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posted February 20, 2003 05:27 PM
Lets talk about it: relocating the battery
Well.... let's have a talk about it. My bike is sitting in the garage and I have all the tools.... I'm thinking of relocating the battery to under the seat. Well?
thoughts anyone?
ideas?
   
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posted February 20, 2003 06:33 PM
Why? Will it not be higher thereby raising the bikes center of gravity? Or are you trying to cram it in the area near the shock? Seems like a lot of work for very little return.
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posted February 20, 2003 07:03 PM
With Dino's undertail you gain a HUGE amount of space under the rear section. At laguna I saw some extremely lightweight batteries more than capable of accomodating the 12. You would infact be pretty much negating the weight of the battery altogether. You could leave the electronics and assorted relays in the current tray area, or transfer those to , say the perimeter rear bodywork. The would leave you with a nice hole through the center of the bike. Question: do you think the battery hole cover is structural? I have often wondered this.
If the battery was in the back (where it should be) adding accessories or accessing it for whatever would be a snap and as easy as opening the seat.
Maybe a small fishtank in the old battery position? With a light?
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posted February 20, 2003 07:45 PM
I asked the question about the struct. thing in a earlier thread. nd we all pretty much agreed no on the structural part as far as the cover goes.
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posted February 20, 2003 07:52 PM
quote:
Well.... let's have a talk about it. My bike is sitting in the garage and I have all the tools.... I'm thinking of relocating the battery to under the seat. Well?
thoughts anyone?
ideas?
Well, bigger, better battery- that would be good. MadMike said he was working on a mod.
I was thinking of making heavier battery tender cables, and emergency jumper cables that would plug into them in case my battery needs some help. That way, I could make it home or to the shop w/o having to open up my battery box. I'm also open to anything that makes sense.
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posted February 20, 2003 08:48 PM
I should have that system tested this weekend! the larger battery will fit but Im not 100% on the cabels and how I am going to hook them up yet! but I will know more this weekend!
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posted February 20, 2003 09:25 PM
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I should have that system tested this weekend! the larger battery will fit but Im not 100% on the cabels and how I am going to hook them up yet! but I will know more this weekend!
Mad Mike
Let us know how it goes.
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posted February 20, 2003 09:51 PM
why don't you relocate it to hummmm....
up your arse?
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posted February 21, 2003 08:03 AM
The big one might not fight as my ass isnt as big as yer Ballistic!
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posted February 21, 2003 04:43 PM
I don't like the idea of raising any weight either...
Drag Racers usualy put the battery under the swingarm if possible...
I DO like the lighted fish_antlers tank idea though!!! 
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posted February 21, 2003 07:49 PM
Higher center of gravity, shifting weight to the back of a bike that can loft the front end with ease, taking up scarce cargo space and leaving a hole that's pretty much useless without a battery in it. Can't see the benefit yet.
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posted February 21, 2003 10:41 PM
Is there a nos tank that will fit in the hole?
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posted February 22, 2003 05:47 AM
I would use the empty battery compartment to do scientific tests such as discerning the acceleration effects on hamsters. Maybe stitch up a little G-suits for them.
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posted February 22, 2003 08:04 AM
 Edited By: fish_antlers on 22 Feb 2003 08:21
You guys seem to be missing my point.... the battery that I saw weighed next to nothing, so it wouldnt be creating a "high center of gravity"....even moving the stocker there would create a "high center of gravity".... remember that yer FAT ASS is sitting on top of that seat where the battery would be moved to and I bet $$$ that there isnt ONE of you here that weighs less than either the stock battery or the lite one I found. Moving the battery isnt going to make the bike wheelie prone.... it's a friggin zx12r... it's wheelie prone anyways...
put down the crack pipes boys and lets talk about practicality, which is what this is about.
Accessing the battery in it's little "chamber" is a bitch.. We all know this... moving it back 6- 9" under the seat and making it easy to get to shouldnt be a big deal.
Imagine being able to open the seat and touch the battery. What a novel concept! Am I the only one who has cursed and sworn at Kawi in the midst of wrestling with the battery in its current config?
and that is a good point.... perhaps making the battery compartment into a NOS chamber snt such a bad idea... if you got the right size bottle(s) you could put a filler valve on the side of the bike and recharge them in place.
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posted February 22, 2003 08:53 AM
With proper care the battery should only have to be touched when replacing it. I replace mine every 2 years religiously whether it needs it or not due to the stuck on the side of the road factor my friends and I used to endure on long trips.
I bought my bike as a year old leftover and the original battery went dead within a month. When I replaced it I hooked up the battery tender leads and fed them through the hole in the frame on the left side. I also use this lead for a heated vest. When I want other accessories hooked up I go in the junction box under the tank. I for one think the battery is in as good a place as any. Now if it wasn't "maintenance free" I would curse it like the plague!
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posted February 22, 2003 01:10 PM
OK, forget the weight thing. I'd rather have the space under the seat. With my undertail, relocated computer, Muzzys box, and the PCIII there's not much left now. I don't need to worry about relocating something that's in a good spot now and having to secure it in a new spot. If I want power back there I'll run a remote terminal block into your tail. I've had 2 12's over the past 3 years and have yet to see the battery on either of them so I don't see it as a big deal. If it makes sense to you then do it, doesn't to me.
And since you brought it up my ass is not fat, fast yes, fat no.
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posted February 22, 2003 06:21 PM
Dave... I am talking about Dino's undertail... With everything you list there is still room for a pair of size 13 shoes and an Uzi under there... dunno which undertail you have but I suppose it doesnt create the space his does...
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posted February 23, 2003 07:34 AM
FA,
build a battery box and put a nice little gel-cell under the swingarm (horizontally) up near the shock.
I just had a battery box built for a 280CCA (not a little battery) which fits vertically in front of the tire. My 6" ext arm gives lots of room, but for a smaller battery it seems there's room on top or under the front of the stock arm?????
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posted February 24, 2003 09:20 AM
what do you keep in the old "hole" (ack.... that's a loaded question! )
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posted February 24, 2003 10:59 AM
That would be a good place to keep hot dogs or a hoagie to eat. Nice and warm!
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posted February 24, 2003 04:46 PM
Battery
Yo Fish,
Do you have a photo or two of the Dino undertail? I'm curious to see what it looks like on the outside and the inside (how much room)
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posted February 25, 2003 01:07 AM
sorry I dont.. Dino never gave me one (the bastard!!!!).. worm~hole has one though...
hey stinky worm~hole... show us a pic of that undertail already!
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