posted June 02, 2003 06:37 AM
Sprocket Specialties and DID are my favorites.
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posted June 02, 2003 08:36 AM
Edited By: jonwright on 2 Jun 2003 09:37
I just went down one tooth on the engine sproket. I understand the 190/50's are lower in diameter than the 180/55 I currently have on the bike (with stock sproket). I'm looking at going with the 190 tire.
I'd like my gearing to be a bit higher so I'm likely to go down two teeth or so on the rear. Anything I'm missing here that I should consider since we're on the whole sproket conversation?
I'd like to use the aluminum sproket - how's durability with you all?
posted June 02, 2003 10:39 AM
I'd like to try the 190/55 but right now I've only been able to find that size in the DOT legal race tires. Would rather stick with 'street' compounds if I can. Like the mileage and sometimes I do get caught in the rain.
posted June 02, 2003 07:24 PM
I got a grand total of about 4k out of my aluminum sprocket specialties sprocket before it was shot. I mean REALLY shot. I rode up to the gap for the last trip and after I got there and did some chain lube action, I noticed that HALF of the teeth were gone. Not worn down, but GONE. Wheelers hooked me up with a steel one. Bet that fucker lasts a little bit longer.
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posted June 02, 2003 07:34 PM
Sprockets, chains and tires are consumables. I'll take the lighter weight, less rotating and unsprung weight of Aluminum. But if you are lookng for longevity steel sprockets, big ass heavy chain and AVON tires are the way to go!
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To those who do not count their life in years, but in how life
has touched them in the past and how much it can hold in the
future; -- Youth is forever.
posted June 02, 2003 07:51 PM
Edited By: jonwright on 2 Jun 2003 20:51
Goddamn, zdroolagain. I mean, zhool. I'd like to actually spend money on some pussey and also ride my bike instead of working on it all the damned time. Already doing plenty of that.
I know this isn't a welfare sport, but I'm also not interested in doing a friggin' rebuild all the damned time. 600-800 miles in a weekend are not uncommon.
I might take the big ass heavy chain and sproket, but I'll let someone else run the AVON tyres.
Reliability does have it's selling points, muh man. Bang for the buck is my thang, chicken wang.
posted June 02, 2003 08:20 PM
Edited By: ZHooligan on 3 Jun 2003 09:22
I am a big skeptic on chains. I have had 530 factory chains and aftermarket chains break when they were new or had a few miles on them. I have found that I change my chains every 4 to 6 thusand miles.Whether I need to or not. Since going to that policy I have not broken a chain and hence not bought an engine case due to a chain failure. As for spockets and how they wear I have had super luck with my Titan Tuff sprocket specialties units. And I am also amazed by the wear some of the guys list for tires, sprockets, chains etc. I am an honest to god hooligan. I do burn outs, rolling burn outs, stoppies, wheelies, drag race, road race on the track, ride extremely aggressive on the street etc.You name it and I am likely in the middle of it! But I don't burn street tires up in a week, or every 1500 miles. My chains and sprockets hold up etc. And for the record I use WD-40 for chain lube. And use it only after I wash the bike. Oh yeah I use a pressure washer on my chain!
Now on my Gold Wing I buy it if it is heavy and chrome!
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To those who do not count their life in years, but in how life
has touched them in the past and how much it can hold in the
future; -- Youth is forever.
posted June 02, 2003 08:49 PM
hmm... so i guess that means u have alot of "worthless" chains lyin around the shop, eh zhool? i may need to call u about a little business transaction
posted June 02, 2003 10:52 PM
Edited By: GOZR on 2 Jun 2003 23:52
ZHOoligan can you describe more about this? $$$? and parts #? THX "my Titan Tuff sprocket specialties units."
REAR?
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quote:I am an honest god hooligan. I do burn outs, rolling burn outs, stoppies, wheelies, drag race, road race on the track, ride extremely aggressive on the street etc.
DAmn. You just abuse your girlfriend like that? Jeez.
posted June 03, 2003 03:33 PM
zhooligan: hehe would you believe i wasted my rear tire in 1500 miles?
i was wracking my brains TRYING to figure out how my tire lasted shorter time than greenglenn's (considering i have half the power and nearly the same weight....)
hehe
ended up those were the tires i had "scrubbed in" at little talladega... hehehe
first sub 3000 mile tire set i've ever had on that yzf...
posted June 03, 2003 03:44 PM
On the track I can understand. I will completely obliterate a set of tires on a track / practice day. On race day I can usually make a practice and 2 - 11 lap races on a set of tires.
