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posted February 04, 2003 05:36 PM
First member Pastor Elk would want to BAN
Some guy that goes by the name badboy (could it be BigBusa in drag?) has started posting anti-war crap over at LAB. If he ever started posting that dribble over here, I don't know how much I could take!
At first, I thought that this SF Bay area blow hard was on a typical LAB "fishing trip" and just wanted to see who would get pissed off. Even his "pop" at Doug and Muzzy was almost laughable.
In my opinion...compared to Akrapovic a Muzzy is CRAP.
I remmember how fast they came out with thier crap with what is not enough testing for me.
AKRAPOVIC v MUZZY
KAWASAKI v HARLEY
DAINESE v VANSON
MERCEDES v DODGE
See if it's made here in the USA it's usually junk.
Get your money back and stop fucking with thoses chumps at muzzy. Theses discussions go round and round about muzzys but you'll never see AKRAPOVIC talking to you and trying to send maps!
Now, I sadly realize that this confused throwback from the 60's is not only against just about everything America stands for... he also HATES Jews and Israel.
I could almost stomach his mindless following of the retired founder of "Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream", but the constant spewing of his anti-America and anti-war rhetoric makes me sick. When sent me over the edge was his unprovoked attack on Jews and Israel.
Hey Lofty are you jewish? What does the jewish flag with world domination writin all over it? I pray is does not mean what i think it says. JEWISH WORLD DOMINATION????????????
and this....
Hopefully the EVIL people in this world at this moment and the BAD JEWS who are causing all the problems will get there just desserts. It's too bad they don't seem to remember the holacaust (SIC) and where they have come from.
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DON'T SIT AROUND SCARED DO SOMETHING AND SPREAD THE WORD!
If you want to get a look at what this "Susan Sarandon" wannabe has posted, just look at the 12R forum at LAB.
http://www.labusas.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=26766
Call me a Jew-lovin' redneck if you wish, but I swear, as your humble moderator, if this guy shows up here and types out one anti-Jewish comment, I will spend the rest of my days deleting every damn thing this little dickweed tries to post.
Too harsh? Freedom of speech? Need to have an open mind? FUCK THAT! Not when this forum has members currently serving our nation in the middle east. Right or wrong, we need to show them our support. I will especially not tolerate someone insulting the Jewish members of this forum, either. PERIOD!
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posted February 04, 2003 05:43 PM
 Edited By: ZHooligan on 4 Feb 2003 18:08
If he shows up here, Nuke his ass with an American made bomb with a good Canadian Beer strap to it!! It's a free country, and as such he can form his own board with his other hate monger friends and fill it with hate.
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posted February 04, 2003 05:51 PM
Amen.
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posted February 04, 2003 05:54 PM
Edited By: nedragr on 4 Feb 2003 18:07
I just have to shake my head at people like that. My dad was involved in the invasion of Normandy, actually came in on Omaha Beach, crawled over and hid behind his friends that gave their life for this country. (200,000 men lost) Buried him two years ago and found that he had received five battle stars for magor conflicts including the Battle of the Bulge.(80,000 men lost) If it's our time to fight for peace, then so be it. We owe it to our kids, and our country men before us. If your not willing to fight for freedom, you don't deserve it. I get tired of hearing and listening to these bottle fed basterds. He's a coward, plain and simple!! Sorry for the rant!! Those kind of people don't have a clue how this country was built.
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redelk
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posted February 04, 2003 06:10 PM
Edited By: redelk on 4 Feb 2003 18:16
Actually, this guy almost scares me. His typos and sometimes broken English makes think that this guy is NOT exactly what he claims to be. He says he's got a Busa and a 12R, as well as having once owned a ZX11 and a Gixxer 750. Yet he doesn't even know what a BMC filter is.
Makes me wonder what his "real" intent is. How could someone embrace the freedoms motorcycling brings and yet be so anti-freedom? I'll be the first to disagree with some of the policies of ours and other countries' governments, but to be SO anti-American and SO anti-Jewish, can't help but lead me to believe that this guy's just trying to start something.
Some oldtimers might remember that we've had a similar poster like this around 9/11. I ain't gonna deal with it again.
