TedG
Moderator
Posts: 8222
|
posted May 05, 2008 03:26 PM
 Edited By: TedG on 6 May 2008 09:24
Latest update on PR2s
Well it seems that the PR2 rear is worn out after about 6000 miles. The funny part is the front is like new and the bike stills handles beautifully, So well in fact that I have to crank up the rear rebound because of the higher speeds.
So even though the rear didn't seem to last any longer than the Bridgestone the handling has stayed very good and it looks like I will go through 2 rears to one front that is a good cost savings. One also has to remember that the roads here are covered with gravel and a lot more corners were taken riding straight up instead of full tilt. I ordered another rear today and we will see.
____________
Ted
2000 Green ZX12 sold
The fast color!!
Green 2005 ZX10R
2009 Concours Black ABS
  
|
oncourse
Expert Class
I hate flies!!!
Posts: 467
|
posted May 05, 2008 03:35 PM
That sounds like great milage! What do they run?
Rob
____________
True intellegence is not measured by your degrees.
04 klr 250 Lots of mods and 70 MPG!!
08 Connie 2 bros. Carbon. Helibars. Flies out, PC3!!!
2003 kx 500 SOLD
2004 KX 500 In service now, whata BEAST!
|
TedG
Moderator
Posts: 8222
|
posted May 05, 2008 03:43 PM
I get a discount at the local Kwak shop an I make a point to buy from them. I am not really sure what I paid because I bought new brake pads, synthetic oil and filter, and the tire. And the total was $350ish.
____________
Ted
2000 Green ZX12 sold
The fast color!!
Green 2005 ZX10R
2009 Concours Black ABS
|
FASTESTbusaAROUND
Needs a life
I eat Fish...
Posts: 7889
|
posted May 05, 2008 05:30 PM
Edited By: FASTESTbusaAROUND on 5 May 2008 18:31
If you had the flies out, you'd be lucky to see 4Kmiles on the rears.. 
I got 2200 miles on Bridgestones on my ZX...
____________
FYYFF!!!
|
TedG
Moderator
Posts: 8222
|
posted May 05, 2008 07:05 PM
2200? Shit that would be a record on my 10. I have gone through a set in 1300, The center of the tires were almost like new. I damn near went through a set of brake pads in 2200. Oh yeah that was with no track days. Come to think of it the rears pads were gone in 1600ish. I love those rear brakes.
____________
Ted
2000 Green ZX12 sold
The fast color!!
Green 2005 ZX10R
2009 Concours Black ABS
|
wormgear
Expert Class
Posts: 339
|
posted May 05, 2008 09:09 PM
Just over 7k on mine, still handle great and I'm at the rear wear bar. Lost of hwy droning but a fair amount of hard running too (with flies out). My front still looks almost new too (ain't that neat) and I expect it may go 2x the rear. My stockers handled like shit at 3k rear was showing cord at 4k and the front was trashed.
____________
GodDamnit there's always such a big temptation to be good, to be good! (Tom Waits)
|
oncourse
Expert Class
I hate flies!!!
Posts: 467
|
posted May 06, 2008 02:43 AM
What is the exact name for these tires? I was trying to look them up. There was pilot road 2, pilot power 2.
Just doing some research and need a little help here....
Rob
____________
True intellegence is not measured by your degrees.
04 klr 250 Lots of mods and 70 MPG!!
08 Connie 2 bros. Carbon. Helibars. Flies out, PC3!!!
2003 kx 500 SOLD
2004 KX 500 In service now, whata BEAST!
|
TedG
Moderator
Posts: 8222
|
posted May 06, 2008 08:01 AM
Edited By: TedG on 6 May 2008 09:25
PR2, Pilot Road 2. They are the new dual compound Michelin Sport touring tire. Test have shown that they have the best wet traction of any tire tested on a Sport Tourer. The Bridgestones have crap wet traction, the front wears enough after 2k miles to severely effect handling. Standard Bridgestone junk. With the Michelins, not only was handling improved over new Bridgestones, but remains as good as new after 6k miles.
I just fixed the title, don't mind me I am a fucking idiot. PS2s sheesh.
____________
Ted
2000 Green ZX12 sold
The fast color!!
Green 2005 ZX10R
2009 Concours Black ABS
|
oncourse
Expert Class
I hate flies!!!
Posts: 467
|
posted May 06, 2008 03:40 PM
Ted,
If wet weather was not an isuue (I am only probably putting on 1-2k a year in nice weather) is there a better michelin option?
Thanks,
Rob
____________
True intellegence is not measured by your degrees.
04 klr 250 Lots of mods and 70 MPG!!
08 Connie 2 bros. Carbon. Helibars. Flies out, PC3!!!
2003 kx 500 SOLD
2004 KX 500 In service now, whata BEAST!
|
oncourse
Expert Class
I hate flies!!!
Posts: 467
|
posted May 06, 2008 04:11 PM
I just checked michelins web site and the net, seems like pilot power 2ct's would rock for me... It will be a while before I even wear the stockers out, but I may not wait untill they are worn out to get something that can really do the moves....
Rob
____________
True intellegence is not measured by your degrees.
04 klr 250 Lots of mods and 70 MPG!!
08 Connie 2 bros. Carbon. Helibars. Flies out, PC3!!!
2003 kx 500 SOLD
2004 KX 500 In service now, whata BEAST!
|
TedG
Moderator
Posts: 8222
|
posted May 06, 2008 04:45 PM
Here is the deal, I run Pilot Power 2cts on my ZX10 and they wear pretty quickly. The Pilot Roads will wear much better and still give you plenty of grip with the added bonus of if you do get caught in wet weather the things have awesome grip. Remember the bike is heavy and it puts much more pressure on the tires.
