toddw05
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posted November 23, 2007 10:35 PM
drag racing
I have a stock 2004 ZX12R. I was wanting to drag race the bike. Wanting to know all the parts i will need to get. Which are the best parts. Like tires,full exhaust, programmer,air shifter, spockets (tooth size for rear and front) and chain ( and chain guard),and swingarm. That is all I know to get far as for bolt on parts if there is more i would like to know. Should this get the bike in the low 9's.
  
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KZScott
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posted November 24, 2007 05:09 AM
is it going to be an all out drag bike or just something to do on weekends, and still drive on the street a lot too?
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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toddw05
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posted November 24, 2007 06:56 AM
I will ride on the street and race once and awhile on the weekends.
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posted November 24, 2007 07:24 AM
my mine:
take a brock´s or muzzy exhaust !
muzzy air shifter kit ! + change the shift shafts
lower the bike (front + rear)
i don´t know how big and heavy you are ?? would try 17 / 49 ??
mount swingarm extensions 4-7"
try a micheline or shinko tire
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woppi
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posted November 24, 2007 07:26 AM
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you can not build an weekend dragbike in 2 days !!!
you can also modified your clutch !!!!!
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aliveagain
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posted November 24, 2007 11:11 AM
Helmet,gloves and full suit.Oh yeah,shoes that cover the ankle.The only real mod to the bike would be the clutch.Ya can't buy speed,why do you want low 9's? I',m at1426 with a 40 shot of no2 and the quickest I've ever gone was 9.7's.I suck at launching and it shows.I'm also 260 without leathers so that slows me compared to a smaller rider.My advice is to not worry about how quick you are but to go enjoy what you are doing and to improve your times a little at a time.At the last Pro Star race I went to,a guy was racing a 750 automatic and won several heats because he was so consistant.That and it played mind games on the other guy who had to wait 10 seconds before his light went green.Unless you are looking for a particular class where you need a certain time,don't worry and be consistant.
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toddw05
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posted November 24, 2007 07:33 PM
I know a person at the local track and he runs a 12 with all bolt on parts (all motor no nitros) and runs constint 9.0's all day but he can ride.
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toddw05
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posted November 24, 2007 07:36 PM
Where can i get a 8 plus swingarm. New or used.
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aliveagain
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posted November 24, 2007 08:39 PM
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I know a person at the local track and he runs a 12 with all bolt on parts (all motor no nitros) and runs constint 9.0's all day but he can ride.
Whats your experience on the track?If your aquaintance can run 9.0's all day,he's been doing it for awhile.
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KZScott
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posted November 25, 2007 05:15 AM
the cheapest and easiest way to go longer is to put on bolt on swingarm extensions.
mine are 4-9 over adjustable. you will need an extended chain guard (i made mine) , brake line (i used brocks) and chain(get a strong one) to match. if you go long, you will need a good sticky tire. i use a 190 shinko ultra soft R003
get a billet clutch basket as you will be able to get a really hard launch compared to a stock length bike. a drilled hub would help too. keep an eye on the stack height, and make sure the plates arent dry. strap the font end down, it helps even with and extended arm. an air shifter will help if you a lot. i had trouble getting my feet on the pegs in time to shift when i got a good launch. i was geared 17/51.
get out there and have FUN 
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted November 25, 2007 09:03 AM
And if you go with an extended swingarm,don't forget the chain guard. Some tracks may get picky on this.
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KZScott
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posted November 25, 2007 10:42 AM
yup, min thickness is 1/8 inch IIRC and has to be metal (go with aluminum) it has to go to at least as far back as the axle is, i made mine longer cause i didnt want any doubts (and i think it looks cool :P)
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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zxmoose
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posted November 26, 2007 07:40 AM
I HAVE A SET OF EXT'S 150.00 SHIPPED,(3-7 INCH)AND AN EXTRA COMPLETE SET OF WHEELS BLACK WITH A POLISHED LIP(XTRA NICE) A FULL AKROPOVIC SYSTEM,SOME MISC PARTS TOO
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posted December 02, 2007 06:20 AM
Honestly, there's no shortcut to quick times in the quarter mile. I was at tulsa a couple of months ago and saw a slammed stretched and nitroused r1 run some low 11's. Horrible rider. Seat time is gonna make as big a difference as anything will. Lowering and gearing will help a bunch and if your gonna throw any power at it at all get a billet basket. Other then that, learn how to ride it.
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KZScott
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posted December 02, 2007 08:57 AM
yeah, its all about getting used to the bike. get out there and have some fun, practise as much as you can, and watch the ETs slowly drop as you try out subtle changes. the first 60 feet of the race are the most important. get that mastered, and you will be pulling off good numbers 
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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posted December 05, 2007 02:07 PM
toddw05
I have a 2004 zx12.. im 240lbs without leather.
My bike is my street bike and I take it to the track roughly 3-4 times a year.
Now this is what works really well for me. I can change my bike from steet to strip in 1 hr flat.
-Bolt on extensions
-schnitz lowering strap for front end
-adjustable lowering links in the back. Once on leave em, adjust back to street height when done racing.
