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posted July 30, 2003 08:52 PM
What's A Good Energy Drink
That's the only thing I eat during a race weekend, energy drink and bars.
I haven't found the ultimate one yet though.
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posted July 30, 2003 09:46 PM
i like Sobey .
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posted July 30, 2003 09:47 PM
altho i have a hard time believing it's the best, my sister always drinks gatorade. she had some serious surgery on her intestines for crohns and needed to drink ALOT to keep herself hydrated and electrolyte levels correct. doesnt drink it as much now, but drnak it literally constantly while recuperating from the surgery. she actually mentioned it had too much sugar to be ideal for dehydration or something, but the electrolyte levels was her main concern. being a degree nurse (as opposed to jsut registered), i generally give her opinion on these things pretty good weight.
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posted July 30, 2003 10:38 PM
I wouldn't necessarily call it an energy drink, but Cytomax is great stuff. It's more of a 'recovery' drink than an envergy drink. If you drink it during endurance exercises, it reduces the build up of lactic acid. I loved this stuff during our 50-mile bicycle loops. Not even a hint of soreness the next day.
The only drawback is that is does some crazy stuff to your digestive system. Cytomax farts are infamous in cycling circles. 
I know that didn't answer your question at all, but I had to throw it up there anyway.
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posted July 31, 2003 03:31 AM
Err..........ahhhhh...........well......
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The only drawback is that is does some crazy stuff to your digestive system. Cytomax farts are infamous in cycling circles.
That's more info than I needed. 
But it does explain why Bart is always wanting to "work" the bike races.
Most of the guys I know that drink energy drinks like the Sobe.
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posted July 31, 2003 05:43 AM
<----drinks Sobe for those 20k road marches we do. followed up by gatorade or powerade afterwards.
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posted July 31, 2003 05:58 AM
I haven't tried sobe. I'll give it a shot.
Thanks
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posted July 31, 2003 02:40 PM
I like the RedBull (sugar free) for a "caffiene like" high. Just be sure to drink lots of water afterwards.
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posted July 31, 2003 03:34 PM
Likewise - RedBull, but full leaded version. For some unknown reason, it's the only one that does not upset my stomach in the heat of battle. Tried most of the others.
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posted July 31, 2003 06:18 PM
 Edited By: redelk on 31 Jul 2003 19:23
No such thing as a "good" energy drink
Jolt Cola... can't buy it here anymore, but made one hell of a drink when mixed with JD. 
Surge... no longer available. 
Actually, I have never had a "energy drink" that did much of anything for me.  Hell, I could drink a six pack of Surge and go straight to sleep. Red Bull and Sobe ain't no different. One of the drawbacks of having narcolepsy.  Of course the fact that I currently take at least 300 mg of a CNS stimulant called Pemoline/Cylert a DAY... might also have something to do with it. Abbot Labs recommends 120 mg as a maximum daily dosage (according to their laboratory rats). 
What sucks is that even though Cylert is a Class IV narcotic, the FDA requires that I get liver enzyme blood work done every two weeks while taking Cylert, which looks like that will be for the rest of my life. Supposedly, Cylert ain't too good for one's liver (DUH!) The funny part is that I've become such good friends with the local and regional folks at Quest Diagnostics (where I get my blood work done), there regional billing rep took me out to dinner when I was in St. Louis (I know she "wants" me).
Over the years I have tried other drugs, but the all had "adverse" side effects. I used to do 200 mg of Methylphenidate/Ritalin (Class II), but that had a tendency to make me, how would you say... "physically violent". Even when adding a couple 100 mg of Sertralin/Zoloft to the "mix". I still have a hole in my bathroom door to prove that medical disaster.  I also was part of a clinical trail for Modafinil/Provigil. That shit worked "real good". It worked "so good", I actually feel asleep on my '97 7R... while going into a 60 mph sweeper! :O Woke up after coming out of the apex! :O :O
The only remaining common choices I basically have left are Methamphetamine/Desoxyn and Dextroamphetamine/Dexedrine. Seeing as how "back in the days" I was "self-medicating" myself with a "different methamphetamine", my doctor is not real keen on prescribing either one of those.
