, Royal Purple, Motorex, etc.



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stkehler


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posted October 26, 2003 06:33 PM        
That's what I thought
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swft


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posted October 26, 2003 07:06 PM        
Mobil 1 MX4T for me, easiest for me to get.
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necro


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posted October 26, 2003 08:17 PM        
Oils are like black magic. Sometimes even our oil suppliers don't know how to answer my engine oil questions.
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Eddyo


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posted October 28, 2003 03:20 PM        
My 02 12 has 13,000 miles on it using Mobil#1 15-50. Frequency is the operative word.
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chewiezx-12r


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posted October 28, 2003 03:41 PM        
OH

So maby I should'nt be useing Extra Virigin Olive Oil then.

DAMN - No wonder my bikes starting to sound funny

Should'nt have listened to mum...

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necro


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posted October 28, 2003 08:45 PM        
Hum. You know there are hydraulic systems that use corn oil.

Also there are water hydraulic systems.


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psycho1122


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posted October 29, 2003 06:51 AM        
Mobil 1 15w50 "Red Cap".

Out performs even MX4T! After having my drained oil tested at

(www.oillab.com) NOTHING has held up better than the 15w50......Not Motul 300V, Amsoil, Royal Purple (Junk) etc. Actualy, Castrol GTX 20w50 holds up better than most of these!

I buy mine at Wal-Mart CHEAP!
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frEEk


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posted October 29, 2003 07:46 PM        
quote:
So maby I should'nt be useing Extra Virigin Olive Oil then.

but at least u'll keep ur cholesterol low if u eat ur bike.

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1bad12r


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posted October 30, 2003 05:26 AM        
I just changed to Mx4t. No problems yet.
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EastBayDave


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posted October 30, 2003 06:08 AM        
MXT4 ever since end of break-in....no problems...
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Hells Dark Lord


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posted October 30, 2003 12:08 PM        
anything but Motul.....I had that put in one time, and I started getting false neutrals, adn the clutch felt like shit....didnt sli[p though.....went back to a different brand...and no more problems.......I didnt care for amsoil much either...but by far the worst oil I have used was Motul.....
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Megabyte


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posted October 30, 2003 01:18 PM        
quote:
Mobil 1 MX4T for me, easiest for me to get.

Same here, and for the same reasons!
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PATRICK12R


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posted October 30, 2003 03:31 PM        
mobil 1 car oil. 5w-30 synthetic. over 50 passes this summer, no clutch problems. $27.00 for six pack at local napa. came recomended by bde.
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Zx23rr


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posted October 30, 2003 03:43 PM        
The difference between Mobil 1 and Mobil MX4T is that the later has less than 5 ppm of moly in it. Mobil 1 has 80 ppm of moly.
My take on clutches is the more plates and steel in it, the more torque it will be able to take-if the plates and steels are up to it. Heat is the ultimate limitation for any clutch. If you launch and slip your clutch all the way though first, I don't think it matters one bit what kind of ol you have in the pan. Also remember that if you super heat the clutch over and over, at some point the clutch springs may start to permenantly loss there tension.

As for clutch longevity, I have an old 92 Zx-11 with arguably 155 plus rear ponies. I have been down the track over the years hundreds of times and down the street for over 62,500 miles - 101,000 kms. The cover has been off to change springs. It still has the Original Fibres and are mint! Clutch stack height is well with in specs. Running 17/41 gearing. etc, blah, blah, blah. - I don't abuse it by never launching at anything above 5000rpm. It wheelies at that point very nicely.

Mobil One is probably the best all round oil. I am still trying to figure out if Diesel oil is as good.


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