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posted December 12, 2007 09:30 PM
Cmon Ted...are you up for it or not?
Ihave to admit, I have been popping over to the "other" site to see whats up. But cmon, Ted, asking those dudes about cold weather riding, and not even bringing it up here first?WTF?...I guess I should go there first every day and check this site once every 2 weeks?..I ride all year round for the last ten years and Im going to post up THERE?
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posted December 13, 2007 10:48 AM
...where's "there"?
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posted December 13, 2007 10:50 AM
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Ihave to admit, I have been popping over to the "other" site to see whats up. But cmon, Ted, asking those dudes about cold weather riding, and not even bringing it up here first?WTF?...I guess I should go there first every day and check this site once every 2 weeks?..I ride all year round for the last ten years and Im going to post up THERE?
The only reason I posted over there is those guy are die hards(for the most part). On the other hand we are a bunch of pussies that run and hide when the weather gets cold (present company excluded). Hence the posting over there. 
So that being said, what in your opinion is the warmest LEATHER riding jacket?
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posted December 14, 2007 05:28 AM
Ted if you want warm, go with textile, not leather...I havent found a warm leather yet. MY Tour Master Flex jacket rocks, I am going to match them with the pants here in a few weeks. I can ride in 45 degree weather with a tshit and a sweat shirt and be good for a couple of hundred miles....
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posted December 14, 2007 08:21 PM
Im not sure why you want leather...I have found that leather requires you to layer WAY past any logical expectation of comfort in movement., in addition you kill the jacket by having it dry out. Lets not even go into the fact that a black leather will be white with salt quickly...further damaging the leather. Knock yourself out and go with leather...OR as HDL suggested, be smart and go textile, I wear a cortech, it has armor and is nearly waterproof. It also cleans easily and affords comfort in movement. Experience is the best instructor...you want leather, go with it. Another critical aspect of riding in the cold is YOUR personal pussy factor. Its not how cold it is...its how long youre out there. If anyone tells you they are riding all day in 5degf weather ..they are riding a goldwing and wearing an electric suit that doesnt allow them to turn their head properly..not my cup of tea. I have found that I can ride for an hour or so in temps all the way down to sub zero , moving at 80mph+...I wear leather chaps, jeans, thermal shirt and my cortech....the time out there is KEY. I need to be able to move around, I cant enjoy riding if I feel smothered. The last consideration is gloves,I own electric and all my bikes have been wired for them...but I MAY use them once or twice a year. I wear any number of EXCELLENT ski gloves most of the time. Now let me ask YOU a question...which PITCHFORK is the best for shoveling sand?
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posted December 14, 2007 09:31 PM
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The only reason I was thinking leather is I thought it would be better than textile. I have a Tourmaster flex and it is pretty warm. The other reason is abraision resistance. But it isn't necessary. I also don't do black leather, too bikerish. So with leather out, what is the warmest jacket out there?
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posted December 14, 2007 10:24 PM
....modern textile, close weave or open weave with proper armor protection works well...I've crashed in both leather and heavy textile...air-mesh-type open weave textile, no less...both offered the desired abrasion protection for my dermis 
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posted December 14, 2007 10:47 PM
For me, the Cortech ADX works the best. If some one stole it, Id buy another one immediately. For you..What kind of time are you looking to spend out in the wind at below 30/20degf?..Are you commuting like myself, or are you thinking about cross country torture?
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posted December 14, 2007 10:50 PM
By the way, I dont usually use the emoticons....Just pretend theres a smilee after all my posts....just razzin ya.
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posted December 15, 2007 12:47 PM
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Here is the deal with me: About a month after the really cold weather sets in, I start having motorcycle withdrawals and start thinking I want to ride. BUT here in the mornings from now till March the morning temps are usually in the teens. And by the time February hits I am climbing the walls wanting to ride. Now with the C14 I can see myself commuting once in a while and then taking a ride to warmer parts.
I mentioned pussies in my first post, and I am the biggest pussy here when it comes to cold. I fuckin hate it. I hate skiing (although I am pretty good at it) because I spend the day freezing to death.
So all that being said, if I had a super warm jacket and gloves I could commute. I think for any kind of a long trip, heated gear is probably in order and with that Flex jacket which can be turned into a mesh(removable outer panels) or a waterproof or a fairly warm waterproof jacket I could actually take a trip to warmer parts.
So back to the commute, I don't want to go to work and have to fiddle with all that gear, just remove a jacket, helmet and be good to go.
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posted December 15, 2007 01:40 PM
Has anyone noticed that posts with no avatar take on the avatar of the previous poster?
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posted December 15, 2007 03:59 PM
hey Ted I have the same jacket, the Tour Master Flex, and I found if I take the quilted liner out of it, and use my field jacket liner inside of it, it rocks, and keeps me nice and toasty warm. You can get a field jacket liner at any army surplus store out there, for probably 10-20 dollars. They work good under alot of jackets to keep ya warm.....
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posted December 15, 2007 07:35 PM
It does all come down to personal tolerance. It is so much more convenient for parking where I work...no matter what ..I ride in. Im sure if I had a reserved parking spot, Id only ride in half the time. As hdl mentions above, that setup is great. How much time do you plan to be out in the elements? Man, I tell you, Id have to be driving cross country to use all that electric stuff, to much of a pain to plug in and undress and shit. One other thing, I would not call most of my experience winter riding "warm and toasty", Im generally happy to get where Im going in single digit temps...
