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posted May 28, 2007 09:33 AM
Lowering...
Anyone else going to lower their 6?
I have in the past, but I think I might keep this one stock.
Not sure if I want to change the geometry...
  
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posted May 28, 2007 07:00 PM
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Anyone else going to lower their 6?
I have in the past, but I think I might keep this one stock.
Not sure if I want to change the geometry...
+1
it'll corner better stock
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posted May 29, 2007 06:17 AM
My problem is when I get the bike weighted down with camping gear and am on tippy toes riding down gravel roads - I would rather have flat feet.
The biggest difference I have noticed between my lowered bike and my stock height bike is that the stock one handles better at low speeds.
That while the stock bike may be too tall to be flat footed it moves around better when you are doing slow corners or parking lot maneuvering.
Which is kind of a weird trade off.
It could be just the difference between the 04 and the 07 though too...
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posted May 29, 2007 10:40 AM
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posted May 29, 2007 10:53 AM
 Edited By: Tool man on 29 May 2007 13:05
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Not sure if I want to change the geometry...
If you all want to lower a sportbike ... then why do you not just buy a cruiser??
4 reasons to buy a cruiser
Lower seat height +1
Less performance +1
Less lean angle +1
Less scary +1
Now if you want to ride a true sportbike then adjust the(stock height) suspension to your weight and riding style and enjoy....period
AND... before you all jump on me and say you're a big man and it does not affect me. I rode many a big dirt bike with TALL suspension and I only have a 32 inch inseam. I had to hang my ass off the seat and put my foot down just like you all should.
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posted May 29, 2007 11:12 AM
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If you all want to lower a sportbike ... then why do you not just buy a cruiser??
4 reasons to buy a cruiser
Lower seat height +1
Less performance +1
Less lean angle +1
Less scary +1
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posted May 29, 2007 12:16 PM
Edited By: girlee on 29 May 2007 13:28
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quote:
Not sure if I want to change the geometry...
If you all want to lower a sportbike ... then why do you not just buy a cruiser??
4 reasons to buy a cruiser
Lower seat height +1
Less performance +1
Less lean angle +1
Less scary +1
Now if you want to ride a true sportbike then adjust the(stock height) suspension to your weight and riding style and enjoy....period
AND... before you all jump on me and say you're a big man and it does not affect me. I rode many a big dirt bike with TALL suspension and I only have a 32 inch inseam. I had
to hang my ass off the seat and put my foot down just like you all should.
What ever ~ you don't park dirt bike in a parking lot line up with other bikes, you are big enough to man handle whatever bike you ride including the road king!
Less scary, less lean angle?
I guess that means big guys should not be on sport bikes either becouse
big guys get :
Less performance +1
Lower max speeds +1
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posted May 29, 2007 12:27 PM
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Anyone else going to lower their 6?
I have in the past, but I think I might keep this one stock.
Not sure if I want to change the geometry...
My 06 is dropped a bit - To be totally honest if it was a track bike only
I would not have dropped it and if can get more track time in I will probably put it back .
As it is I am not at a level that needs the the difference it gives you - yet
I do like the extra moving around ablitly I get when around parking lots etc
The funny part is even with the drop I am still not flat footed any time. With the drop at least now I can lean over to one side and get one foot flat so I back out with just the one.
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posted May 29, 2007 03:51 PM
Girlee - it's your bike, you are the one riding it - so, if you feel more confident with the bike lowered - then that is the bottom line.
IMO
To say that you have to have a "certain body type" to ride a certain bike, is wrong IMO.
When I was at Femmoto 05 one of the instructors on the track - Aaron, didn't have any feelings in his legs after having a bike accident.
His track bike has outriggers on it that hold him up when he slows down and stops.
Makes debating lowering a bike a half inch seem kinda silly doesn't it?
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posted May 29, 2007 04:17 PM
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big guys get :
Less performance +1
Lower max speeds +1
I agree- actually the bigger and heavier guys doget less performance and less max speed on bikes.
Last time a friend and I both had our 600s that are exact out on Homestead, I'd pull away from him in the straights every time and he's 70-80 pounds heavier. On a 600 the weight difference was so obvious.
And my lanky self catches too much wind, when I'm on the track I'd rather be one of those little horse-jockey lookin' type guys thats crawlin' all over the 600 
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posted May 29, 2007 04:35 PM
Edited By: Lucky Lo on 29 May 2007 22:28
I've got the longest legs of the three of us girls and I'm still not completely flat-foot on any of our rides.