I cheat some on the local tracks by using slicks and flipping them around! Seattle and Spokane are about 90% left hand tracks and Portland is about 90% Right hand. But if you flip the slick you can take advantage of the side that has only seen 10% of the track! An old race dog trick. Heaven forbid the factory boys and posers can't do that!!! ____________
To those who do not count their life in years, but in how life
has touched them in the past and how much it can hold in the
future; -- Youth is forever.
posted June 04, 2003 05:57 AM
Dammit zdroolagain - I'm getting more committed to my 12 all the time - I just ordered the titan tough 45 tooth sproket....*sigh*
She's taking over my life (Just like a damned woman) and can't say I'm TOO upset about it...
posted June 04, 2003 03:06 PM
Edited By: ZHooligan on 4 Jun 2003 16:12
jon your comment is a valid one that gets overlooked a lot. The local dealer. IN this day an age of the internet and mail order etc. peopl are forgeting the local guy. Granted some of the local guys can be assholes. But usually if you look around and actually try working with the dealer you can develop a hell of a good relationship.
In almost every case one of the local dealers I work with sells me parts and accessories cheaper then I can buy from anyone. Sometimes the price is better period and sometimes it's better after shipping etc. Tires maybe cheaper on the net sometimes, but frankly the local dealer mounts and balances the tires in his price. So suddenly not to bad.
Recently, a good friend of mine crashe dhis Yamaha Raptor. Took it over a 150 foot cliff. A Sng on the mountain side saved his life. The raptor was trashed. He shopped and called himself to death and came up with the best pricing on the planet. I took his list into my dealer, handed it to him without any prices. Just a parts list. The dealer beat the best pricing around by over $400.00. No granted I get discounts etc. But the reson I get them is because I have earned their loyalty as they have mine.
When I order something and it comes in, I look at it and if I like it I take it. If it's bad or not what I wanted they take it back. As a big guy I don't always know what size to order or even if a XX is wll be big enough. They solve it by ordering me A XL, XX and XXX if available. I try them on and take home the size that fits. I ourchased leathers last year and they ordered in three sets for me. Three different brands for me to try on. I purchased the set that fit and I liked.
People need to look around at the local merchant, or try to develop that relationship with another source. In the end it pays off. Tell me the last time Kneedraggers.com , or Lockhart Phillips sent you 5 sets of gloves to try on to see if any fit, and then let you pay for the set you liked?
I enjoy walking into the local dealerships and stores and people knowing who I am, know my family etc. I enjoy the fact that I cn come in and honestly say I don't like this or that and they take care of me, and they enjoy hearing thank you, and having other customers come in having been told that they are good folks to work with ect. A recent example of this for me was last week I went to Les Swaab tire in the little town I live in. I drive a 1 ton Dodge dually. I purchased custom wheels for it two years ago. I didn't realize it at the time but they sold a set of wheels that were essentially the last 4 wheels made by that company. About six months ago I damaged a wheel. Went to get in replaced and found out I couldn't buy a replacement. Ticked me off but what the hell. Well last week I went in for a front end alignment, the manager asked me why I had a steel wheel on the rear instead of the custom wheel. I explained what happened and that I couldn't buy a replacement. He said you bought them from us right! I said yes. He raised his eyebrow and walked away. About 10 minutes later he called me up to the counter showed me a flier with the custome wheels available for my truck. Said pick one. I did and an hour later a new set of four matching wheels were on my truck. No charge.
Relationships are hard to replace. In a sense people like Muzzy, Spencer Cycle and even Dino are trying to give that kind of services on the internet.
Just my 2 cents.
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To those who do not count their life in years, but in how life
has touched them in the past and how much it can hold in the
future; -- Youth is forever.
posted June 09, 2003 11:02 AM
Edited By: jonwright on 9 Jun 2003 12:04
Yep. Posted my feelings on the local dealer question in the "hindle" thread.
I'm with ya on that one, my man.
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quote:I have built a great relationship with my local dealer. I'd rather support someone local and it also gives me a chance to physically put my hands around a neck if I need to.
I DON'T give them shit about what I can get on the net. I understand they need to make money (they aren't there to give me free shit) and I really try not to be a pain in the ass.
Reward: I get really good service from the guys there. I get stuff pretty quickly and they are really liberal on their pricing. Plus, I also get small goodies on the sly (those little bottles of Plexus? Haven't paid for one yet.).
I have a general idea for what's reasonable for prices and I keep in mind shipping and what not to get my parts to my door when comparing to Net prices.
And yeah, I'll pay a little bit of a premium so I can get good service from folks that I trust. And I think my dealer as well as myself have benefitted.
See: Voz's problems with dood on net that just quoted lowest price.
You Get What You Pay For. 9 times out of 10.
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posted June 02, 2003 06:33 AM
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An old race dog trick. Heaven forbid the factory boys and posers can't do that!!! 