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posted December 15, 2007 07:36 PM
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hey Ted I have the same jacket, the Tour Master Flex, and I found if I take the quilted liner out of it, and use my field jacket liner inside of it, it rocks, and keeps me nice and toasty warm. You can get a field jacket liner at any army surplus store out there, for probably 10-20 dollars. They work good under alot of jackets to keep ya warm.....
I will take a run to the the local surplus store. What exactly should I look for?
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posted December 16, 2007 06:09 AM
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But cmon, Ted, asking those dudes about cold weather riding, and not even bringing it up here first?WTF?...I guess I should go there first every day and check this site once every 2 weeks?..I ride all year round for the last ten years and Im going to post up THERE?
That may be because if you look around many here post a lot and hardly ride. I'm amazed at how little chit-chat about rides goes on, and how few pics of rides and such get posted on other forums compared to here. I try to break the ice and post up ride pics around some of the Bikeland forums. Plus i visit this Concourse forum - you guys talk about riding and leaning and tires wearing on the sides and such 
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posted December 16, 2007 11:05 AM
Also the C14 is a new type of bike for us. Most of us are sport bikers that don't do long rides. The other board is based soley on the Concours and sport tourning and started from a huge base of Concours 10 riders. So they know about all the gear. We are more into mods and techincal stuff. Eventually the gearhead types over there will migrate over here and post on both.
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posted December 16, 2007 03:14 PM
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hey Ted I have the same jacket, the Tour Master Flex, and I found if I take the quilted liner out of it, and use my field jacket liner inside of it, it rocks, and keeps me nice and toasty warm. You can get a field jacket liner at any army surplus store out there, for probably 10-20 dollars. They work good under alot of jackets to keep ya warm.....
I will take a run to the the local surplus store. What exactly should I look for?
they are a green quilted material...just ask anyone in there for a field jacket liner, and you will be good, if you want to make it really cool, put a zipper in it in the front...I havent found the need for it though.
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posted December 16, 2007 04:57 PM
Steve, I was just razzin Ted. I agree that here there havent been many posts about rides ect, I just got mine, so anything more than daily commuting is off my agenda till march or april. Ted, I agree with you, this bike is a new type for me as well. I used my sportbikes as tourers and Im adjusting to the phenominal comfort level of the conny. I reread my post and the tone WAS a bit dicey. I also read quite a bit on the other site for the very same reasons you mention above and opened a thread there recently....with some interesting response...I go a little stir-crazy during this season and I guess I try to stir the shit a bit.
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posted December 16, 2007 05:06 PM
I commute to work every day (Modesto to Stockton) and it does get a bit chilly (30 deg on thurs.). I have a Cortech gx air which has both textile and leather, I put on my school jacket (teacher) and a sweatshirt, frank thomas gloves and a Nolan n-com with the bluetooth with my MP3 plugged in and down below I have some snow board pants, BIB, over my jeans and I am a happy camper, nice and toasty and I plan to ride every work day throughout the year. 5000 on my C-14 and she just gets better everyday.
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posted December 16, 2007 05:06 PM
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nabrxx, I took absolutely no offence to your tone or words, in fact I smiled when I read it. You were right. My only advice is if you are going to razz me, put some meat into it and don't pussyfoot around.
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posted December 16, 2007 05:25 PM
Garvin makes a good point, snowboard pants are probably a good idea. I would like something that has full length zippers that you wear over your regular pants.
I want to ride, (went for a short 50 mile jaunt just a few minutes ago) but I want it to be bearable.
I did get the Kawasaki accessory windscreen and it does afford better protection. My feet and legs get cold because mine doesnt give off enough heat. But there is not enough hand protection so heated gloves may be a necessity. I have never tried heated grips and it seems to me hey would not work all that well.
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posted December 16, 2007 08:14 PM
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But cmon, Ted, asking those dudes about cold weather riding, and not even bringing it up here first?WTF?...I guess I should go there first every day and check this site once every 2 weeks?..I ride all year round for the last ten years and Im going to post up THERE?
That may be because if you look around many here post a lot and hardly ride. I'm amazed at how little chit-chat about rides goes on, and how few pics of rides and such get posted on other forums compared to here. I try to break the ice and post up ride pics around some of the Bikeland forums. Plus i visit this Concourse forum - you guys talk about riding and leaning and tires wearing on the sides and such
....I've mentioned it before: its a social club for 'chatting' when we're not riding...but its all good....that's part of who we are...one beeeeg family and we can hardly wait to share our excitement 
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posted December 16, 2007 08:15 PM
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....I've mentioned it before: its a social club for 'chatting' when we're not riding...but its all good....that's part of who we are...one beeeeg family and we can hardly wait to share our excitement
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I agree... and a social club for those in bad weather too :P
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posted December 16, 2007 08:54 PM
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But cmon, Ted, asking those dudes about cold weather riding, and not even bringing it up here first?WTF?...I guess I should go there first every day and check this site once every 2 weeks?..I ride all year round for the last ten years and Im going to post up THERE?
That may be because if you look around many here post a lot and hardly ride. I'm amazed at how little chit-chat about rides goes on, and how few pics of rides and such get posted on other forums compared to here. I try to break the ice and post up ride pics around some of the Bikeland forums. Plus i visit this Concourse forum - you guys talk about riding and leaning and tires wearing on the sides and such
Hardly ride?? I bought the thing in July and before the bad weather set in I put 12000 miles on the thing, and still rode my 10 also. I commuted almost every day until it snowed.
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posted December 17, 2007 02:30 AM
12000?.....damn.....this bike does beg to ridden. I bought mine on 40deg day and its been dropping since. ..I only put on about 900 miles, and it bugs me to hit her with salt so early in the game. Ive been riding my max...no wind protection at all.
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