So... if there's a "energy drink" out there with some "REAL KICK" to it. I'd like to know what it is.
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posted July 31, 2003 06:58 PM
dude, you are in a whole different world of stimulants there!! 
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posted July 31, 2003 08:20 PM
I prefer the Hansons "Energy" drink.....
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posted July 31, 2003 09:12 PM
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I like the RedBull (sugar free) for a "caffiene like" high. Just be sure to drink lots of water afterwards.
How come drink lots of water?
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posted July 31, 2003 09:16 PM
Edited By: necro on 31 Jul 2003 22:18
Redelk,
What's narcolepsy?
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posted July 31, 2003 10:08 PM
Edited By: redelk on 31 Jul 2003 23:18
This is basically the best "short definition" I could find.
Narcolepsy is a potentially disabling, lifelong condition estimated to afflict about one in every 1,000 people in the United States. Although it is not rare, narcolepsy is often misdiagnosed or diagnosed years after symptoms first appear. People with narcolepsy are unable to resist falling asleep and do so regardless of the number of hours slept the previous night. The excessive daytime sleepiness experienced by people with narcolepsy has been described as being like trying to stay awake after going 72 hours without sleep.
A symptom that commonly occur with narcolepsy is disturbed nighttime sleep (aka "rapid leg movement") which is tossing and turning in bed, leg jerking or kicking and frequent awakenings. In the past, I have actually bruised my last girlfriend by kicking her at night. I would rarely ever remember doing it. I take a different medication for this.
I do not experience any of the other common symptoms, such as cataplexy, which is the inability to move while going to sleep or waking up and hypnagogic hallucinations which is intense visual or auditory experiences at the beginning or end of a sleep period that are hard to distinguish from reality and are sometimes terrifying. I almost always have very vivid, active and "unusual" dreams nightly. I mean REALLY "unusual". Never anything I would call "nightmares", though.
Family, friends, employers, and even those with narcolepsy often have a hard time understanding the problem and just what is happening. Though many say they wish they could sleep 20 hours a day, I can assure you... you don't. The frustrations, both by the narcoleptic and those around he (or her) can quickly escalate to anger. It can also create abnormal sleep patterns and habits (like me still being at work at 1:20 am, but not coming back to work until 10 am).
The exact cause of narcolepsy is not clearly understood. Narcolepsy seems to be a biological problem, possibly involving abnormalities of brain chemistry. There is no evidence for a psychological basis for the disorder (those that know me might debate that statement). Narcolepsy symptoms can be treated with varying degrees of success with medications and adjustments of lifestyle. There is no known cure for narcolepsy.
A related malady that I have had is Obstructive Sleep Apnea. This is when the tissue on the back of one's soft pallet (roof of your mouth) creates a "flap" that will obstruct breathing while sleeping. One of the most obvious signs is extremely loud snoring and intervals of not breathing at all. I had surgery for this about 9 years ago, but because of my weight gain over the past 6 years (about 40 lbs), I run the risk of it coming back. I have already started to lightly snore on some occasions.
Another definition is a loud, constant snoring that can indicate a potentially life-threatening disorder called sleep apnea. The word "apnea" is derived from Greek to mean "without breath." A person with sleep apnea stops breathing repeatedly while sleeping, anywhere from 10 seconds to 3 minutes. Although an individual may not recall waking up, sleep is disrupted temporarily. As a result, sleep deprivation and excessive daytime sleepiness occur. If left untreated, sleep apnea can trigger high blood pressure and dangerous heart problems.
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posted July 31, 2003 11:25 PM
REDelk,now I know why you might get a little winded on your post. Necro maniac?Try endurance training instead and a balanced meal.Looking for outside stimulants is only a temporary fix,if your body is telling you something ,listen.This old fat couch potato could use some of my own advice.
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posted August 01, 2003 02:30 AM
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How come drink lots of water?
Because of the caffeine in the drink.
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posted August 01, 2003 06:44 AM
Ok - here is my .2 cents!
Water - best drink there is. No carbs, no calories, no fat - drawback is that most water doesn't really have an "engergy" kick, HOWEVER you WILL get depleted if you don't drink enough water. Believe it or not, a person who is around 200 lbs or so should be drinking about 1.5 GALLONS of water PER DAY. Yep - drink more water peeps and you will have more energy .