-sprockets.. down 2 in front (16) up 4 in back (50)
-drag chain (much stronger)
-I run 7inch drag slick mounted on another rim.
-MRE air shifter
Now the bolt on extensions take about 2min to install. Changing sprockets takes the longest, because of the front change. Down 2 teeth in front is too low for street use.
Get yourself a drag racing chain. much stronger than street and you don't want that to break because you'll be leaving harder than on street (lower bike stickier tire).. I put a master link in my street chain and drag chain for easy installation. When put on just clean the link and put silicone over clip for extra safety..
Lowering strap goes on in 1 min, oh ya you will have to buy the front brackets for the strap b/c they won't bolt up to the calipers.
The lowering links in the back are usually a pain to put on but once on they stay there. They adjust from street to strip heigh easily. Note: Use the middle setting for drag, b/c the lowest is too low for a street bike, and the tire will burn a hole in your inner fender.
I played with sprockets and i like this combo. You can leave harder without reving the shit outta the bike.
I run a 7 inch drag slick and this completely eliminates wheel spin... oh ya don't do what I did and test the theory that you can't spin one of those slicks with 8 pounds of air... My bother in law runs a busa with a similar set up and warned me not to try but you know how it goes.....So im sitting on the line staged, feeling a little brave/cocky,, waiting to go, same bike setup I just described.... wound up the bike to 9500rpm, wacked open to the throttle stops and dumped the clutch... Now from what I was told the back tire was off the ground by 3inches. Aparently the bike went up straight, front and back, came back down, bogged, hickuped and finally pulled away... not graceful at all. looked like it was the first time I ever drove a bike... All I know was that it felt like a football player kicked me in the nuts!!!! Do not try!!! I warned you...lol
Some people think I went overboard with the slick and I may have..I bought an rear wheel from ebay. 68.00 to mount my drag tire. Worth every penny.
i might try a Shinko this year a lot of people seem to like them. I finally got my air shifter set up and I did get nos for next year just for play. Hard to be consistant with nos..
I've only raced this bike 3 times and I went 9.75 @ 142mph. But theres lots more ther to be had. I was launching at 6000rpm.
No this part is just opinion... the clutch in the 04 12 is different than the older ones. It oils much better. I do a lot of wheelies and been at the strip with the bike and had no problems. One of those weekends was a test and tune and I made 37 runs that one weekend. If you have any questions don't hesitate to write, and remember this is just what worked soo far for me andf Im still changing stuff. Hope I made a few short cuts for you..
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posted December 05, 2007 03:46 PM
just wanted to point out that i have been told by a few ppl that changing to a slick changes your gearing because the tire is a lot taller. you need to drop 2 teeth on the front just to get back to stock gearing, then go up a bunch on the rear to get "drag" gearing. (i think i read that 16 56 gearing will get you trapping in the top of 6th with a slick) the guy doing this was named Roy i think, NOX knows him IIRC. I cant remember his screen name on here.....
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted December 05, 2007 04:31 PM
a tire profile and size wont vary that much just because its a slick as compared to a DOT race tire....definately not 2 teeth worth on the front....that is like going up 5 or 6 teeeth on the back....that is a HUGE gearing change......I am not saying that would not be the correct gearing for a given bike on a given track, with certain conditions....But I would worry about being consistant....then worry about being fast.....
Gearing is easy...the light and RT isnt.....
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KZScott
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posted December 05, 2007 10:14 PM
remembered the guys name on here "zxboy" (i actually bought my muzzy pipe from him:P) he was running a slick and bars, 2 step, and a lock up (now using a slider) on a stock motor, stock pipe, running 16 56 gearing....
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
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posted December 06, 2007 01:08 AM
my opinion on drag racing is this...and keep in mind I only do it occasionally, and only for fun....work on the RT....get it down, and be consistent......once you can consistently hit good RT's, then start on making the bike faster......this obviously is after you make sure the bike is not going to scatter on the track....IE upgrading the clutch, and basket......
once you are consistant on the tree and doing well...then I would start working on doing what you need to do, to drop the 60ft time...straps and links...maybe extensions, depending on how serious you are about it. Then start with the HP mods, again depending on how serious you want to get.
My best with a completely stock Zx12R was a 1.81 60ft, with a 6.82 1/8th mile, @118 mph....like I said, I am not a drag racer......but I do know, the tree is the key....
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KZScott
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posted December 06, 2007 04:24 PM
I would start out with the extensions and a shinko....its easier to learn how to go quick on something that doesnt want to wheelie as bad IMO. i had a change to try and get used to for just about every race wknd this season(to try and go quicker/faster each time) i had to learn how to drive the bike all over again eack wknd it seemed.
i would get a combo that is proven to go x ET with a normal rider and practise with that setup till u get there. just so you dont have to relearn every time. I am only an ok rider, and i pulled off a 1.59 60ft with my setup. (started out with 2.0s at the first of the season with a few less mods) a pro driver could probly get 1.3s out of my setup, but theres no way in hell i could get a stock length bike to be in the 1.59 range, and i wouldnt be as consistant fighting wheelies....
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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