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posted April 19, 2009 11:32 AM
No lemon law here --
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fish_antlers
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posted April 19, 2009 02:21 PM
has nothing to do with lemon law.... basic contract law... dealer sold him a brand new bike, not a rebuilt one - his damages are very straight forward, Canook or not...
I would imagine that the longer kawi and the dealer take to make good and provide him with either a full refund or a brand new machine, the stronger his case for even more damages grows.
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posted April 20, 2009 09:11 AM
sorry to hear that steve,,,i was thinking on buying the connie,,my fjr has 62k,,my zx14 runs great,,13k,,i am thiniking about the bmw k1300gt
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posted April 20, 2009 11:16 AM
Hey Steve,
Good luck with Kawi.
My dealer had a real fight on their hands to get my crate damage repaired on my brand new bike. I took it that way as the dealer said they would back it up.
I got all new parts after 6 months , but kawi would not budge on the exposed scratched frame, stating the dealer shpuld rattle can it... 
The dealer eventually coughed up $400 of their own money after I provided bodyshop estimates with the plastic removed... my labour to strip it...
I never bothered.
Basically I would hound them every week, and consider a lawyer, cause Kawi is hoping you will give up, give in or forget about it...the season will pass if you don't hound em.
The rep was a real dick........
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posted April 20, 2009 01:06 PM
 Edited By: NinjaofDoom on 20 Apr 2009 21:06
As much as im pulling for ya, I am another who Kawi has screwed over. I had a 12R that had been rebuilt under warranty (floated a valve in the 3rd cylinder...Boom.) prior to me purchasing it. I felt comfortable because the warranty was still in effect. 4k miles after i bought it, the EXACT same thing happened, to the EXACT same cylinder. When i sent it up to them and said wtf, the rep was a dick and although they couldnt determine what caused it (due to the extent of the dmg), they decided it was from me 'overreving it'. Never did that once. Im surprised at myself for buying the 14, but i accepted no warranty as i know it is money in the toilet.
As i said, i hope they come through for you!
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posted April 20, 2009 01:09 PM
Wow, makes you think twice about buying a new Kawasaki, huh?
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posted April 20, 2009 01:14 PM
I agree new bike or see ya!!!!!!and the biggest smear campaign on all motorcycle forums...thats how i would start.Ya driving the bike home from dealership and it goes belly up on ya.......New Bike......will you be getting paid for loss of use,loss of warranty,loss of faith....Nope.Not if the man can help it.
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posted April 20, 2009 01:32 PM
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No lemon law here --
yet another reason not to live in Quebec. ROTFL
At least ya have to 14 to fall back on, not to mention the C6???
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posted April 20, 2009 01:32 PM
Wow - 
and I thought having a bike go in a few times for the same minor oil leak was reason to ditch that junkie bish of mine, that was nothing compared to this
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posted April 20, 2009 02:41 PM
status?
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posted April 20, 2009 08:35 PM
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has nothing to do with lemon law.... basic contract law... dealer sold him a brand new bike, not a rebuilt one - his damages are very straight forward, Canook or not...
I would imagine that the longer kawi and the dealer take to make good and provide him with either a full refund or a brand new machine, the stronger his case for even more damages grows.
Dude, I sue companies on a regular basis. Trust me, this isn't a fight that's worth fighting. I'm not a lawyer, but I do know an easy case when I see one, and this isn't that case. It will take years to hit the courts and I will be out a bike. I will likely win, but at what final cost? You ever try fast tracking a 15K bike purchase/warranty case though the courts? Good fucking luck. Fortunately, the dealer will take care of this and it seems as if I'll be getting that new bike. Kawasaki won't do squat, but we believe we have found a solution that will get me a new bike. They (Kawasaki) are notoriously shitty for things like this. I could fight and likely win, and buy another bike in the meantime, but it would still cost me $$$ to sue them. I have a better solution that will work!
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posted April 20, 2009 08:48 PM
Edited By: dubious on 21 Apr 2009 04:49
small claims court works well for me...LOL
Glad to hear yopur getting it resolved though Steve.
My dealer ate the profit on my bike thanks to Kawi...
Felt sorry for them, but that is their business with Kawi...