Of what we have, the easiest for me to maneuver is the 14 because it's the lowest and balanced so nicely, but it is heavy. The 05' 10 is our tallest and I've always been on tippy-toes and had been dreading the day I would drop her. (I didn't think I would be going so fast though :P) I did learn to sit comfortably to one side flat-foot at stops and the biggest problem has been gravel and uneven surfaces. The 6R falls somewhere between, it's light, and I haven't had any problems yet...
A lot of the guys I see and ride with are shorter than me, at least in leg length and I watch how they overcome their height issues. Their biggest advantage is upper body strength which most women lack.
Maybe we just need to buff up Lil' Sisters 
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posted May 30, 2007 07:16 AM
"Maybe we just need to buff up Lil' Sisters "
Working on it LO I was up to 110 on the bench but I have been out of the gym should be there or above by Femmoto !
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posted July 03, 2007 05:02 AM
Edited By: GUNNER on 3 Jul 2007 06:06
OLD thread, but Gene and I spoke about this situation before. I'm with him completely. Lowering a sportbike isn't a good thing. In fact it's bad Ju Ju! It's mostly in your head that you feel like both feet need to touch. ALL you need to do is think 1 second faster that the bike can fall over and slide your ass to one side of the seat or the other. For you girls riding dirt bikes this should come NATURAL! Think of your foot touching the ground as a SMART kick stand! It's has the brains to deploy and retract in an instant. Just deploy it and lean the bike over slightly to meet the ground with the bottom of your boot.. SIMPLE CONCEPT 
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posted July 04, 2007 09:25 AM
When I lowered my bike it was simple economics.
It was 50 bucks for a set of Muzzy lowering links or over a grand for a side of plastic.
It is a bit about letting go of your ego and saying that you need help - nothing wrong with saying you need help, they make lowering links to help you out with that problem.
No one should be MADE to ride a bike they are not comfortable on.
It's their bike - they should be wanting to ride it.
If you have a set of rules for yourself - you won't lower a bike than go ride by your rules, don't force your rules on somebody else.
My Bike, my rights.
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posted July 04, 2007 09:28 AM
Girlee - It must be hard to get toolman to relate to being your size and how that affects what you can and can't do... maybe if you get him to think back, way back - to like when he was 9 - then try to remember how certain things were more difficult for him to do...
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posted July 04, 2007 10:03 AM
BS! I don't touch both feet on either of my bikes.... I'll bet your legs are way longer than mine PK. Compressing the shock factors in BUT they make light weight springs to make all those factors equal for lighter weight riders..
We struggle to help you girls understand the mechanics of why things are made the way they are.
You are right in the end PK it's your bike and your rights, BUT don't nut sack us for trying to continute to get you to see the way
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posted July 05, 2007 09:17 AM
I lowered my 04 636 and road it to Laguna and back.
Having both feet on the ground helped with the long days of riding on unfamiliar roads with 60 plus pounds of gear on the bike.
When I did a track day with the bike - I put it back to the stock settings.
Lowering the bike with the Muzzy dog bones is a temporary modification that can be adjusted back up to stock with some time and effort.
It is not a permanent modification that diminishes the ride-ability of the bike (like painting a 600 pink).
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posted July 05, 2007 10:39 AM
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Girlee - It must be hard to get toolman to relate to being your size and how that affects what you can and can't do... maybe if you get him to think back, way back - to like when he was 9 - then try to remember how certain things were more difficult for him to do...
Try younger than that !
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posted July 05, 2007 10:41 AM
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I lowered my 04 636 and road it to Laguna and back.
Having both feet on the ground helped with the long days of riding on unfamiliar roads with 60 plus pounds of gear on the bike.
When I did a track day with the bike - I put it back to the stock settings.
Lowering the bike with the Muzzy dog bones is a temporary modification that can be adjusted back up to stock with some time and effort.
It is not a permanent modification that diminishes the ride-ability of the bike (like painting a 600 pink).
ACCCK no pink- Actually I have said the same thing to Gene When we start hitting the track again August / September I would be happy to raise it up
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posted July 05, 2007 02:11 PM
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Lowering the bike with the Muzzy dog bones is a temporary modification that can be adjusted back up to stock with some time and effort.
Actually PK try some turnbuckle style adjustable links and moving the bike up and down will be much easier. Supporting the frame while the links are lose is a great way to drop a bike..
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posted July 06, 2007 07:33 AM
So - do we agree?
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posted July 08, 2007 12:01 PM
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Girlee - It must be hard to get toolman to relate to being your size and how that affects what you can and can't do... maybe if you get him to think back, way back - to like when he was 9 - then try to remember how certain things were more difficult for him to do...
Not really... I was her size at nine, maybe bigger :d
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posted July 08, 2007 04:08 PM
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So - do we agree?
NOT really, but I know when there's no reasoning with someone so I leave it at ......eh? OK
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