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posted February 04, 2003 07:59 PM
well said, but you *could * (evil thought) keep list of ones like that so we can all send them email and let them know how dumb they are ;P
i know i know privacy etc... hehe
anyway glad there are folks who are still willing to stand for something even if there is opposition. People who want to roll over and let everyone else eat our bellies ought to be tied to anthill in floriduh.
racism, bah if you are too self centred to accept that there are people out there who don't look like you, then crawl back under your rock so you can be safe from your 'enemies'
freedom of speech is just that. they can wander about and mumble whatever you want. but remember, a private forum is just that, PRIVATE. thisis a private forum, you have to be a member to post etc. therefore freedom of speech is limited to the acceptable limitations and rules that they were supposed to read before joining to post. so when they whine about their rights being violated, as a group we can politely and FIRMLY inform them that the people they are maligning are the ones who are PROTECTING Their freedom to be a dolt. then to add insult to injury, revoke posting priveleges, but allow them the ability to read the stuff. nothing more aggravating to people like that then to be ignored :-)
5 or 6 years of moderating a Christian IRC channel or 2 has taught me that lesson well. (or 7 years??? sheesh has it been that long??)
there is difference between dissenting opinions, and hateful uninformed trash talking.
oy vey... hehehe
time for bed
all you folks out there protecting our freedom, keep safe, stay alive and come home
  
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posted February 04, 2003 08:05 PM
It really makes me want to puke what he is saying!!!!! both of my grandfathers were in WWII, and I cant even imagine what they would have done if I would have started some peace not war shit! they would have disowned me!!! after they kicked my butt. it is sad to see people like that not honoring the people that have given the ultimate sacrifice!! Red I am with you 110% on this one bud!!!!
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posted February 04, 2003 08:13 PM
Like our "Jewish" friends would say Redelk...Mazel tov... 
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posted February 04, 2003 08:30 PM
Red,
I too have been pissed about the banter that he has been spreading over at the other site. Almost made me re-register just to give him a piece of my mind, but I figured that any response to him was more than he deserved.
I am currently serving my 20th year in the U.S. Navy and don't agree with his anti-war bullshit at all. We were just talking about the anti-war rallys at work today. Of course the majority of us wish that the anti-war shit would stop, but agree that they have the right to express those comments.
I personally feel that they have a right to make the anti-war protests if they feel that strongly about it. I further feel that once a war starts they have the duty to support the troops that are placing their lives on the line so that they will continue to have the right to freely express their opinions.
Racist comments are not appropriate and I fully support your decision to ban anyone who posts such comments on this board.
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posted February 04, 2003 08:32 PM
Well Red
Sherm,
Not that this hit's home with me...
I personally am willing to accept abuse for my people. Hum let's see the people that control the entertainment world, the finacial world, lawyers, doctors, and in general the most successful people in the states.
Know I understand why as with hilter we were a target.
Pretty simple to me, let's look at a group/race that has something I don't an single them out.
No worries Sherm, life has this amazing cycle (in this case it is not the ZX-12r), and I truly believe in the old saying...
What comes around goes around.
He will get his, as G-D as my witness, I belive.
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posted February 04, 2003 09:58 PM
just nuke 'im red.
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posted February 04, 2003 10:05 PM
I have fun over at LAB but frankly I do get tired of the outright hate crap that occurs over there. It is nausiating that this shit goes on and is tolerated at all. And though as Bart said in the end he will get his. The truth is the road between now and then will be littered with some very nice and decent people being picked on, living in fear etc. I'm sorry but in my world I go on the premise that when you see a cock roach you step on it.
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posted February 05, 2003 04:28 AM
*squish*
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worm~hole
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posted February 05, 2003 04:48 AM
Edited By: worm~hole on 5 Feb 2003 04:54
...you know, I keep on reading this "don't forget who taught Saddam and his friends...who armed Saddam and his friends..."
...sure, its like when your good dad taught you responsibility and how to defend yourself or when your sensei or sifu taught you the responsibilties of advanced and painful techniques to effect compliance and defeat those who bullied you, and later you went and abused that powerful knowledge...guess what happend?...you got your assed kicked by your dad or your martial arts teacher...time for the father/teacher named Uncle Sam to kick Saddam's and his cronies' ass...kill 'em all...
...and some people have said, "Well, who made us (the USA) the world's police?"...yeah, right...like you'd rather have Saddam as your Chief of Police...you think you don't like all the rules in your world now....imagine what your world would be like if Saddam or scum like him gained more power and influence?...
...all these idiot-zealots who dance before the cameras and say how their Saddam has helped them...schyah!  ....I wouldn't be surprised if his goofy son rounded up some family members of these jumping fans and told them to jump and praise or else....
