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posted September 20, 2005 06:54 AM
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Don't worry about it Jere. I'd give up most of my testicles to get my CBX back. They were only produced for five years.
You know I had a 1980... sad I ever sold it...
I was on ebay the other day.... a pristine 1979 sold for $15,200!!!!
Holy shit... I'm really kicking myself...
   
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posted September 20, 2005 06:57 AM
camaro = redneck + no teeth eh? fuck you.
at least you can take your kids with you while you kick some yuppie corvette ass.
As far as the 12R goes, I'm OK with it - seeing how the 2000/2001 body style looks the best anyways 
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posted September 20, 2005 06:57 AM
Barbie... I was thinking I might buy a brand new '05 and store it away....
Prep it for long term storage... could you imagine pulling it out in 30 years and
giving it to a grandson???
Hell, I never had any kids... what the fuck am I taking about...??? But you get the idea...
Cool huh... I hope someone does that.
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posted September 20, 2005 07:00 AM
now corey... don't get your panties all twisted around the nads... 
I saw over on .org that Epstein alomst ate the big one... holy shit i can't believe
how smashed up that car was... drove him inside the van... and he didn't have one
scratch!!!
One lucky man...!!! Happy he didn't get hurt!
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posted September 20, 2005 08:10 AM
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Barbie... I was thinking I might buy a brand new '05 and store it away....
Prep it for long term storage... could you imagine pulling it out in 30 years and
giving it to a grandson???
Hell, I never had any kids... what the fuck am I taking about...??? But you get the idea...
Cool huh... I hope someone does that.
Yep, that would be most agreeable. Hey! Why don't you do that with a nice Buell?
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posted September 20, 2005 08:27 AM
Ok, you've convinced me... I'll give ya $40 for that cap... it's nice, I like it!!! 
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Outsiderzx12r
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posted September 20, 2005 08:51 AM
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camaro = redneck + no teeth eh? fuck you.
at least you can take your kids with you while you kick some yuppie corvette ass.
Right on.
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slug
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posted September 20, 2005 08:54 AM
no worries with hitting deer in a camaro, those missing teeth are built-in deer whistles
  
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posted September 20, 2005 09:00 AM
You guys are kiing me...
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GreenGlenn
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posted September 20, 2005 10:10 AM
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no worries with hitting deer in a camaro, those missing teeth are built-in deer whistles
You bastard - you owe me a keyboard.
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posted September 20, 2005 11:51 AM
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no worries with hitting deer in a camaro, those missing teeth are built-in deer whistles
You bastard - you owe me a keyboard.
me too.
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Outlaw1
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posted September 20, 2005 06:13 PM
I am sitting here thinking what if the ZX-14 engine can be pumped up to say 1621cc and it will fit in a ZX-12R frame
I would have no problem taking the motor out of ZX-14 for a donor for my ZX-12R
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posted September 20, 2005 06:20 PM
You gonna spend $12k just to get the motor??? then another $2-3K to pump it up?
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Outlaw1
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posted September 20, 2005 06:34 PM
They will be folks that wad up the ZX-14 the same day they ride out of dealership. Their wont be much demand since nobody has one yet for salvage parts. They will be in salvage yards soon.
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Outlaw1
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posted September 20, 2005 06:38 PM
Jere It would be cheaper than a turbo and more reliable. 2500 for engine, 2500 to pump it up, 5000 grand the same price as a turbo. You would have a reliable 250 HP+ ZX-12R put a shot of NOS and possible 300HP
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posted September 20, 2005 06:50 PM
Edited By: trenace on 20 Sep 2005 21:27
Outlaw, it's already extremely stroked. While potentially perhaps room has been left to stroke it further that would be starting to turn it into a tractor, and one ought to reduce rpm and make the gearing taller to go along with that, which largely erases the benefit.
(The fact that this motor is mostly only stroked vs the Twelve, rather than given much more piston area, is the main reason why it makes a reported only 7 hp more. If one builds to equal durability, stroking isn't all that one might intuitively expect, or expect from comparisons of motors that aren't equally durable, i.e., the stroker motor runs to higher piston speeds and accelerations and bearing loads.)
On the other hand, quite likely it can be bored further. i forget what I calculated, but if it were bored the same as a 1290 Twelve, that would wind up something like 1460 cc.
BTW, what's reportedly a good predictor on effect of bore and/or stroke changes on hp is, hp increases according to the 1.65 power of bore, and according to the 0.5 power of stroke (that is to say, the square root), all else being equal.
Just for fun, plugging that into the ZX-14 vs the ZX-12R:
84 mm vs 83 mm bore: worth a 2.0% increase (84/83 raised to the 1.65 power)
61 mm vs 55.4 mm stroke: worth a 4.9% increase (square root of 61/55.4)
Total effect, 7.0% predicted power increase from the nearly 12.8% displacement increase.
However, the reported crank hp is up by only about 4%.
The 3% lower value compared to what might have been predicted is probably due to tuning to obtain the monster low-end claimed for the motor -- what was it, something like 65 ft-lb at a mere 2000 rpm? I don' t know what the stock 12's value is down there but I would guess well under that, perhaps 50 or less.
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posted September 20, 2005 07:38 PM
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just looking at the camaros driving around it's obvious there are 2 prerequisites for owning one.
I'd suspect this had more to do with where you live.
No mullet and I have all my teeth. Granted it's normally parked due to better mileage on the bike, an assload of hp with very little money spent on mods.
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posted September 20, 2005 08:11 PM
I saw where a Camaro on the Barret Jackson auction sold for 4.1 million $$$
Holy Crap!!! I knew muscle cars were going up but PLEASE!!!!
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Ninjaman12R
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posted September 21, 2005 05:18 AM
Oh yeah..............
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no worries with hitting deer in a camaro, those missing teeth are built-in deer whistles
slug, that's funny stuff man!!! LMFAO!!!
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