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=19&TID=28726&set_time=
Look at the rear tire in those pictures, that is after only about 800 miles.
____________
Ted
2000 Green ZX12 sold
The fast color!!
Green 2005 ZX10R
2009 Concours Black ABS
|
oncourse
Expert Class
I hate flies!!!
Posts: 467
|
posted May 06, 2008 05:21 PM
How about pilot sports? Sounds like might be the best compromise for me? Rain, if I would ever accounter it would be possibly 1 day a year, Just love the idea of dry grip...
Thanks Ted,
Rob
____________
True intellegence is not measured by your degrees.
04 klr 250 Lots of mods and 70 MPG!!
08 Connie 2 bros. Carbon. Helibars. Flies out, PC3!!!
2003 kx 500 SOLD
2004 KX 500 In service now, whata BEAST!
|
TedG
Moderator
Posts: 8222
|
posted May 06, 2008 06:25 PM
I don't understand the need for compromise, The thing can maintain sport bike corner speeds with the pegs dragging on the ground with the PR2s. And wear quite well. The PR2s have a nice soft compound on the sides. Probably as soft as the sports.
____________
Ted
2000 Green ZX12 sold
The fast color!!
Green 2005 ZX10R
2009 Concours Black ABS
|
FASTESTbusaAROUND
Needs a life
I eat Fish...
Posts: 7889
|
posted May 06, 2008 06:45 PM
PP's aren't recommended for this bike...they're designed for sport bikes with less weight. PR2's are the way to go and offer the best wet handling of all. Why would you even consider not using them over the Pilot Sport's...(an old and about to be discontinued tire)?
I'm not sure you can even buy them in North America anymore -- they were replaced by the PP's.
The PR2's have excellent dry grip and truthfully, though I hate the Bridgestones, they stick to the road well, so imagine a much better grip on wet and dry...they're called the PR2's!
Don't buy the Sports or the Power's - they're just not made or even recommended for big heavy shaft drive ST bikes. That's why they make PR2's!
____________
FYYFF!!!
|
gpz1100
Expert Class
Posts: 147
|
posted May 06, 2008 09:21 PM
The pr2's have not officially been qualified by michelin for use on the c14. However, enough people have used them with relatively good results.
The michelin rep I spoke with some weeks back said they haven't tested them on the c14 yet, thus they can't recommend them for it. The feedback on the forums says otherwise though.
I have a set on the bike and another set in the box just in case 
|
TedG
Moderator
Posts: 8222
|
posted May 07, 2008 08:43 AM
quote:
The pr2's have not officially been qualified by michelin for use on the c14. However, enough people have used them with relatively good results.
The michelin rep I spoke with some weeks back said they haven't tested them on the c14 yet, thus they can't recommend them for it. The feedback on the forums says otherwise though.
I have a set on the bike and another set in the box just in case
Maybe Michelin can't recommend them, but they are so much better then the BSs and I have worn through the rear, so at least we know they won't do anything bad.
____________
Ted
2000 Green ZX12 sold
The fast color!!
Green 2005 ZX10R
2009 Concours Black ABS
|
TedG
Moderator
Posts: 8222
|
posted May 09, 2008 06:42 PM
I just picked up another rear and I am almost positive they added more rubber and deepened the tread.
____________
Ted
2000 Green ZX12 sold
The fast color!!
Green 2005 ZX10R
2009 Concours Black ABS
|
wormgear
Expert Class
Posts: 339
|
posted May 10, 2008 06:54 AM
quote:
I just picked up another rear and I am almost positive they added more rubber and deepened the tread.
Any chance of measuring the depth before you wear into them much?
I have a new set here that I bought a few months ago.
____________
GodDamnit there's always such a big temptation to be good, to be good! (Tom Waits)
|
gpz1100
Expert Class
Posts: 147
|
posted May 10, 2008 06:56 AM
I have a new set in the basement and a set on the bike with about 1500 miles. I'll measure both later when I get a chance. In fact, since I don't have a depth gauge, i'll just take a pic with a penny. The new set came a few weeks ago from dennis krook.
|
bbirdxx2000
Expert Class
Posts: 147
|
posted May 10, 2008 01:48 PM
quote:
quote:
I just picked up another rear and I am almost positive they added more rubber and deepened the tread.
Any chance of measuring the depth before you wear into them much?
I have a new set here that I bought a few months ago.
I just put on a new set on my 06 ZX-14, i did measure the tread depth . I use the valve stems as a referance point
Front Tire 4 MM
Rear Tire 6.5 MM
____________
9.96 @ 143 stock with flies removed
|
wormgear
Expert Class
Posts: 339
|
posted June 17, 2008 07:51 PM
I finally wore out my first set of PR2’s. Ran the rear down to just before the cord was showing and got 10,000 miles out of them. Very happy with that considering I had cord showing on the rear at 4300 on the stockers. Plus these tires handled and gripped very well for their entire life. Didn’t really have to change the front at this point but I did because I finally got that slightly bent rim fixed. Smooth as silk at 140 + again and no more shaking with high speed braking. The PR2’s are fantastic tires and IMO the ones to beat.
____________
GodDamnit there's always such a big temptation to be good, to be good! (Tom Waits)
|
Hells Dark Lord
Needs a life
living life, and loving it.
Posts: 7981
|
posted June 18, 2008 03:13 AM
For those of you looking at the Pilot Road 2's I did a full write up on a set on a ZX12R. Its over in the ZX12R section....the PR2's have been a really good tire, I have 2300 miles on them on that bike and they dont show signs of any wearing issues.....
here is the link:
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=1&TID=36577&set_time=
____________
When in doubt, lean farther and go faster....
|
|
|
HOME
NEW TOPIC