...I will stand with Bush and the troops...oil or not, either way there'll be a hefty price to pay whether we sit back and wait and let his shit happen or we conduct preemptive strikes to knock his shit out...so lets just take the fight to these assholes and knock their shit out!!!
I WILL NEVER FORGET WHAT HAPPENED ON 9/11!!!
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posted February 05, 2003 05:43 AM
quote:
If he shows up here, Nuke his ass with an American made bomb with a good Canadian Beer strap to it!! It's a free country, and as such he can form his own board with his other hate monger friends and fill it with hate.
I second that motion.
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redelk
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posted February 05, 2003 06:25 AM
Edited By: redelk on 5 Feb 2003 06:26
As Z and other moderators know, I can not actually "BAN" anyone. That option solely lies in the hands of this site's administrators and rightfully so. I will be the first to admit that some of the actions I've taken as this forum's moderator were not always the best option to take, but I also think that I have learned from those mistakes.
Our country has also made mistakes in the policies they have pursued over the centuries. Human nature being what it is, both I and our country will likely make some more. Still, to have such a skewed view towards a certain group because of their religion is not a mistake or misunderstanding. It is a mindset. I do not hate those of the Islamic faith because the actions of some extremists then I do with Christians and the actions of the extremists within that faith.
OKC is not that far removed from the WTC. Both groups wrapped themselves in their faith as an excuse for their actions. The homicide bombers are just as guilty. There is simply one response that should be given to groups who reveal in the deaths of innocent people... force.
If you try to tell me that Islamic Jehad (sp), Hamas and other such groups just want their own "homeland" and to live in peace, I can not help but look at you as an ignorant fool. Their goal is no different the Hitler's. The total and complete elimination of ALL Jews. PERIOD! Saddam, Osama and the followers of extremist clerics, as well as Christian fundimentalist preachers do not support co-existance. They support the elimination of those that oppose them. For what ever reason.
It amazes me that still today, we have US troops in the Balkins. Why? Do Muslims so quickly forget why we went there in the first place? Do our own citizens forget as well? The limited focus of these protesters, though often humorous in there simpleton thinking, is enough for me to utilize the tools given to me as this forum's moderator. I will introduce them to my version of Whinnie's "tires, matchboxes and diesel fuel" (ANC "tools" of protest).
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posted February 05, 2003 08:12 AM
"America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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posted February 05, 2003 08:26 AM
send him to Bagdad with the rest of the garbage and I will see him there in a few weeks.....he and I can have a discussion, and I will make it brief....nuff said....later fellas Jim
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posted February 05, 2003 08:45 AM
I don't want war either, but wrt the security of our nation, rather than stand with the side that offers nothing but hope that there won't be another 9/11. I'll stand with people like our president who say, "Another 9/11? not today, not tomorrow, not on my watch!"
"The only things that needs to happen for evil to succede is for good men to do nothing (or say nothing)" or something like that....
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posted February 05, 2003 11:17 AM
The way I see it is he has a right to say what ever he wants to say. I did not read anywhere where anyone had to supply the "Stump" to preach from! In other words, he has his rights and you have yours. The only thing I cannot understand nowadays is other than Jessie's remark, why any Black person would hate any Jewish person! Because when I was growing up, any place that was owned by Jews would always hire Black people and if there was a Jewish President, there was a possibility of a Black Vive President.
Why did I say this, because anyone speaking against Jews as a Race are also speaking against Blacks. Look at Hitler! So do what you like, you and he still have rights!
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posted February 05, 2003 11:50 AM
worm~hole, that's actualyl a pretty profound analogy there. i'v been swayed somewhat by the "they put him there" argument myself, but ur post puts that in a whole new perspective. i think that's a very important point that alot of people miss. for my part, thanks for pointing that out.
as to the conflict in general... i have mixed feelings. i detest war. people die, property and nature is destroyed. just think of all teh effort that goes into war, including manufacturing the tools of war. can u imagine how much GOOD that same effort could have done had it been redirected to improving public infrastructure, health care, or education? it's just all such a waste, and inevitably theres no good reason for it. it's just some big cheese shitheads who have decided their amusement & quest for power is more important than 10s or 100s of thousands of people lives. but what i really hate, what it all comes down to, is just how stupid war is. why the fuck do we (humans) waste time, effort, resources, & lives to fight? its just so fuckin stupid.
