jaws12r
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posted February 15, 2006 09:43 AM
Head and Cams question
Hi Guys, I just dropped a valve and gotta junk my head and one piston , i have found a used 2001 head but i have a muzzy race cams for 2000 model. Can the cams still be used ?? Pls advise thank you
  
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MadMike
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posted February 15, 2006 09:55 AM
I believe the cam sensor is different... Contact Muzzys they will know for sure...
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park12r
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posted February 15, 2006 10:02 AM
 Edited By: park12r on 15 Feb 2006 10:04
http://www.zx-12r.org/Motorcycle_info/ZX-12specs_files/Parts%20Manual/2000%20ZX12R%20Parts%20List/index.html
http://www.zx-12r.org/Motorcycle_info/ZX-12specs_files/Parts%20Manual/2001%20ZX12R%20Parts%20List/index.html
the parts number are same.but muzzy 00 cams are different from 01 onwards
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jaws12r
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posted February 15, 2006 10:07 AM
i have tried calling them (muzzys) for 2 days but i can't seem to get through to them.
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MadMike
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posted February 15, 2006 11:10 AM
They might be gone to the Show in Indy....
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TRNorBRN6001
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posted February 15, 2006 11:31 AM
Dang, seems to be a common problem.
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moonzx12
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posted February 15, 2006 12:37 PM
i believe 00 and 01 are the same
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posted February 15, 2006 01:14 PM
quote:
They might be gone to the Show in Indy....
Yep. They are gone to Indy.
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ninja12
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posted February 15, 2006 01:41 PM
Cams were the only difference between 00 and 01 heads.
IF you use your cams you will have no problems.
The difference is the position on the pick-up on the exhaust cam.
So yes you can use you muzzy cams in the 01 head.
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jaws12r
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posted February 16, 2006 03:37 AM
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Cams were the only difference between 00 and 01 heads.
IF you use your cams you will have no problems.
The difference is the position on the pick-up on the exhaust cam.
So yes you can use you muzzy cams in the 01 head.
Hi sorry ninja, i dun really get what u mean by the difference is on the position on the pick-up on the exhaust cam can u advise what steps do i need to take if i wanna use the 00 muzzy cams on the 01 head. i emailed muzzy and the reply i got was this 'The cam sensor is located on the exhaust cam and has different timing 00-01. The engine will not run if not indexed properly' . Sorry to trouble but how do i go about indexing the Cams
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MadMike
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posted February 16, 2006 07:01 AM
you know I re-read everything and correct me if I am wrong...
You have a 2000 model bike.
bad head.
2001 head to put on.
Muzzy 2000 cams.....
if that is correct, you can put your cams in a 2001 head and it will work fine! you just need to make sure that you use your 2000 cam sensor that is in your bad head....
everything should work fine...
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park12r
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posted February 16, 2006 07:19 AM
Edited By: park12r on 16 Feb 2006 07:20
thats a good news for you jaws12r
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jaws12r
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posted February 16, 2006 07:33 AM
yes madmike, u are right i got a 2000 with a bad head.sorry but if i could have just change the sensors on them, y is muzzy selling the 00 cams and 01 onwards cams differently cause when i got the muzzy cams then cams do not come with the sensors.
pls advise thanks.
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MadMike
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posted February 16, 2006 09:36 AM
it is how the sensor (on the cam) is cut into the cam the difference betweeen the 00 and 01 is about 180 deg off.
so they offer one for the 00 and one for the 01... that actual part on the cam is in different locations....
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posted February 17, 2006 12:53 PM
IF you are using the same cams that came out the bike that is all you need to do.
The sensor in the head is the same. The angle of the point on the pickup that is bolted to the end of the exhaust cam is different. Example @ tdc the 00 points to 3 on the clock
and the 01 up points to 9. just an example but you get the point.
If you are reusing your cams just shim and ride.
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jaws12r
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posted February 19, 2006 08:45 AM
okie
thanks i will try it out and update thanks
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