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posted April 20, 2009 09:17 PM
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status?
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posted April 20, 2009 10:34 PM
I feel for you , new bikes are like new members of the family .
hope your dealer sorts it out .
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posted April 20, 2009 10:51 PM
so after 100 posts I am now tagged as " expert class " .
Does this mean I will ride like Smoking , repair like Dubious and
think like Pissear ?Great bike , cant ride to save my life , but the
adrenalin rushes are awesome .
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posted April 21, 2009 02:22 AM
Edited By: The Pope on 21 Apr 2009 10:23
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so after 100 posts I am now tagged as " expert class " .
Does this mean I will ride like Smoking , repair like Dubious and
think like Pissear ?
Nope! It just means that your not riding your bike enough!!!!!
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posted April 21, 2009 04:46 AM
We only have one meeting a month and the next track is a four hour drive .
To make it worse , i havent had a drivers liscence for 18 months , with 6 still to go !
So realy all I do is dream and plug away on this forum .
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posted April 21, 2009 06:47 AM
Good deal Steve! All that the dealer has to do is give you a new one and demo this one. It seems that Kwak has a demo program, at least according to the owner survey I just filled out.
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1badzx12r
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posted April 21, 2009 10:19 AM
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Their legal obligation (according to them) is to repair it under warranty, not replace it. .
think your somebody special .. thats been the policy forever with all manufukkers
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posted April 21, 2009 10:24 AM
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has nothing to do with lemon law.... basic contract law... dealer sold him a brand new bike, not a rebuilt one - his damages are very straight forward, Canook or not...
I would imagine that the longer kawi and the dealer take to make good and provide him with either a full refund or a brand new machine, the stronger his case for even more damages grows.
Dude, I sue companies on a regular basis. Trust me, this isn't a fight that's worth fighting. I'm not a lawyer, but I do know an easy case when I see one, and this isn't that case. It will take years to hit the courts and I will be out a bike. I will likely win, but at what final cost? You ever try fast tracking a 15K bike purchase/warranty case though the courts? Good fucking luck. Fortunately, the dealer will take care of this and it seems as if I'll be getting that new bike. Kawasaki won't do squat, but we believe we have found a solution that will get me a new bike. They (Kawasaki) are notoriously shitty for things like this. I could fight and likely win, and buy another bike in the meantime, but it would still cost me $$$ to sue them. I have a better solution that will work!
i see you know how it works and how KHI is .. good luck .. but what i would have done is cancel the check if it was the same day purchase to problem ....and told them heres your bike ..
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posted April 21, 2009 05:09 PM
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In Nevada there is a buyers remorse law, you just may have one too. With only one mile on it and not titled, they could say it was a test drive and just give you another one. They could just say the sale fell through.
does this law also cover legalized prostitution in vegas???
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posted April 21, 2009 07:44 PM
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Their legal obligation (according to them) is to repair it under warranty, not replace it. .
think your somebody special .. thats been the policy forever with all manufukkers
In a Good Mood today? You were a little tuff on him and on the map thread.. " Who Cares"
take a Xanix... :-) what if it was Your new bike? Maybe he did not know this is " The Way "most Dealers deal with warranty issues.
The local Kaw dealer here said if he had Not changed the title, he would give you a new bike. But this is just one Dealer.
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posted April 21, 2009 08:16 PM
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In Nevada there is a buyers remorse law, you just may have one too. With only one mile on it and not titled, they could say it was a test drive and just give you another one. They could just say the sale fell through.
does this law also cover legalized prostitution in vegas???
One could only hope. I have a feeling it wouldn't go over big.
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posted April 22, 2009 03:51 AM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 22 Apr 2009 11:52
The local Kaw dealer here said if he had Not changed the title, he would give you a new bike. But this is just one Dealer.
yeah they SAY alot of shitt ... but he don't need SAID he needs DO .. catch 22 in this area .. when you purchase a bike the 1st papers you sign is a title application and your lieing dealer knows this...
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posted April 22, 2009 04:08 AM
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In a Good Mood today? You were a little tuff on him and on the map thread.. " Who Cares"
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=46267&set_time=
you wanted 7 more pages of the same BS
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