now before i get lynched, i should explain the other half of the "mixed feelings". i detest war, but that i do believe there are times when you have no choice but to wage it, or to respond to it. i believe the current situation is one of those occasions. had afghanistan & teh middle east in general made a heartfelt & real effort to crack down on terrorism, it never would have come to this. but of course we all know that the countries in general support the practice. when i say "countries", i'm basically talkin about the govt & other ruling groups of course. what the common people support doesnt matter much. seems in most major conflict of this type thru history, the public didnt really support it, but had no power to or were to afraid to do anything about it. either that or, being the stupid plebians they are, they were convined that the cause was just cause of all the propaganda they're fed. i think we have a tendency to say that's their problem cause htey should know better or whatnot, but it's not that simple. i suspect alot of people have no idea just how engulfing totalitarian environments can be. my parents grew up in a communist country, which wasnt as bad as saddams rule, but gettin close. the stuories & decriptions i'v heard fomr them about the old country make my head spin. u have NO access to outside information. all u hear is the govt produced views. well, if u dont here ANYTHING ELSE, ur bound to believe what you do hear. after all, what other option is ther? and this is a big part of what i dislike about war. the people getting killed are not innocent in that they are attacking u or ur troops, but they are innocent in that they are being tricked into doing so. if they honestly knew the truth of the situation, chances are they would be ur friends, or at least neutral, and not ur enemies. but like i said, like it or not theres time where u have to respond to aggression.
but getting back to the second paragraph, i said ther's no good reason/excuse for war. dont take this to mean that the US doesnt have a ride to protect themselves. the "reason" for war isnt in the hands of the US, it's in the hands of those who started it, which is all the terrorist groups, including of course those responsible for the WTC. did they have a valid reason for that? hell no! i dont even think all the people who say the US brought in on themselves will say that. like i said, a few powerhungry, hateful, pathetic excuses for living creatures decided their little game is worth teh price everyone else has to pay. they may not care what happens to them, but there are people on both sides of the fence care about whathappens to themselves or their loved ones.
i tell ya something tho. if i were in charge of north america, i'd just pull out. entirely. iraq, the rest of the middle east, & many other countries around the world keep bitchin about the US. everything is wrong. US exploits everyone. bitch bitch moan moan. bullshit. i say, "make everyone happy". pull out. close the borders completely for all immigration & trade. half the world would be crippled if the US cut all relations with the rest of the world, or at least all countries that were not 100% friendly allies. can u imagine jsut how fast countries would start knockin on the door, beggin on hands & knees to come back? cryin about how their people are dieing for lack of medical supplies etc etc. so? that our problem? no it's ur country, ur people. ur problem. maybe if u put ur resources into medical care instead of ur military, u wouldnt have a country full of sick, starving people.
well thats enough oughta me. its not like anything i'v written is new opinion anyhow. but it's one man's view, and its what i belive. i'm jsut so sick of the whole world constantly fightin with each other for no fuckin reason. live ur life, and just leave everyone else alone. but hell , we cant even do that in our communities, so what's the chance of it working on a worldwide scale? ever been to a town council meeting? multiply that by a few thousand. ick.
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posted February 05, 2003 11:52 AM
Edited By: kcadby on 5 Feb 2003 11:53
I don't understand why...in this day and age we live in...why race is an issue, or more than that...why people "judge people because of they're race"...PERIOD!!!
I guess it will never be a perfect world 
I make it a point NOT to judge (like-DIS-like) ANYONE until I get to know him/her...
Although I DON'T need to meet people like Sadam to KNOW he needs to go down...
Good luck HDL!!!
I hope you can/will ALL come HOME safe...
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posted February 05, 2003 01:54 PM
Kevin, Actually I am a racist. I hate all racial attitudes! I like people inspite of their race, not because of it. Al Sharpton may be Black, but I would not vote him Dog Catcher! Bush may be White, but I sure would not vote him for President!
This Board is fairly neutral. When I am being a jerk, no one states that I am because I am black, it is because of what i said or the way I said it! No more, no less.
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posted February 05, 2003 03:27 PM
I'm no Pastor-Red for sure Vincent...
What you said is exactly what I meant...
I like or dis-like people for who they are...not where they came from (heritage)...
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posted February 05, 2003 03:40 PM
I wonder if the home cheese in question just wants to stir things up. He may be one of those fuckers that just enjoys watching people go apeshit. Seems a couple of items would point to that.
But anyway, I say blast the fucker. Ain't got no room for a baiting mofo.
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