Gatoraid - Watch out, this drink is LOADED with Carbohydrates - BAD BAD BAD for the person looking to "diet". If you drink the Gator with sugar/fat it will have a tendancy to "assist" in your body's storage of fat - BIG TIME.
Sobe/Red Bull - Some of them are pretty good in terms of overall bad effects... check the label and make sure that Carbs/Sugar (Calories) are low... and try it - if it works, you have a good drink with low negative body impact.
Drugs in addition to Caffene- Different ball game here, most oral "drugs" are hard on the liver, as they need to "pass through" the liver to reach the blood - so drug manufacturers bond them with other "drugs" that prevent the liver from breaking down the drugs. This is what is HARD on the liver. So... bottom line - watch out if you go that route. To make matters worse, some drugs are hard on the liver by themselves (and are compounded with the "liver protection" bonded drugs). I'd stay away if you can. If you need this level of stimulation to keep alert - seriously consider the following:
1. GET MORE SLEEP DAMNIT - most people don't get the 8~9 hours sleep that is really required by most human adults. JUST GET YOUR ASS TO BED - and if you can, take at least a 30 minute nap too. This is THE BEST THING you can do to increase your "alertness" and it is CHEAP and GOOD FOR YOU.
2. GET OFF THE REGULAR STIMULANTS (detox). Yep - this is a hard one (esp for me). STOP drinking coffee, cola and anything else with high levels of caffeen in it. This will make you one angry mofo for a few weeks, but it will give your body time to "detox" from the dependancy on external stimulation. A month or so later... when you need an extra pick me up, you can have a cup of Joe and it should actually make a difference . Yep, your body DOES get "addicted" to the caffeen in coffee and the "normal" effects of caffeen WIIL stop working as you build tolerance to it. This is a rough one - expect to be unhappy for a few weeks, but it WILL work - TRUST me.
3. DRINK MORE WATER (see above).
4. EAT MORE HEALTHY FOOD DAMNIT. This is another "biggie". Most people eat crappy diets. This RADICALLY effects your ability to stay alert. a really "good" diet should be HIGH protine, moderated fats/carbos/calories. Check the carbo intake - bread/ceriel/most soft drinks have CRAZY high carbs. Your body will actually get "lazier" if you keep carb intake too high. You have been warned . Also - try to eat between 4 and 6 meals per day (small with moderated cal/fat/carbs). This will keep your body's metabolism higher and give you more energy.
5. Work out - adding more lean muscle to your bod will also increase your metabolism... becoming a couch potatoe is a downward energy spiral that is hard to break.
Thats all I can think of for now. Yep - my spelling sux ass. Sorry.
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posted August 01, 2003 10:41 AM
ya gotta love health and nutrition debates. u got people arguing on behalf of jsut about every viewpoint except increased cyanide intake :o that, and the "accepted" viewpoints tend to change every few years. frustrating. personally i just try to stick to nature as closely as possible. skip all teh chemicals and manufactured stuff as much as possible in favour of plain organics food. i figure it's the best bet, even if it may not be the absolute most effective diet (like the perfected diets olypic level athletes need to adhere to). only problem is the complete lack of meat in my diet throws off the whole "natural" diet thing
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posted August 01, 2003 10:48 AM
A good glass of strong strong tea will keep you awake more than coffee..
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posted August 01, 2003 09:20 PM
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Necro maniac?Try endurance training instead and a balanced meal.Looking for outside stimulants is only a temporary fix,if your body is telling you something ,listen.This old fat couch potato could use some of my own advice.
I do endurance training. I started that after an endurance race one time. When I got off the bike my pulse was over 175, and I almost collapsed. That's when I thought that this shit should change.
I eat healthy for the most part. I don't eat much meat, and I don't remember the last time I eat butter.
I am asking about energy drinks and energy bars to give some nutrtion because when I race I get nervous enough that I can't eat anything else.
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posted August 01, 2003 09:21 PM
Thanks redelk. I am now enlightened.
Man that is one tough situation. You have to constantly be on top of it.
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